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"Take Back Control of our borders"

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verdantverdure · 13/02/2023 14:22

AIBU to think the Brexiteer rallying cry of "Take Back Control of our borders" did not lead me to expect net migration at record levels, asylum seekers in small boats at record levels, and suspect diseased meat in Britain due to a lack of border checks seven years after the vote.

You?

YANBU This was not what I understood by the phrase "take back control of our borders"

YABU I know what I voted for, and it was exactly this. Diseased meat YUM!

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verdantverdure · 31/05/2023 21:44

Points based immigration schemes tend to bring in the skilled workers so the unskilled jobs need to be done by...

US.

So much for a high skill high wage economy eh?

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SerendipityJane · 01/06/2023 08:47

verdantverdure · 31/05/2023 21:44

Points based immigration schemes tend to bring in the skilled workers so the unskilled jobs need to be done by...

US.

So much for a high skill high wage economy eh?

The irony of Britain turning into a country where the indigenous population act as servants to an immigrant class would not be lost on people from India. And the fact they managed to get the indigenous population to agree to it will be long celebrated in the history books as one of the best tasting cold dishes in history ...

Is one narrative you could follow.

verdantverdure · 01/06/2023 14:07

I hadn't thought of it like that @SerendipityJane

Surely the penny must be dropping.

Hardly anyone has told me they knew what they were voting for in about a year.

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SerendipityJane · 01/06/2023 14:33

verdantverdure · 01/06/2023 14:07

I hadn't thought of it like that @SerendipityJane

Surely the penny must be dropping.

Hardly anyone has told me they knew what they were voting for in about a year.

As we now know, Brexiteers don't think. Those that can't can obviously be excused. But those that can and didn't are getting all they deserve.

verdantverdure · 05/06/2023 10:15

"On one occasion we noticed parasites in the mouths of the fish.

They were taking over the tongues of Sea Bream so weren't safe to eat. That was pretty disgusting for colleagues to find, and rewarding to know we'd taken it out of the food chain".

Food checks on food coming in from EU ports has now been delayed for 18 months.

The U.K. government hasn't told U.K. ports when or what to expect.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-65757282

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SerendipityJane · 05/06/2023 12:06

Food checks on food coming in from EU ports has now been delayed for 18 months.

If this leads (as it will) to UK consumers avoiding EU imports, then is the UK prepared for the backlash as the provisions in the TCA are utilised ? To a chorus of "I thought we'd taken back control" from the ever-thick Brexiteers.

Yes, we have "taken back control". However we have also taken back the consequences of that control.

I presume the same lack of checks will be an issue with Australian and New Zealand imports too. Only I bet we don't hear about that.

verdantverdure · 25/11/2023 04:56

I started this thread due to unprecedented highest ever net migration figures due to Brexit and apparently now they're even higher.

When people voted to take back control of our borders was this what they were voting for? Highest immigration ever?

Remainers said this is exactly what would happen. Why didn't Leave voters understand that?

news.sky.com/video/migration-rise-what-do-the-numbers-tell-us-13014552

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verdantverdure · 25/11/2023 19:48

Love a good meme

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Dymaxion · 29/11/2023 21:09

To be fair, lots of people were cross about EU immigrants stealing our jobs and thought it was racist that other countries didn't get a look in ( allegedly ) so they will all of course be delighted with the latest figures Wink

verdantverdure · 30/11/2023 18:28

Dymaxion · 29/11/2023 21:09

To be fair, lots of people were cross about EU immigrants stealing our jobs and thought it was racist that other countries didn't get a look in ( allegedly ) so they will all of course be delighted with the latest figures Wink

Yes, I too definitely got the impression that Brexit supporters wanted to be poorer and have less freedom so that more people from Asia, India, South America and Africa could emigrate here.

I'm sure that's what they meant by "Take Back Control of Our Borders"

I'm sure Brexit supporters were so keen in an immigrant income threshold and a points-based immigration system because naturally it leads to more qualified immigrants coming in to do the well-paid good jobs leaving the insecure minimum wage ones for us British workers.

That was every Brexit voters's plan, right?

Back when they knew "what they voted for".

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verdantverdure · 30/11/2023 22:01

Just popping this here.

We have so much control of our borders that we've lost 17,000 people.

amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/29/home-office-loses-17000-asylum-seekers-registered-in-britain

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Moreorlessmentallystable · 07/02/2024 16:24

YABU thinking staying in the EU would have made illegal immigration less common? It's going up everywhere,including countries that are still in the EU.

Guardian800 · 07/02/2024 16:30

Dotjones - that is exactly the sort of generic nonsense constantly thrown around by brexiters trying to cast a positive light on what is a shit show. The thing is brexiters were warned time and again about the negative impact of brexit ( most of which is now happening) and people still voted to leave.

just mindless stupidity.

I honestly feel that some people should not have been allowed to vote on such a complex issue.

Jovacknockowitch · 07/02/2024 16:34

I honestly feel that some people should not have been allowed to vote on such a complex issue.
Aye, bastarding democracy, that should only be for clever people who talk loudly in restaurants, eh?

Couldyounot · 07/02/2024 16:35

Lockheart · 13/02/2023 14:45

We already had control of our borders. The idea we didn't was a fabrication.

Yep, and the ability to blame some external body for successive governments' failure to do it properly (because boring/expensive/difficult/whatever) was apparently the cherry on top.

Guardian800 · 07/02/2024 16:38

Jovacknockowitch - well given the shit show that is brexit the root cause of which is gullible people - frankly the referendum should never have been held. Millions of people had no idea ( and had no interest ) of the repercussions of brexit. Here we are 7 years later with all the fall out.

Bambooshoot · 07/02/2024 16:39

Dotjones · 13/02/2023 14:49

YANBU, but if I'm honest we haven't really had a proper Brexit so far. Yes we've technically escaped the worst of the EU's clutches but we haven't even begun to take advantages of our new freedoms.

I think of it being like in the aftermath of an abusive relationship. Whilst in the relationship everyone seemed to tell us we couldn't make it on our own, they either ignored our partner's (the EU's) flaws or said that even with the harm they were causing we weren't good enough to stand on our own two feet.

Now, we're in that post-relationship limbo where we don't know what to do. We know (deep down) that we're better off alone but part of us still misses the relationship we'd been in for so long.

In time we'll find our feet and get moving, but we need to remember that the decades of being controlled and abused can't be forgotten overnight. It takes time to move on. Right now we're probably in the "sleeping around because casual sex makes us feel special" phase. Some people are still in the denial phase, we all move on at different speeds.

This is possibly the most ridiculous thing I’ve read on the internet today. We don’t elect politicians to sit around being emo teenagers after a break up. We expect them to plan and implement effective policy, to ensure the country and its people have the best possible outcome in the resulting economic and legislative framework (that they should be very familiar with, given that it’s literally their job).

Kendodd · 07/02/2024 22:50

Bambooshoot · 07/02/2024 16:39

This is possibly the most ridiculous thing I’ve read on the internet today. We don’t elect politicians to sit around being emo teenagers after a break up. We expect them to plan and implement effective policy, to ensure the country and its people have the best possible outcome in the resulting economic and legislative framework (that they should be very familiar with, given that it’s literally their job).

I think @Dotjones post was a spoof.

MixedCouple · 07/02/2024 22:52

I am waiting for these promised millions.....

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