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Boris Johnson wants a 2nd bash at being PM. We wouldn't. Would we?

648 replies

newnamethanks · 19/02/2023 10:32

Today BJ is stirring up the DUP to oppose Sunak's N Ireland proposals, whatever they may be. Surely there can't be a second chance for the idiot responsible for our current mess? There aren't enough stupid people in our country to let him in again I hope. Will he unseat Sunak?

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Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:48

Answer the question:

What is labours plan for tackling illegal trafficking?

ilovesooty · 22/02/2023 14:50

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 12:39

Do you have amnesia or have are you simply erasing the fact the last Labour government left us literally penniless with a note in the treasure box to confirm - yes do you remember 2008?

Covid has cause me our current debts not overspending!!!

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note in the treasure box 🤣

Bless.

jgw1 · 22/02/2023 14:51

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:47

I just knew you would say that.

No, opening up safe routes wouldn’t change a single thing because these people would never be granted asylum legally, all the safe routes in the world won’t change the fact that these people are not in harms way. They are looking to make as much as money as possible end of.

So we would continue to see ever more trafficking. Nothing would change with or without ‘safe routes’

Your grip on this is pitiful.

You are spoon fed this bullshit and churn it out it’s worrying.

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Do you have stats to show that there is a high proportion of the migrants who claim asylum but don't ever get asylum granted?

jgw1 · 22/02/2023 14:52

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:48

Answer the question:

What is labours plan for tackling illegal trafficking?

lol 13 years of Tories going on and on about a migrant problem and failing to create any meaningful solutions and this is what we are left with.
Brilliant.

ilovesooty · 22/02/2023 14:52

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2023 14:44

I will take that as a no, I don't have the data to back up my claims

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Unsurprising.

Blossomtoes · 22/02/2023 14:53

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:48

Answer the question:

What is labours plan for tackling illegal trafficking?

What’s the Tories’?

lazycats · 22/02/2023 14:53

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:48

Answer the question:

What is labours plan for tackling illegal trafficking?

I know responding to you in good faith is pointless, but you're backing yourself into a corner here. Voters evidently don't care about immigration nearly as much you do, but if they did they've decided the current government is totally incompetent at it.

I'm sure I don't need to tell you that saying "things are bad but would worse under labour" is a dreadful campaign strategy because it necessitates people reflecting on the current state of the country.

jgw1 · 22/02/2023 14:53

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:47

I just knew you would say that.

No, opening up safe routes wouldn’t change a single thing because these people would never be granted asylum legally, all the safe routes in the world won’t change the fact that these people are not in harms way. They are looking to make as much as money as possible end of.

So we would continue to see ever more trafficking. Nothing would change with or without ‘safe routes’

Your grip on this is pitiful.

You are spoon fed this bullshit and churn it out it’s worrying.

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Are you the pot or the kettle?

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:54

Answer the bloody question

lazycats · 22/02/2023 14:54

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:54

Answer the bloody question

you forgot to say 'please'

jgw1 · 22/02/2023 14:55

Blossomtoes · 22/02/2023 14:53

What’s the Tories’?

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Now I know the answer to this.

It is to wind the faithful up into a rabid frenzy now that they can't really do that with the EU and to deploy a Navy cutter and a fisheries proteciton vessel to sail up and down the Channel like 19th century gunboats, plus photo opportunities for Liz Truss in the back of a Chinnook flying over some sea.

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2023 14:55

I have stats

The UK offered protection, in the form of asylum, humanitarian protection, alternative forms of leave and resettlement, to 15,684 people (including dependants) in the year ending June 2022. Of these:

12,968 were granted refugee status following an asylum application (‘asylum’)
859 were granted humanitarian protection
235 were granted alternative forms of leave (such as discretionary leave, UASC leave)
1,622 were granted refugee status through resettlement schemes

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-june-2022/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Ha!

No answer because there is a Labour plan.
Open door - open cheque book.

Yup that’s going to be a vote winner.

jgw1 · 22/02/2023 14:56

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:54

Answer the bloody question

You are funny.

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Labour have no plan whatsoever

Blossomtoes · 22/02/2023 14:56

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Ha!

No answer because there is a Labour plan.
Open door - open cheque book.

Yup that’s going to be a vote winner.

It’s certainly looking like a vote winner at the moment.

lazycats · 22/02/2023 14:57

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Labour have no plan whatsoever

And yet the public trusts them more on immigration.

Again... oof. 😆

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:58

Oh that evidential polling of 2000 people in London 😂😂

ilovesooty · 22/02/2023 14:58

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:30

I am thrilled we did the right thing for those coming from Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Ukraine. We have now many millions to care for and house, therefore we simply do not have the resources or space for tens of thousands of ‘economic migrants’ arriving weekly in various ways that are here purely to free load. They are not from war torn countries. They are here to take advantage. Many are here for criminal means.

What plan does Labour have for the tens of thousands of illegal economic migrants?

As far as I can see it is zilch. Nada, despite this issue being extremely well flagged.

We have no housing stock left!!

So Labour’s open door policy is going to be an unmitigated catastrophe of a scale we have not seen before in the U.K.

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I'm still waiting for a link to Labour's open door policy

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:58

No one trusts Labour with the economy or immigration.

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2023 14:58

And some more

77%
of initial decisions made in the year ending September 2022 resulted in a grant of asylum or humanitarian protection

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/top-10-facts-about-refugees-and-people-seeking-asylum/.

Blossomtoes · 22/02/2023 14:58

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Labour have no plan whatsoever

Looks like a plan to me.

www.ein.org.uk/news/labour-leader-outlines-approach-immigration-significant-speech-cbi-confirms-commitment-points

jgw1 · 22/02/2023 14:59

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Labour have no plan whatsoever

Hang on, a short while ago there was a poster, cursedwithmoonlight I think perhaps was their name who said that Labour's plan was open door -- open cheque book.

Goodness it is confusing.

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:59

I am still waiting for Labours immigration plan….. any takers? Anyone at all?

🥱

ilovesooty · 22/02/2023 15:00

Blessedwithsunshine · 22/02/2023 14:56

Ha!

No answer because there is a Labour plan.
Open door - open cheque book.

Yup that’s going to be a vote winner.

Link to this plan?

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