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DH miserable due to family daily routine. AIBU for sticking with it?

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legworker · 15/02/2023 13:26

My lovely DH is in a grump. Our current family routine means that we (DH, me, 2x tween-teen DDs) are eating our evening meals separately three times a week. DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea." He has also commented that I am pushing him out of family life with this routine and my inflexibility.

Some facts:
DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm.

I work from home Mon-Thu 8-4. I used to work M-F 9-3 when DDs were younger to fit around school hours. When DDs were very young (and I was in a previous role) I worked three days a week term-time only.

We are both qualified professionals, albeit in different fields, and have always had around the same FTE salary, although my take-home pay has been less in the years when I was more part-time.

DDs do a lot of sport. Three times a week, the kids and I eat at around 5pm. We all leave the house around 6pm and are home again by 9pm. The kids can't get themselves to training due to where DH and I have chosen to live, so I drive them there and back. In the 2 hours or so that they are training, I do the supermarket shop (twice a week), do my own sport with a club (twice a week), and go for a run with a friend (once a week). We have had this routine for the last 12 months, since younger DD moved to the same training schedule as older DD. Prior to this, I would drop older DD, return home for about 30 minutes (when I would see DH if he was home), drop younger DD and then do the supermarket shop (twice a week)/run with a friend (once a week) before returning home with both kids at 9pm.

DH plays one of his sports in a club on one of our 5pm tea evenings. His training session runs from 7-9pm and he arrives home after us that night. He sometimes has matches (home and away) on other nights of the week too, but not that frequently.

We have an old, large house that is hard to get/keep warm.

Some more objective viewpoints:
I do 99.99% of the food shopping, preparation of evening meals and clearing up. I also generally make breakfast (as we have the kind of breakfasts where it is more efficient to do it once for everyone, rather than a 'help yourself to cereal and toast' kind of breakfast) and am usually up 30 mins-1h before DH to fit in household chores before work.

I have always cooked meals for all the family and we have always tried to eat together. When the kids were very little, we would have tea relatively late (after 6pm ish) compared to friends so that we could all eat together. The other four days of the week, we eat later than 5pm so that we can all eat together as a family. On the three days of the week when DDs and I leave at 6pm, I leave DH's meal in the pan(s) to warm up, or he might have to quickly cook something slightly different to go with what has already been made due to dietary requirements/preferences across the family (e.g. he might have to cook some gluten-free noodles to add to the stir-fried meat and veg that we have already made, and eaten our share of, with wheat noodles). As time is tight, I don't generally have time to ensure every kitchen item is washed and put away before leaving the house at 6pm, but I do try to ensure that the kitchen is tidy enough to be functional. Some less-often used items that don't go through the dishwasher may sit next to the kitchen sink for a few days before being washed up by hand. Dishwasher is put on at least daily by me.

I do most of the other general housework (cleaning, laundry, putting bins out, looking after the animals) and life admin (utilities etc, school admin, sport admin for kids).

DH is very handy practically and does a lot of things that are outside my skill set. He does a lot of car, bike and house maintenance/improvements that most people would pay for. He mows the (very large) lawn in the warmer months, washes the cars and, periodically, the outsides of the windows. He does most of the heavy gardening. He does occasionally run the hoover round or wash up.

DDs make their own packed lunches, sort their own food for lunch if they are at home (weekend, holidays), get themselves to school and back, and keep their own bedrooms clean(ish!). They are both mature and independent (they keep on top of homework, take the right things to school on the right days, get their kit together for training and events and sort it out afterwards, put their dirty laundry in their laundry bin and collect and put away their clean laundry). On a quiet day at home, they may help with jobs around the house.

So, AIBU for making tea at 5pm three nights a week to accommodate our DDs' hobbies, and then using their training time to do the supermarket shop and do my own exercise?

And, more kindly, what do you think we (individually or as a family) could change to make my DH less miserable?

(Sporadic poster here; have namechanged for this.)

OP posts:
OffYouPopNow · 15/02/2023 13:30

TLDR but

the easy solution would be to just plate him up a portion of whatever meal you have made that he can microwave when he gets in.

Mumoftwoinprimary · 15/02/2023 13:35

He could make an effort and get home at 5:10pm and eat with the rest of you.

Or he could stop being a bit of a baby and suck it up!

SpookyBlackCat · 15/02/2023 13:36

I think he’s being a bit silly. Of course he can make dinner. He is perfectly capable of doing the washing up. It just seems he wants this 50s housewife thing where he walks in the door and is greeted by his adoring wife and kids.

JJJSchmidt · 15/02/2023 13:37

I do think it sounds a bit sad for him, i wouldn't like a family routine as you have described, it's not 'wrong' or 'unreasonable' as much as it just wouldn't suit me. I think you need to talk to each other about the things that could change as a family to make aure that everyone's needs are met.

Reugny · 15/02/2023 13:38

Mumoftwoinprimary · 15/02/2023 13:35

He could make an effort and get home at 5:10pm and eat with the rest of you.

Or he could stop being a bit of a baby and suck it up!

This.

He can also join you with dropping the kids off at their training session, join you doing the food shop, and then going to the gym while you do your sport or finding somewhere to read/watch something on a phone/tablet.

He needs to realise his children are growing up and want to do their own stuff. Very soon they will move out.

He also needs to realise like you, he has his own hobbies.

Sucessinthenewyear · 15/02/2023 13:38

I think it’s his job to come up with a solution.

CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 15/02/2023 13:38

What does he suggest? You coming home during DDs hobby time would still mean he'd miss out family time as DDs wouldn't be there and he'd still arrive home when you were out... You work too so you're not his maid to make his food anyway! You coming back just means you have no time for everything else that needs to get done!

If he's bothered and wants to eat with you is there any reason why he can't go in to work early on those days so he can finish early?

bridgetreilly · 15/02/2023 13:38

This is how family life is sometimes. It won’t be like this forever, but he has to suck it up now. Maybe he could focus on making a warm, welcoming, clean and tidy house for you and the children to come home to, instead of sitting around feeling sorry for himself.

StanleyBriggs · 15/02/2023 13:40

We have this one night a week. My husband says thank you to me for cooking (because he only has to heat stuff up) and he does all the washing up. On days I manage to do most of the washing up first, I get thanked for doing so. Leaving washing up does not constitute the house being dirty here.

You could get a better thermostat system so the house is warm for him to come home to.

I wonder if your husband does so little of the cooking and washing up that he has stopped appreciating the work involved.

puppacup · 15/02/2023 13:40

I do think it sounds a bit sad for him, i wouldn't like a family routine as you have described, it's not 'wrong' or 'unreasonable' as much as it just wouldn't suit me

Agree.

Cosyblankets · 15/02/2023 13:41

Could he come and meet you while the kids are doing whatever they're doing?
Can you go home and he picks them up instead of you staying there?
Can he finish work early even one day a week and you all go together? Or you and him go out for dinner while the kids are out?

Maray1967 · 15/02/2023 13:42

SpookyBlackCat · 15/02/2023 13:36

I think he’s being a bit silly. Of course he can make dinner. He is perfectly capable of doing the washing up. It just seems he wants this 50s housewife thing where he walks in the door and is greeted by his adoring wife and kids.

Exactly. Mine does most of the cooking now but even when I did it he had no problem cooking for himself later in and didn’t expect the kitchen to be all tidied up when we’d dashed out.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 15/02/2023 13:42

He needs to make a helpful suggestion as to how everything might work!

Ideally one that involves him playing more of a part in family life rather than moaning that no one is there to give him a hero’s welcome

Or is the solution to move somewhere nearer to hobbies - and friends, school etc - for DC that isn’t quite as cold?

Paq · 15/02/2023 13:44

Sounds like he needs to get home for 5.10, take turns to ferry the kids around and stop whining.

It's February, the evenings are getting lighter, maybe he'll cheer up a bit when winter's behind us.

honeylulu · 15/02/2023 13:44

Sounds like he's getting a sweet deal to me. Most of what he does around the house is occasional stuff whereas your chores are daily and you work FT/bring in a salary.

I wonder if his gripe is really that the house is lonely in the weekday evenings. I'd love the house to myself a couple of evenings a week but most nights I might get a bit lonely and sorry for myself. But what's the alternative? Your kids give up the activities they love? That wouldn't be fair.

Has he always been grumpy or is it more recent? My husband got quite grumpy in his late 40s and I think that's quite common. We usually tease him out of it if he's been grumping too long!

Takenoprisoner · 15/02/2023 13:44

JJJSchmidt · 15/02/2023 13:37

I do think it sounds a bit sad for him, i wouldn't like a family routine as you have described, it's not 'wrong' or 'unreasonable' as much as it just wouldn't suit me. I think you need to talk to each other about the things that could change as a family to make aure that everyone's needs are met.

I agree with this. I think he just wants more family time, nothing to do with wanting a 1950s housewife.

However the division of labour at home seems unequal. He needs to do his fair share.

Ameadowwalk · 15/02/2023 13:48

Yes, I think there are two separate issues

  1. he does not feel involved in DC sports and activities and his own activities don’t fill the spare time he has when you are not there
  2. The division of chores is unequal.

you could look to split the day to day chores more equally now you are working FT, and also see if he can leave the office a bit earlier to be involved in the activities. Four days a week on his own in the evening is a bit miserable, and doing most of the daily chores is unfair, but they are not measuring like for like. So there are two separate issues to address which will help both of you.

latetothefisting · 15/02/2023 13:48

OffYouPopNow · 15/02/2023 13:30

TLDR but

the easy solution would be to just plate him up a portion of whatever meal you have made that he can microwave when he gets in.

Why bother commenting if you couldn't be arsed to read? Op does do this! He's just sad face because he has to eat it all by himself!

Op honestly he sounds a bit pathetic. It sounds like it's his fault that he doesn't seen you all or eat together before he gets home (wtf is he doing between 5 and 6 every night) and people who live alone come home to an empty house every single day, rather than to a house that's only quiet for about 3 hours max and where someone has already made tea for them!

I can't see the point of you making suggestions because there's nothing you're doing wrong in the first place other than doing too much of the household chores. You could stress yourself out suggesting stuff only for him to disagree.

If he's the one who is unhappy it's up to him to make suggestions, whether that's him making the effort to come home earlier those days so HE can take the girls to their activity or pick them up, or him picking up the shop on his way home or organising am online delivery, so you can come home and spend time together, or if its not feasible he can meet you there and the 2 of you spend some time together.

Perhaps if the "cold house" thing is a huge issue (although, really ffs!) he can look at automated systems so he can turn the heating on remotely for when he leaves work so it will be warmer when he gets home.

aloris · 15/02/2023 13:48

He works until 5 pm and has a 10 min commute. If he wanted to, he could be home by 5:30 to hang out with you all until 6 pm.

billy1966 · 15/02/2023 13:49

Your life sounds very busy OP.

Has he anything practical to offer to help other than grumpiness?

He has a LOT of free time and you sound run ragged......we have a lot of evening sports here too.

Botw1 · 15/02/2023 13:49

Why are you going shopping twice a week?

Why is your dh incapable of putting the heating on/doing dishes /doing his own dinner.

Why is he not home until 6?

Tell him to stop being a big baby and stop whining

He also needs to do more of his share og housework /cooking/taking kids to clubs

GiltEdges · 15/02/2023 13:49

Lots of unnecessary info there. But in terms of your actual question, if your DH is meant to finish work at 5 and could be home 10 minutes later, he’ll just have to do that if he wants to eat dinner with you all. If not, then he can suck it up.

IsThisNameTaken · 15/02/2023 13:52

Mumoftwoinprimary · 15/02/2023 13:35

He could make an effort and get home at 5:10pm and eat with the rest of you.

Or he could stop being a bit of a baby and suck it up!

Agree with this entirely. Plus, how can the house be 'cold'? You've only left with the DCs at 6pm and he gets home soon after 6 - surely you have it warm whilst you're there and it can't get stone cold in a few minutes?

whatwasIgoingtosay · 15/02/2023 13:53

Set the central heating timer to come on an hour before he gets home, so that the house is warm - and maybe have a couple of lights on timers? Get a dishwasher so there are no dirty dishes in the sink. Or get a cleaner. This does have a rather 1950s vibe, you know.

ShowsLikeThese · 15/02/2023 13:53

Why are you doing everything? And why is he so late home if he finishes at 5? The balance is very off in what you've described.

He should get home on time to take DC to activities at least once a week. He finishes at 5 and you don't leave til 6? Why isn't he doing that? He can take the food you've kindly prepared with him, or get home a few mins earlier and eat with you.
You can still go out and do the shopping, running, etc, but he can take charge of the dc.

For context, I regularly get home and leave again 5 mins later. Or sometimes I don't even get out of the car - dc run out of the house and we go. My DH does the same. It's annoying, but these are the choices we made about what activities out dc take part in. It's all so short term in the big scheme of things, and will balance out again next term or next year.

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