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DH miserable due to family daily routine. AIBU for sticking with it?

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legworker · 15/02/2023 13:26

My lovely DH is in a grump. Our current family routine means that we (DH, me, 2x tween-teen DDs) are eating our evening meals separately three times a week. DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea." He has also commented that I am pushing him out of family life with this routine and my inflexibility.

Some facts:
DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm.

I work from home Mon-Thu 8-4. I used to work M-F 9-3 when DDs were younger to fit around school hours. When DDs were very young (and I was in a previous role) I worked three days a week term-time only.

We are both qualified professionals, albeit in different fields, and have always had around the same FTE salary, although my take-home pay has been less in the years when I was more part-time.

DDs do a lot of sport. Three times a week, the kids and I eat at around 5pm. We all leave the house around 6pm and are home again by 9pm. The kids can't get themselves to training due to where DH and I have chosen to live, so I drive them there and back. In the 2 hours or so that they are training, I do the supermarket shop (twice a week), do my own sport with a club (twice a week), and go for a run with a friend (once a week). We have had this routine for the last 12 months, since younger DD moved to the same training schedule as older DD. Prior to this, I would drop older DD, return home for about 30 minutes (when I would see DH if he was home), drop younger DD and then do the supermarket shop (twice a week)/run with a friend (once a week) before returning home with both kids at 9pm.

DH plays one of his sports in a club on one of our 5pm tea evenings. His training session runs from 7-9pm and he arrives home after us that night. He sometimes has matches (home and away) on other nights of the week too, but not that frequently.

We have an old, large house that is hard to get/keep warm.

Some more objective viewpoints:
I do 99.99% of the food shopping, preparation of evening meals and clearing up. I also generally make breakfast (as we have the kind of breakfasts where it is more efficient to do it once for everyone, rather than a 'help yourself to cereal and toast' kind of breakfast) and am usually up 30 mins-1h before DH to fit in household chores before work.

I have always cooked meals for all the family and we have always tried to eat together. When the kids were very little, we would have tea relatively late (after 6pm ish) compared to friends so that we could all eat together. The other four days of the week, we eat later than 5pm so that we can all eat together as a family. On the three days of the week when DDs and I leave at 6pm, I leave DH's meal in the pan(s) to warm up, or he might have to quickly cook something slightly different to go with what has already been made due to dietary requirements/preferences across the family (e.g. he might have to cook some gluten-free noodles to add to the stir-fried meat and veg that we have already made, and eaten our share of, with wheat noodles). As time is tight, I don't generally have time to ensure every kitchen item is washed and put away before leaving the house at 6pm, but I do try to ensure that the kitchen is tidy enough to be functional. Some less-often used items that don't go through the dishwasher may sit next to the kitchen sink for a few days before being washed up by hand. Dishwasher is put on at least daily by me.

I do most of the other general housework (cleaning, laundry, putting bins out, looking after the animals) and life admin (utilities etc, school admin, sport admin for kids).

DH is very handy practically and does a lot of things that are outside my skill set. He does a lot of car, bike and house maintenance/improvements that most people would pay for. He mows the (very large) lawn in the warmer months, washes the cars and, periodically, the outsides of the windows. He does most of the heavy gardening. He does occasionally run the hoover round or wash up.

DDs make their own packed lunches, sort their own food for lunch if they are at home (weekend, holidays), get themselves to school and back, and keep their own bedrooms clean(ish!). They are both mature and independent (they keep on top of homework, take the right things to school on the right days, get their kit together for training and events and sort it out afterwards, put their dirty laundry in their laundry bin and collect and put away their clean laundry). On a quiet day at home, they may help with jobs around the house.

So, AIBU for making tea at 5pm three nights a week to accommodate our DDs' hobbies, and then using their training time to do the supermarket shop and do my own exercise?

And, more kindly, what do you think we (individually or as a family) could change to make my DH less miserable?

(Sporadic poster here; have namechanged for this.)

OP posts:
OriginalUsername2 · 15/02/2023 15:07

Sorry but my eyes rolled so hard at his plight. “I get home and you haven’t made it perfect for me!” is what that translates to.

You and your girls are busy bees!

WaddleAway · 15/02/2023 15:08

outdooryone · 15/02/2023 15:05

There is an element of DH finding it tough which he needs to get over. That is family life.

However, there is a shared element here. So many of your choices - having a family, jobs, house, significant sporting commitments etc are exactly that - choices. You can choose to alter some, to take a different direction. (No, I don't mean selling a child.... ;-) )

I for years prioritised quality of family life over a significant salary or two. I moved to a cheaper house and a very different lifestyle. My kids don't remember a late night violin practice or trampoline practice after a full day at school (and did not enjoy it) - but they remember the mountains we climbed together at the weekend, the windswept beaches we visited, the quality time with wider family and friends.

So I do have some sympathy here - but maybe this is based out of a different set of priorities in life.

Where has the OP said they don’t spend weekends together doing family things? They may even gasps visit windswept beaches together.

JamToasties · 15/02/2023 15:08

Agree with @Botw1

SamSmithsOutfit · 15/02/2023 15:08

Doliveira · 15/02/2023 14:00

Why does it take him an hour to get home from work?

apart from that, my suggestion is to do your food shopping online and your husband come to where you drop dds off, meet you in the pub for a glass of wine and a chat in the saved time.

The best suggestion so far!

ForestofD · 15/02/2023 15:09

Slow cooker. He can prep it in the morning and it will be ready when he walks in. Mine love it when the slow cooker is out because the door opens and it smells of nice food. Easy to hold at temp as well.

All the family can have the same meal, just at different times.

Dixiechickonhols · 15/02/2023 15:10

Crumpleton · 15/02/2023 15:01

He could indeed do the after school activities but while OP is home pot washing she'll be missing out on doing her evening meet ups/sports.

I think one night she shops. Instead stay home (do online shop) and have a relaxing evening. 5 mins pot washing out of 3 hours peace and quiet. It’s hard work being out 6-9 3 nights a week, him doing 1 out of 3 nights would mean op could still do hobby and see friend.

Whattodonut · 15/02/2023 15:11

I don't know that I am adding much here but clearly it is sad he's alone every night. We also sacrificed evenings to clubs so that we could keep weekend free. But we share the taxi duties.

So either he comes home earlier to eat with you all some/every evening before doing any activities
Or takes some of the share of parent-taxi. Perhaps on the supermarket shopping days?

I would also suggest (because it worked for us) writing a list of all the chores that are done and putting names by each. Just so he sees how much you do. He could use his turn at home to do some washing up (as you cooked!)

WhereYouLeftIt · 15/02/2023 15:14

"DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm."
Why isn't he home at 5:10 and able to eat with you all?

He sounds a complete pain in the arse.

ISaidDontLickTheBin · 15/02/2023 15:14

SpookyBlackCat · 15/02/2023 13:36

I think he’s being a bit silly. Of course he can make dinner. He is perfectly capable of doing the washing up. It just seems he wants this 50s housewife thing where he walks in the door and is greeted by his adoring wife and kids.

I've read the OP through several times and I keep coming to this conclusion too tbh.

Ohtheyresickagain · 15/02/2023 15:16

What’s he doing for an hour every day after work finishes @legworker ?

Crumpleton · 15/02/2023 15:17

Not to deviate from this post but genuinely wanting to know...
As I now WFH...

When I wasn't WFH my hours were 8-5 I never once left at 5 on the dot, not nessassarily work related hold back but general goodnight chit chat to colleagues, would never have been able to "just leave earlier" but never walked out at 5....does every one now leave their work 'on the dot'?

Dixiechickonhols · 15/02/2023 15:19

If he’s generally ok it sounds like he’s trying to say something and it’s not coming out properly.
I’d use one if the evenings for a drink and chat.
Maybe he is feeling left out (is it a female centric hobby or one 3 of you share) or is he just experiencing sadness at kids growing up and things changing eg in past 2 little girls were hello daddy, tea eaten together. Often hobbies go later as they get older whereas he perhaps missed all that if they went 4-5 when they were young.

Brefugee · 15/02/2023 15:20

When I wasn't WFH my hours were 8-5 I never once left at 5 on the dot, not nessassarily work related hold back but general goodnight chit chat to colleagues, would never have been able to "just leave earlier" but never walked out at 5....does every one now leave their work 'on the dot'?

did you whine that you got home to an empty house?

Andsoforth · 15/02/2023 15:20

What is he actually suggesting?

Is there any flexibility in his work that might allow him to come home earlier, pitch in with dinner and take the dc to activities, and then wfh for a couple of hours in the evening?

I’m not a huge fan of this season of life either but I’d much rather do your DH’s version of it than yours.

Botw1 · 15/02/2023 15:21

He's not alone every night!!

Why do people keep saying aww poor baby all alone, every night with no mummy to look after him!

At most he's alone 2 nights out of 7. He chooses to play sport on the 3rd and who actually gives a fuck a grown man has to be alone 2 nights a week?

Especially as it seems to be his choice?! He could make sure he is home in time to take the kids to their clubs. But he doesn't

Dixiechickonhols · 15/02/2023 15:21

Brefugee · 15/02/2023 15:20

When I wasn't WFH my hours were 8-5 I never once left at 5 on the dot, not nessassarily work related hold back but general goodnight chit chat to colleagues, would never have been able to "just leave earlier" but never walked out at 5....does every one now leave their work 'on the dot'?

did you whine that you got home to an empty house?

It depends on culture of workplace and commitments lots of workers need to leave bang on time for nursery or after school club pick up.

RightOnTheEdge · 15/02/2023 15:22

He sounds like a big baby! A grown man who can't be on his own for a few hours two nights a week? Boo hoo! Hmm

Has he actually offered up any solutions OP or just mope around being sad?
What is actually lovely about him? He's a grump who does nothing daily around the house to help you, leaves all the shopping up to you and doesn't share running your daughters to their hobbies but then moans and complains that everything is not perfect for him.

Itspoonotpoop · 15/02/2023 15:25

He sounds lonely
And you need a dishwasher

SunThroughTheCloudsAt6am · 15/02/2023 15:25

The obvious solution is that he gets out of work on time a couple of days a week and joins you doing the supermarket shop/does his own thing while you have your run/also goes to the gym.

It's less than half the week, and I understand he might feel a bit lonely, but he's one person, you and the kids are 3 people, and he needs to work with the majority here.

Plus, he's got a sweet deal - you're doing everything. How about he take on one of the sport drop-offs/supermarket shops and you have an evening in the cold dark house without them - I bet you'd quite appreciate it actually!

Brefugee · 15/02/2023 15:25

When i worked full time an hour from home and i knew that i needed to be back on x day because of clubs, then i told everyone i was leaving because of a prior commitment. Not every day. Or if i need to be spot on time i came in early, worked through lunch and left. (most days i worked 10 hours so i had to be careful)

When the managers got on my case about it, i worked exactly my hours for a month. No deviation. Lots of teeth gritting (mine) lots of whinging (managers) and lots of me saying "well, i work 16 extra hours a week, get a temp, get a part-timer whatever. And then. it is entirely possible in most 8-5 jobs to leave at least once a week bang on time.

Sartre · 15/02/2023 15:26

This was a very long winded tale. If he finishes work at 5pm and works 10 mins away, he should endeavour to get home on time so he can eat with you all before you leave. When you are out he should find something useful to do with himself or he should take DD’s himself and do the food shop so you can chill out.

TheTeenageYears · 15/02/2023 15:26

I'd take a guess that if you asked him he'd say he feels sidelined when he's probably done that all by himself. There's nothing stopping him taking the DC to their sports at least one night a week - he might feel more involved that way.

He takes care of all the things which don't need to be done at specific times and you take care of the things which on the whole need to be done at very specific times so on the surface it might seem like it plays to each of your strengths and is reasonably equal but the reality is it isn't.

Has he come up with any solutions? Your routine is rigid but it needs to be, it's the only way to keep all the plates spinning and DH just doesn't get it.

latetothefisting · 15/02/2023 15:27

Crumpleton · 15/02/2023 15:17

Not to deviate from this post but genuinely wanting to know...
As I now WFH...

When I wasn't WFH my hours were 8-5 I never once left at 5 on the dot, not nessassarily work related hold back but general goodnight chit chat to colleagues, would never have been able to "just leave earlier" but never walked out at 5....does every one now leave their work 'on the dot'?

Tbh most people I know have a lot of flexibility with their hours, but even with someone who does have set working times I imagine most people fall somewhere in the spectrum between "leave at 5 on the dot" and "work (or spend time faffing around chatting unpaid) for an extra hour every single night of the week" which is what OPs dh apparently does....

Shelby2010 · 15/02/2023 15:28

Agree with other posters, DH should get home earlier & take kids to their activities. He could also get up earlier in the morning & spend more time with you & do some of the chores.

Or he could stop moaning & think himself lucky that he’s not being asked to actually pull his weight.

Nevermind31 · 15/02/2023 15:28

What is his suggestion?
kids stopping their hobby so that DH does not need to come home straight after work?
him coming home at 5.10 and taking the kids?
him giving up some hobbies so he can participate in family time at 5.10?