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DH miserable due to family daily routine. AIBU for sticking with it?

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legworker · 15/02/2023 13:26

My lovely DH is in a grump. Our current family routine means that we (DH, me, 2x tween-teen DDs) are eating our evening meals separately three times a week. DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea." He has also commented that I am pushing him out of family life with this routine and my inflexibility.

Some facts:
DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm.

I work from home Mon-Thu 8-4. I used to work M-F 9-3 when DDs were younger to fit around school hours. When DDs were very young (and I was in a previous role) I worked three days a week term-time only.

We are both qualified professionals, albeit in different fields, and have always had around the same FTE salary, although my take-home pay has been less in the years when I was more part-time.

DDs do a lot of sport. Three times a week, the kids and I eat at around 5pm. We all leave the house around 6pm and are home again by 9pm. The kids can't get themselves to training due to where DH and I have chosen to live, so I drive them there and back. In the 2 hours or so that they are training, I do the supermarket shop (twice a week), do my own sport with a club (twice a week), and go for a run with a friend (once a week). We have had this routine for the last 12 months, since younger DD moved to the same training schedule as older DD. Prior to this, I would drop older DD, return home for about 30 minutes (when I would see DH if he was home), drop younger DD and then do the supermarket shop (twice a week)/run with a friend (once a week) before returning home with both kids at 9pm.

DH plays one of his sports in a club on one of our 5pm tea evenings. His training session runs from 7-9pm and he arrives home after us that night. He sometimes has matches (home and away) on other nights of the week too, but not that frequently.

We have an old, large house that is hard to get/keep warm.

Some more objective viewpoints:
I do 99.99% of the food shopping, preparation of evening meals and clearing up. I also generally make breakfast (as we have the kind of breakfasts where it is more efficient to do it once for everyone, rather than a 'help yourself to cereal and toast' kind of breakfast) and am usually up 30 mins-1h before DH to fit in household chores before work.

I have always cooked meals for all the family and we have always tried to eat together. When the kids were very little, we would have tea relatively late (after 6pm ish) compared to friends so that we could all eat together. The other four days of the week, we eat later than 5pm so that we can all eat together as a family. On the three days of the week when DDs and I leave at 6pm, I leave DH's meal in the pan(s) to warm up, or he might have to quickly cook something slightly different to go with what has already been made due to dietary requirements/preferences across the family (e.g. he might have to cook some gluten-free noodles to add to the stir-fried meat and veg that we have already made, and eaten our share of, with wheat noodles). As time is tight, I don't generally have time to ensure every kitchen item is washed and put away before leaving the house at 6pm, but I do try to ensure that the kitchen is tidy enough to be functional. Some less-often used items that don't go through the dishwasher may sit next to the kitchen sink for a few days before being washed up by hand. Dishwasher is put on at least daily by me.

I do most of the other general housework (cleaning, laundry, putting bins out, looking after the animals) and life admin (utilities etc, school admin, sport admin for kids).

DH is very handy practically and does a lot of things that are outside my skill set. He does a lot of car, bike and house maintenance/improvements that most people would pay for. He mows the (very large) lawn in the warmer months, washes the cars and, periodically, the outsides of the windows. He does most of the heavy gardening. He does occasionally run the hoover round or wash up.

DDs make their own packed lunches, sort their own food for lunch if they are at home (weekend, holidays), get themselves to school and back, and keep their own bedrooms clean(ish!). They are both mature and independent (they keep on top of homework, take the right things to school on the right days, get their kit together for training and events and sort it out afterwards, put their dirty laundry in their laundry bin and collect and put away their clean laundry). On a quiet day at home, they may help with jobs around the house.

So, AIBU for making tea at 5pm three nights a week to accommodate our DDs' hobbies, and then using their training time to do the supermarket shop and do my own exercise?

And, more kindly, what do you think we (individually or as a family) could change to make my DH less miserable?

(Sporadic poster here; have namechanged for this.)

OP posts:
SleepingStandingUp · 15/02/2023 13:54

JJJSchmidt · 15/02/2023 13:37

I do think it sounds a bit sad for him, i wouldn't like a family routine as you have described, it's not 'wrong' or 'unreasonable' as much as it just wouldn't suit me. I think you need to talk to each other about the things that could change as a family to make aure that everyone's needs are met.

Well he could come home from work straight away, or he can force the girls to cancel their sports. Those are the choices really.

YolayCaprese · 15/02/2023 13:54

Tbh if I got home to a cooked dinner, empty house and the TV to myself three nights a week I'd be fucking rejoicing. Sounds like he could "join in" a heck of a lot more with the ferrying and shopping rather than staying at work or home. That's how it's resolved, he gets home earlier or meets you at the club/shops.

Orangeis · 15/02/2023 13:55

Fuck that, he sounds like an eejit.
Why can't he come home on time and do some of the ferrying, does he not like his children and want to see them?

GodisaBC · 15/02/2023 13:55

Wow your lovely dh sounds selfish, self centred and happy to let you do the lions share of all the work.
Diddums he doesn’t like the kitchen untidy, he can tidy it then.
The division of jobs sounds very unfair, you seem to have organised the activities well and fit a lot in on this evenings.
Your putting your dc first, he should give it a go.

Howyiz · 15/02/2023 13:56

Why are you doing all the running around and house work?
He then complains that he isn't being prioritized while you do everything?

Tell him to grow the fuck up! Maybe he could do the shopping after work one of the days after work to free up an evening for you to spend more time together.
Maybe he could put dinner in a slow cooker and come he straight after work so that you could all sit down and eat.
Maybe he could come he on time so that he could take his kids to their sport and spend time with them that way?

Testina · 15/02/2023 13:56

“washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea”

Read a bit further to see that you both work full time, you do most of everything, and you’re out with the kids a lot in the evening.

Didn’t finish reading though as my eyes were rolling too hard at the quote. What a cock 🙄

phoenixrosehere · 15/02/2023 13:57

honeylulu · 15/02/2023 13:44

Sounds like he's getting a sweet deal to me. Most of what he does around the house is occasional stuff whereas your chores are daily and you work FT/bring in a salary.

I wonder if his gripe is really that the house is lonely in the weekday evenings. I'd love the house to myself a couple of evenings a week but most nights I might get a bit lonely and sorry for myself. But what's the alternative? Your kids give up the activities they love? That wouldn't be fair.

Has he always been grumpy or is it more recent? My husband got quite grumpy in his late 40s and I think that's quite common. We usually tease him out of it if he's been grumping too long!

Sounds like he's getting a sweet deal to me. Most of what he does around the house is occasional stuff whereas your chores are daily and you work FT/bring in a salary.

I thought the same. What does he do other than the once a week, month chores, his hobby, and working? He could also help by tidying some things away himself knowing that OP is playing taxi to both children and doing other chores in between and cooking.

What is he doing that it takes him over an hour to get home if they are a 10 min drive away if his hobby is once a week and the matches during the week are occasional (if I’ve understood that part correctly)?

safetyfreak · 15/02/2023 13:57

Your family life would be a bit too much for me.

I like being at home with my family, including my husband most nights.

Testina · 15/02/2023 13:58

And do I just not know what “lovely” means?
So many threads on MN when people use “lovely” where I’d use “selfish arsehole” 🧐

Tinkerbyebye · 15/02/2023 13:58

Just tell him to grow up. Whingy babies are not attractive

if washing up needs doing, then he can do it, as an adult he can take care of himself

Reugny · 15/02/2023 13:58

Orangeis · 15/02/2023 13:55

Fuck that, he sounds like an eejit.
Why can't he come home on time and do some of the ferrying, does he not like his children and want to see them?

😂

BellaJuno · 15/02/2023 13:59

Sucessinthenewyear · 15/02/2023 13:38

I think it’s his job to come up with a solution.

Sorry, have to confess I didn’t read all the detail! But essentially this, what is he suggesting could be changed to make it more agreeable to him?

latetothefisting · 15/02/2023 13:59

Tbh some of this has shades of my friend who was in a controlling relationship whose husband HATED her doing anything without him. On the rare occasions she went out she'd come back and ask what he'd made himself for tea and he'd invariably put on a hard done by, pathetic voice and say "oh I couldn't find anything/couldn't be bothered to cook just for me so I just had a banana".

She's left him now and "just had a banana" has become a an in joke for being a bit pathetic but it was manipulative, as is your dh trying to make you feel sorry for him because you aren't home every single day to bring him his slippers and pipe and ask about his day.

FurAndFeathers · 15/02/2023 14:00

Why doesn’t he get home for 5.39 and contribute to family life?

Doliveira · 15/02/2023 14:00

Why does it take him an hour to get home from work?

apart from that, my suggestion is to do your food shopping online and your husband come to where you drop dds off, meet you in the pub for a glass of wine and a chat in the saved time.

gamerchick · 15/02/2023 14:01

I agree with PP. He needs to come straight home from work and pitch in. Why do you have to do all the graft?

He's capable of washing the sodden dishes himself instead of stomping around forlornly you're not there to greet him with his tea ready.

latetothefisting · 15/02/2023 14:01

if he's moaning about the house being cold suggest he runs the hoover over while youre out to warm himself up!

slithytoveisascientist · 15/02/2023 14:03

It does sound like the simplest solution is him to change his hours and come home
Then maybe you can do some of the after school stuff together / he can do some

Has he said what solution he would like

slithytoveisascientist · 15/02/2023 14:04

Also you are doing way too much, time after work doing family tasks should be shared

ThatPaperBoi · 15/02/2023 14:05

Can he not finish at 4.45 and be home for dinner at 5 a couple times a week?

If he finishes at 5 and is 10 mins away why does it take him until 6 to get home?

Codlingmoths · 15/02/2023 14:05

He could step into my husbands shoes for a week and come home and sweep you off your feet with flowers and a hotel for facilitating everything about family life? When we are both working my Dh shops, cooks, picks up children , makes school lunches, takes Dc to sport.

he could give up his hobbies to have more family time and maybe actually contribute rather than mowing the lawn? He could come home and take a dc to sport? And do the shopping while they are there? And you could take up a hobby once you are in a relationship with a functioning contributing partner?

I can’t get over that he is sulking about this. Why don’t you do him a deal- every second week he does 70% of what you do- everything from Tuesday to Thursday that can be done from 5:10pm onwards, and you will be happier and lighter and freer and have the space to sulk about not having someone put your slippers on for you and polish your silver.

Buenosfairies211 · 15/02/2023 14:06

Dance mum here. When DC do sport then the evening schedule has to work around that. Surely your DH is enough of a grown up to understand that? It doesn't last forever. I don't understand however why you are doing all the food shopping, cooking, most of the cleaning, all the school admin and the ferrying to and from extra curricular activities? Why isn't your DH getting home in time to drive the DC to their sport sessions at 6 pm some of the time?

I would show your dh this thread op. I would also suggest that he is pushing himself out of family life by not getting stuck in.

Codlingmoths · 15/02/2023 14:07

slithytoveisascientist · 15/02/2023 14:03

It does sound like the simplest solution is him to change his hours and come home
Then maybe you can do some of the after school stuff together / he can do some

Has he said what solution he would like

He doesn’t even need to change his hours! He just needs to prioritise his family like a normal parent and come home after work and pitch in instead of chucking the sads that his wife while doing everything at home doesn’t also have the capacity to gently spin the planet around him.

WaddleAway · 15/02/2023 14:08

I think you’re very kind, as at least one of those nights I would expect my DH to be home in time to ferry the children to their activity while I had a quiet night at home.

WaddleAway · 15/02/2023 14:09

safetyfreak · 15/02/2023 13:57

Your family life would be a bit too much for me.

I like being at home with my family, including my husband most nights.

Would you stop your children pursuing their hobby then?

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