Boris Johnson wants a 2nd bash at being PM. We wouldn't. Would we?

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Today BJ is stirring up the DUP to oppose Sunak's N Ireland proposals, whatever they may be. Surely there can't be a second chance for the idiot responsible for our current mess? There aren't enough stupid people in our country to let him in again I hope. Will he unseat Sunak?

< tumble weed passes by >

I must not comment on where the tumbleweed might be passing.
I must not, it might be rude.

Millionaire Starmer and friends of Islington no doubt are super excited about all the extra cleaners that will be available at rock bottom prices, and car valet options. They can look past the flood of crack cocaine dealing at the end of the street and industrial scales of human trafficking.

Oof. I'd keep quiet about cocaine if I was a tory supporter.

This new dawn of stammering fools might be averted yet. 18 months is a long time in politics.

True. Still a chance their polling can reach single digits.

Producing cocaine is bad and is cocaine on street corners, but consuming it with friends that you work with as one does cake on a regular basis is not a problem.

Try RTFT, I posted a link five minutes ago.

What is oof?
Do you have wind, gas? A penchant to pretending to be French on work days?

Oof - sounds affected is that really a Labour thing? You all seem to have the same tic.

Fuck off you old bruiser is more my experience tbf

You ok hun?

This has been so much fun - not, My time is precious.

I have been waiting for Labour’s detailed immigration plan to stone cold silence and deflection. Bored now of waiting 🥱🥱🥱

Here you go @Blessedwithsunshine.

Looks like a plan to me

Professor Jonathan Portes from King's College London called Starmer's rhetoric on immigration "incoherent, evidence-free nonsense".

I follow him on twitter. Since we're playing the whatboutery game let's just say he's not exactly smitten with the government's strategy either, to put it midly.

Oof. I'd keep quiet about cocaine if I was a tory supporter

9 February 2023

Ex Labour MP Jared O’Mara jailed for fraud to fund ‘extensive’ cocaine habit

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jared-omara-jailed-labour-mp-b2278867.html

Ah yes, that Corbynite. Great that Starmer's got the ship in order.

To join the Tory Party!

If you are that interested in it surely in the time since you first when on about in on this thread you could have searched on the internet for it yourself?

You may find that being knowledgeable about that which you post would mean you did not fall into quite so many obvious holes.

Oh dear. I thought you'd embarrassed yourself already but that's a step further.

So can you provide a link to Starmer supporting unrestricted immigration then?

That really does take whataboutery to new levels.

Can you explain the relevance of this MP 's reprehensible behaviour to the desirability or otherwise of Johnson returning to lead the Tory party?

Of course she can’t. Poor old Clav, she’s really struggling these days.

We aren't taking people from Afghan, there is no means for an afghan to come here legally... , plus quite a few who cross the channel are from Afghan but you want them stopped?
Ukrainians will, hopefully, go home when safe to do so... and i agree we should help anyone fleeing a war zone BUT China and specifically HK isn't a war zone, its very prosperous place and i assume you don't want the UK to open its doors to anyone from a non democratic state?

More importantly, how can you bemoan "the UK has no housing stock etc etc" but then want to see 5m people come here for no other reason because they can?

You seem to be full of contradictions or rather, whatever the Tories do on immigration is perfect.

On immigration no one is prepared to have a candid discussion about what really reduced migration means. The Conservatives haven't done anything substantial in 13 years. Labour have no real comment to make.

Both parties have failed. The means of reducing immigration exists, it's not impossible but neither party will do it for reasons they are never explicit about. Restrictions on immigration of the kind wanted by some are discriminatory. And when we had very limited immigration it was, arguably, discriminatory. Nobody is prepared to discuss this because of race, and frankly the Conservatives don't even want to change it because immigration makes many of their supporters good money.