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DH miserable due to family daily routine. AIBU for sticking with it?

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legworker · 15/02/2023 13:26

My lovely DH is in a grump. Our current family routine means that we (DH, me, 2x tween-teen DDs) are eating our evening meals separately three times a week. DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea." He has also commented that I am pushing him out of family life with this routine and my inflexibility.

Some facts:
DH works M-F 9-5 office job based a ten minute drive away. However he is usually not home until after 6pm.

I work from home Mon-Thu 8-4. I used to work M-F 9-3 when DDs were younger to fit around school hours. When DDs were very young (and I was in a previous role) I worked three days a week term-time only.

We are both qualified professionals, albeit in different fields, and have always had around the same FTE salary, although my take-home pay has been less in the years when I was more part-time.

DDs do a lot of sport. Three times a week, the kids and I eat at around 5pm. We all leave the house around 6pm and are home again by 9pm. The kids can't get themselves to training due to where DH and I have chosen to live, so I drive them there and back. In the 2 hours or so that they are training, I do the supermarket shop (twice a week), do my own sport with a club (twice a week), and go for a run with a friend (once a week). We have had this routine for the last 12 months, since younger DD moved to the same training schedule as older DD. Prior to this, I would drop older DD, return home for about 30 minutes (when I would see DH if he was home), drop younger DD and then do the supermarket shop (twice a week)/run with a friend (once a week) before returning home with both kids at 9pm.

DH plays one of his sports in a club on one of our 5pm tea evenings. His training session runs from 7-9pm and he arrives home after us that night. He sometimes has matches (home and away) on other nights of the week too, but not that frequently.

We have an old, large house that is hard to get/keep warm.

Some more objective viewpoints:
I do 99.99% of the food shopping, preparation of evening meals and clearing up. I also generally make breakfast (as we have the kind of breakfasts where it is more efficient to do it once for everyone, rather than a 'help yourself to cereal and toast' kind of breakfast) and am usually up 30 mins-1h before DH to fit in household chores before work.

I have always cooked meals for all the family and we have always tried to eat together. When the kids were very little, we would have tea relatively late (after 6pm ish) compared to friends so that we could all eat together. The other four days of the week, we eat later than 5pm so that we can all eat together as a family. On the three days of the week when DDs and I leave at 6pm, I leave DH's meal in the pan(s) to warm up, or he might have to quickly cook something slightly different to go with what has already been made due to dietary requirements/preferences across the family (e.g. he might have to cook some gluten-free noodles to add to the stir-fried meat and veg that we have already made, and eaten our share of, with wheat noodles). As time is tight, I don't generally have time to ensure every kitchen item is washed and put away before leaving the house at 6pm, but I do try to ensure that the kitchen is tidy enough to be functional. Some less-often used items that don't go through the dishwasher may sit next to the kitchen sink for a few days before being washed up by hand. Dishwasher is put on at least daily by me.

I do most of the other general housework (cleaning, laundry, putting bins out, looking after the animals) and life admin (utilities etc, school admin, sport admin for kids).

DH is very handy practically and does a lot of things that are outside my skill set. He does a lot of car, bike and house maintenance/improvements that most people would pay for. He mows the (very large) lawn in the warmer months, washes the cars and, periodically, the outsides of the windows. He does most of the heavy gardening. He does occasionally run the hoover round or wash up.

DDs make their own packed lunches, sort their own food for lunch if they are at home (weekend, holidays), get themselves to school and back, and keep their own bedrooms clean(ish!). They are both mature and independent (they keep on top of homework, take the right things to school on the right days, get their kit together for training and events and sort it out afterwards, put their dirty laundry in their laundry bin and collect and put away their clean laundry). On a quiet day at home, they may help with jobs around the house.

So, AIBU for making tea at 5pm three nights a week to accommodate our DDs' hobbies, and then using their training time to do the supermarket shop and do my own exercise?

And, more kindly, what do you think we (individually or as a family) could change to make my DH less miserable?

(Sporadic poster here; have namechanged for this.)

OP posts:
Abc12389 · 15/02/2023 14:47

Offer to swap. You work full time and he reduces his hours and does what you currently do.

Does he stay at home until 6pm to avoid doing the shop/club/cooking routine? Sounds like he’s got a cushy number to me.

mindutopia · 15/02/2023 14:48

God, the luxury of coming home to an empty house 3 nights a week and just needing to cook for myself and having all evening to do the dishes and a bit of tidying with no one annoying me. That sounds like bliss. Where can I sign dh and my dc up to sports like this?!?

I think this is quite normal for teens. I used to regularly not get home until 10pm from activities some nights. Why doesn't he try getting home in time to take them with you and then once or twice a week, you could have dinner together or do the food shop together or go for a run together?

Lcb123 · 15/02/2023 14:48

Gosh, reading that made me exhausted- you must all be knackered. You need to discuss how to split things more evenly - I don’t understand how he’s not home til 6 with those hours and drive? He needs to come up with some suggestions then. Personally I couldn’t live like that, but we are lazy generally… my kids will not be encouraged to do time consuming hobbies 😂

PurpleButterflyWings · 15/02/2023 14:49

Not really 'lovely' is he? 🤔

BlueHeelers · 15/02/2023 14:49

Can you and he sit down and go through the schedule and you could ask HIM what other solutions he can suggest?

Does he want his own DC to stop doing a sport they obviously enjoy? Because that seems to be what he’s suggesting.

Floralnomad · 15/02/2023 14:50

There has got to be more to it than he has to eat alone 3 days a week in an untidy kitchen . Make some time at the weekend and find out what the real problem is . I also don’t get why he isn’t home early enough on the nights you eat at 5 to join you and come out with you or take the kids himself if he only works 10 minutes away - as I said there is definitely more to this .

placemats · 15/02/2023 14:52

Would he leave a meal for you if the working patterns were reversed? Ask him.

Dixiechickonhols · 15/02/2023 14:52

Crumpleton · 15/02/2023 14:45

DH is upset that he "comes home to a house which is dirty and cold, no-one is home and the washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea."

I think I'd be a bit grumpy.
Wouldn't bother me getting my own dinner but unless you're one that uses all the pots and pans between the three of you washing the dishes would only take a few minutes.

Op’s priority is getting kids to activity at 6 though.
So she works, perhaps does school or bus stop pick up, cooks tea, leaves him some tea in pan. Also deals with ‘mum I can’t find my leotard/I need these ingredients for cooking tomorrow/can you sign this slip for school trip etc’. Rushing out leaving some pots on side to be washed.
If he wants pots washing then he could come in at 5.15 takes kids to activities while she washes up.

NotMyDayJob · 15/02/2023 14:53

It's not ideal, but he sounds like a sulky baby. are your DC not supposed to do their activities so he doesn't have to come home to an empty house and no dinner? boo hoo.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 15/02/2023 14:54

Mumoftwoinprimary · 15/02/2023 13:35

He could make an effort and get home at 5:10pm and eat with the rest of you.

Or he could stop being a bit of a baby and suck it up!

This.

He's sounding like a bit of a twerp, to be honest. He has such a short commute, what is he doing to get home at 6? Could he do the food shopping on his way home? Or get home in time to eat with you??

Blondewithredlips · 15/02/2023 14:55

Floralnomad · 15/02/2023 14:50

There has got to be more to it than he has to eat alone 3 days a week in an untidy kitchen . Make some time at the weekend and find out what the real problem is . I also don’t get why he isn’t home early enough on the nights you eat at 5 to join you and come out with you or take the kids himself if he only works 10 minutes away - as I said there is definitely more to this .

My thoughts exactly.

BlackSwan · 15/02/2023 14:56

I don't understand why you're being such a martyr.

You're working harder than he is & you're listening to his complaints?

Tell him to quit whining & do some housework. If he doesn't think he has time, ask him to drop his weekly evening activity to free up the time.

If he wants a housekeeper/cleaner then he's capable of hiring one.

Wexone · 15/02/2023 14:56

I think there is something more to this, its been building up some time for a while and now its erupted to what appears to be a man that is completely selfish. Take a step back from this and look at it again, is he asking to spend more time with you and the family? Does he feel hobbies are way too much ? Is his commute really 10 mins away or is it a 10 mins drive when there is no traffic, is his job one that requires him to stay on sometimes I agree with @Floralnomad , take some time at the weekend to have a good honest chat together, not a nit picking one that goes i do this and that etc, its not a competition, it needs to be a proper honest conversation without blame

C8H10N4O2 · 15/02/2023 14:56

Testina · 15/02/2023 13:56

“washing-up is not done so he can't make his tea”

Read a bit further to see that you both work full time, you do most of everything, and you’re out with the kids a lot in the evening.

Didn’t finish reading though as my eyes were rolling too hard at the quote. What a cock 🙄

^This.

He is being ridiculous - this is life with teens and activities.

You both work full time and you are also doing the evening runarounds/meals for the kids whilst he just has his ten minute commute.

If he isn't happy with it he can get home earlier or do some of the activities runs with the kids. Better still, he can pull his weight around the tedious daily chores which all seem to fall to you.

I assume also he is able to set the timer on the heating if he doesn't like coming home to a cold house. Or does he think its 1955 and he should return home every night to wifey and kids at the door with his pipe and slippers?

melmos · 15/02/2023 14:57

Get him to do the bi weekly shop and take them training twice a week and everyday start earlier so he can finish at 5 on the dot and be and you can eat together.

You could get him to do the weekly shop but do it in one hit rather than twice, you get an evening to chill and another night both go and go out for dinner together while they are training (maybe Friday night) and the kids can get fastfood before or takeaway after

Reallybadidea · 15/02/2023 14:59

I actually think regardless of him finding this routine 'miserable' he needs to rejig his own routine so that he can leave earlier and do some of the ferrying about and shopping. Kills two birds with one stone - he pulls his weight more and he gets more family time.

Buenosfairies211 · 15/02/2023 15:00

Of course he's miserable if he comes home at 6pm half the week and theres no one home.

Really, a grown man?

I’m married to a man who didn’t make it home until 8pm most nights when he was building up his business. And he travelled a lot too. I was on my own with the the dc a lot of the time, whereas the op’s dh only has to look after himself fhs!

The reason he feels alone is that he is not contributing enough to family life when he gets home. But if he is not prepared to help his wife, then the least he can do is sit down and watch the news with a beer and a newspaper and stop complaining!

2023gulp · 15/02/2023 15:00
  1. he needs to her home earlier obvs
  2. he can cook for the following evening surely…? Help the family out as you seem to be doing the lions share. Why?? why doesn’t he do more day to day…?
  3. he needs to commit to one of the evenings so you get a night off surely?

I think he’s being pretty unreasonable really!

MuthaHubbard · 15/02/2023 15:01

He could be home and eat with his family by 5.15pm on those nights. Sounds like you are doing all the hard work tbh and he's sounds a bit sulky - currently all he has to do is heat up some food or tops, boil some noodles. I'd be well chuffed if that's all I had to do

Crumpleton · 15/02/2023 15:01

Dixiechickonhols · 15/02/2023 14:52

Op’s priority is getting kids to activity at 6 though.
So she works, perhaps does school or bus stop pick up, cooks tea, leaves him some tea in pan. Also deals with ‘mum I can’t find my leotard/I need these ingredients for cooking tomorrow/can you sign this slip for school trip etc’. Rushing out leaving some pots on side to be washed.
If he wants pots washing then he could come in at 5.15 takes kids to activities while she washes up.

He could indeed do the after school activities but while OP is home pot washing she'll be missing out on doing her evening meet ups/sports.

IamnotSethRogan · 15/02/2023 15:02

All a bit of a non issue. You're running around after the kids all week and you make sure he has dinner ready for when he gets home. Tell him to grow up as the only option would be taking the children out of clubs I presume he enjoys. Also you've prepared dinner so he should tidy up anyway

outdooryone · 15/02/2023 15:05

There is an element of DH finding it tough which he needs to get over. That is family life.

However, there is a shared element here. So many of your choices - having a family, jobs, house, significant sporting commitments etc are exactly that - choices. You can choose to alter some, to take a different direction. (No, I don't mean selling a child.... ;-) )

I for years prioritised quality of family life over a significant salary or two. I moved to a cheaper house and a very different lifestyle. My kids don't remember a late night violin practice or trampoline practice after a full day at school (and did not enjoy it) - but they remember the mountains we climbed together at the weekend, the windswept beaches we visited, the quality time with wider family and friends.

So I do have some sympathy here - but maybe this is based out of a different set of priorities in life.

DelphiniumBlue · 15/02/2023 15:05

So 2 nights a week he's by himself at home till 9pm. On both of those nights he could come home by 5:10 and eat with you all, maybe help with the ferrying and shopping and clearing up? Or he could work later one of those nights meaning he can leave bang on 5pm every other evening with a clean conscience. Or he could forbid you or the children from doing your sporting activities so that he has company at home when it suits him.
What does he think is the way forward?

Brefugee · 15/02/2023 15:06

Have only read OP and one or two replies

He could make an effort and get home at 5:10pm and eat with the rest of you.
Or he could stop being a bit of a baby and suck it up!

he could even, gasp, make a bit of effort and get home early and do one of the evenings taking them to sport and do the supermarket shop.

What are his concrete suggestions? or is he just expecting you all to fit in with him?

Florin · 15/02/2023 15:06

It sounds flipping miserable. Could you do one night each and the other night you do it together and go out for dinner somewhere together?