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Just want to say, I LOVE being single.

304 replies

theoldcatsmells · 09/02/2023 17:30

I'm 41. I spent my entire life chasing men, hoping they would want me, hoping they would validate me. I'm ashamed of myself. It got me in so much trouble. Wasting my life being loyal to a divvy. Then a totally abusive and controlling relationship which is still threatening to ruin my life.

But…. I look back on my life and realise that every single best period was when I was single.

Answering to no one. Having proper alone time. Watching what I want and doing what I want. Also flirting, and the excitement of knowing I can flirt with anyone and speak to anyone.

I've been listening to this podcast called Alonenemt and it’s really fun.

I just have literally no need for a man, for validation. Now of course a decent loving partner is a thing to be cherished, I've never had it! Well I have but I was so young I found it boring. Maybe there's something wrong with me but I just want to say I am overjoyed at being single and finally it’s a relief to realise it. To realise that that’s what my happiness is.

Can you share things you enjoy listening to about single life?
Can you share why you love being single?
I just feel elated about it.

OP posts:
Thesharkradar · 11/02/2023 14:32

Labelling us man haters sounds like an attempt to categorise us with misogynists, or in other words to try and imply that we are as bad as the men who hate women.
I don't see men being routinely assaulted murdered and raped by women, I don't see men being subjected to online hate campaigns by women. This is not women attacking and harassing men, it is women choosing to live lives apart from men, they are not wishing them harm they just don't particularly want to engage with them.
whereas men are seemingly unable to stop themselves from attacking and harassing women🤬

AFrivolousDigression · 11/02/2023 14:45

I've enjoyed being single for the past 7 years.
At first I found it both difficult and freeing at the same time. Difficult because I had never been on my own before. Freeing because I didn't have to think of another person being in my space and navigating all that brought.

I had to work out the difference between being alone (which I realised I liked) and being lonely (which I didn't like). That took several months. Running helped me work out the difference. I used running to think about stuff.

I was married for 25 years to a man who was not a great conversationalist or very intellectual so I didn't miss conversation with him, but I missed some of the practical things e.g. someone cooking for me, which he sometimes used to do after I returned from the gym. This isn't the same as a ready meal. It was as the fact someone bothered at all to cook that counted. He used to bring me tea in bed sometimes in the morning and if I was ill (rare). I miss being brought tea in bed, and wondered about getting an automated tea-maker gadget like they used to have on the Generation Game years ago, Goblin IIRC. Don't know if they still make them. If not maybe Dyson could do a good one for his next project, not so pretty please.

I don't miss my last coercive and controlling relationship after the divorce and all that brought. He used to tell me how to load dishes in the dishwasher and would stand over me instructing where to put the plates, etc., for the most effective wash. He also used to criticise my driving, even though I had never had an accident and took notice of the highway code, something he rarely did. He used to mount a pavement to go around the person in front if they were too slow to get out of a junction. If I went normal speed for the road he would tell me I was either too slow or too fast. By the time I got home I was a nervous wreck.
I don't miss the way he would pull his jumper over his head, still attached to his shirt, unbuckle his trouser belt and with his pants still attached to his trousers step out off them, with socks attached to the bottom of the trousers leaving all in a towering heap. I used to leave it there for days waiting for him to do something about it. He used to wait for the cleaner to deal with it.
I miss a cleaner, but I don't miss how nosy they can sometimes be.

What I like about being single is:
I can pad around in Winceyette pyjamas wearing a thermal vest and big pants underneath anytime I want and not care at all that I'm not sending out sexy vibes.
Or I can dance naked in my sitting room to Flamenco music, stomping my feet, raising my hands to make castanet gestures at 2am if I feel like it and no one will bat an eyelid.

I can cook whatever I want when I want or not.
I can watch whatever I want whenever I want or not.
I don't have to listen to Saturday sport or Talk Sport radio anywhere
I don't have to go to places I don't want to or compromise on what I want to do.
I can be whatever shape I allow myself to be without any comments from anyone or any commentary (inside the house).
If I want to eat a donut at 3am (I don't but if I did) I could just do it.
If I want to go vegan for a month as an experiment I can, and no one will grumble about not having a roast on Sunday or anything else they might be missing.
If I want to sit up all night reading poetry for the hell of it, I can.
If I want to learn a language and practice Spanish conversation at 10pm I can, without feeling pressured to watch a boxed set or fit in with someone else.

What I have lately thought about is that I do miss sex, and fantasise about being loved and having sex, which isn't the same thing as having sex with someone without love (which looking back I don't think I have ever been, loved that is, which is sad), and I who I suspect I would like is to find someone who will love me the way I am (a rather eccentric cross between Lady in a Van meets the central character off Fleabag, crossed with a smidgeon of psychopath, a whisker of Marquis de Sade and a whole lot of INTJ.

Other things I like about being single:
Earning my own money, spending it as I like.
My extensive library on everything from quantum mechanics to how to do my own plumbing to my latest addition, a book on Slime mould and Fungi.
Having my own bathroom all to myself.
Shopping by myself. My ex husband used to follow me around the isles and as I was putting in items from the toiletry section, he would take stuff out when I wasn't looking. When I got the the checkout, half of it was missing. He was never really a homey-homemaker. Didn't care if there weren't pictures on the wall, or curtains up and I had to badger him for days to do things around the house.

Recently I've been thinking of maybe dating again as I miss sex with another, and I thought I would like someone to be with in my older years and experience love.
I've come only this far in my thinking which is that I think I'd like to find a man or woman (I'm going through a phase of questioning who/if anyone, to be with, and now I've worked out I would like someone who's:

Kind (a rare breed in my own experience)
Intelligent, (including emotional intelligence)
Sense of humour (absolutely essential)
Solvent
Interesting and interested (both very necessary)
Like music (preferably)
Be healthy and want to stay that way as far as they have a say in it.
Generally obey the rules about not harming others but are not obsessive about rules in general and are easy going.
Like sex
Like poetry, like literature, like travel (the poetry and literature are not essential but would be nice)
Like walking
Be interested in science
Are humane to animals and like animals (to weed out the psychopaths as I only have a smidgeon of this and it's never connected to animals, and only surfaces when I think of certain people (usually politicians, does that count?).

What I've learnt from being single is that I'm not prepared to 'settle' for anyone to avoid being alone. I would rather be single.

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 14:52

@QueefQueen80s @JamSandle@LexMitior You all sound a little bit smug that the husbands of your married 'friends' have apparently tried it on with you/come onto you, and allegedly secretly fancy you. And you seem to be inferring that most married men will try and shag their wife's friends.

For a start, there are many married men who wouldn't touch his wife's friends with a 25 foot barge pole! And.... NEWSFLASH! It's not just SINGLE women who get hit on by married men. (Although I know you prefer to think that.) You may think/claim that all the husbands of your married friends/acquaintances/ colleagues etc are desperate to shag all you single women, but MARRIED women get hit on too. By married men (AND single and divorced men.)

I have been married almost 30 years, and have had many men - some married, some single, trying their luck, messaging me/texting me, hoping for a hook-up. Doesn't happen as much now. (Maybe a couple of times in the past 6 or 7 years,) but used to happen quite often. DH's married friends used to try their luck with me too. (And a few single ones did...)

And it's not just me. I know many MARRIED women who have been hit on by other women's husbands. (And they have been hit on by a few single men too!) It's not just single women who get men trying it on. 🙄

TheOriginalEmu · 11/02/2023 15:00

SilentNightDancer · 09/02/2023 22:36

It isn't meant to be a 'gotcha' question and obviously no son is 'owed' a woman or anything else ridiculous.

While I was reading the thread I was struck by the number of women referring to their sons, yet also talking about how they would never want to settle down with a man again.

It came across to me as quite odd, that's all. Presumably they are raising their sons to be wonderful men who will one day bring a net positive to someone's life - and yet they are ruling out the possibility that any man could bring a net positive to their own lives.

I was reflecting on this slight contradiction, not lusting after a future where women are either shackled to men or mourning the 'error' of their singleness in some dystopian future.

I raise my sons to be good people who bring a net positive to the world, whether they choose to be in a relationship or not. I raise them (and my daughters) to be happy and secure in who they are independent of anyone or anything else. I don’t raise them to be ‘good husbands’ because that’s not the pinnacle of being.
so I fail to see how that is contradictory to me choosing to be single?

DoomedForLoneliness · 11/02/2023 15:06

Is the married men’s come on’s so common?
I’ve no doubt taken men hit on women, but their (wives) friends?

That is crazy bold!

TheOriginalEmu · 11/02/2023 15:11

BeardyButton · 10/02/2023 07:09

Good on you!

I ❤️ This thread! ❤️❤️❤️💋

and honestly? Yes! I’m a little jealous! And I’m one of the lucky ones - a husband who pulls his weight (ish), doesn’t abuse me etc. But Jesus! Some days the relentless toil of thinking about someone else. The compromises. And yes - we ve been together 20 years. I love him and all, but he also annoys me in a way no other human being can. So yes - when I read threads like this…. I am a little envious. And that’s before we get to all the abusive assholes out there.

The truth is… we don’t need men! A good one is nice! But a bad one? No flipping way.

And congrats on the horse! Fantastic idea!

Haha! Thanks! She’s amazing and she is the best thing I ever did. ❤️ Though a man to shovel the shit might be nice…😂😂
I would never write off a relationship because who knows what could happen, but knowing I can be happy regardless is what’s the most freeing, I think. Especially when you’ve spent years thinking you can’t be happy alone.

LexMitior · 11/02/2023 15:21

@PurpleButterflyWings - you sound more worried than you should be.

I'm a lesbian so really don't care but it's the men at fault.

sammylady37 · 11/02/2023 15:39

arethereanyleftatall · 11/02/2023 12:18

This question I get asked often is very strange..'how are you single? You are so - insert amazing attribute here - '
' CHOICE you utter bellend'

👏👏
great retort

arethereanyleftatall · 11/02/2023 15:39

My preference order is ;

  1. A fantastic relationship
  2. Single
  3. A mediocre relationship
  4. A shit relationship

I know I'll never do 3 or 4 again in my life.

Alondra · 11/02/2023 15:49

I love your attitude and confidence in understanding what you want for yourself. Good on you.

I have a good marriage but will never marry or live with another man again if, for whatever reason, I'd be single again.

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 19:36

Over40Overdating · 11/02/2023 14:09

@BabyOnBoard90 being single makes us happy! As you’ve read and then come to accuse us of being manhaters for.

I don’t hate men. I hate that people tell me I can’t really be happy without one. That my life is only real if it’s shared with one.

If you find joy in being married to one, good for you. But we don’t all have to live like you. The fact you seem angry with that and have jumped immediately to ‘ugh manhaters’ isn’t going to convince us either!

No one on here is trying to covert happily married women to single hood. Yet unhappily married women seems desperate to tell us we should do what they do. Maybe have a think about why it upsets you.

It doesn't upset, I'm just sharing my thoughts like everyone else and I didn't explicitly call everyone man haters.

Maybe reflect on why my benign opinion felt offensive when I said whatever makes people happy.

FadoFado · 11/02/2023 20:05

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 19:36

It doesn't upset, I'm just sharing my thoughts like everyone else and I didn't explicitly call everyone man haters.

Maybe reflect on why my benign opinion felt offensive when I said whatever makes people happy.

'Allegations that this topic has become a man hating forum are becoming substantiated.'

this is your benign opinion?

bless.

LoveMAFS · 11/02/2023 20:09

I've been shocked to discover how many married men will try it on. Being alone has taught me a great deal. I too know the difference now between alone & lonely. I was never more lonely than in my marriage.

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 20:12

FadoFado · 11/02/2023 20:05

'Allegations that this topic has become a man hating forum are becoming substantiated.'

this is your benign opinion?

bless.

Indeed

Over40Overdating · 11/02/2023 20:15

@BabyOnBoard90 your whatever makes people happy was about as sincere as me saying I believe your opinion is benign.

And maybe instead of worrying about the poor men and all the hate you think they are getting from us awful single women, how about sparing a thought for why some people have good cause to hate them and choose not to be in relationship with them.

A securely, happily married women would have a lot of sympathy for that, I imagine.

OrchardBlack · 11/02/2023 20:25

Being single is, generally, fucking amazing. I'm 35 and getting divorced currently and my god the RELIEF that had unburdened itself from me is just wonderful.

Alonement is great too! 👍

OnMyWayToSenility · 11/02/2023 20:27

Jesus wept I have 2 kids with different fathers because I believed in love and faith

Wow
But they are adults now and honestly I'm so happy being single, financially solvent m, because o worked hard and made good financial decisions (weirdly not partner ones)
Amen sister I'm with you as are so many of my friends 😀😀😀😀

Wonderpoo · 11/02/2023 20:29

I don’t hate men at all. All my relationships have been fine, no disasters. A million times happier alone though

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 20:40

Over40Overdating · 11/02/2023 20:15

@BabyOnBoard90 your whatever makes people happy was about as sincere as me saying I believe your opinion is benign.

And maybe instead of worrying about the poor men and all the hate you think they are getting from us awful single women, how about sparing a thought for why some people have good cause to hate them and choose not to be in relationship with them.

A securely, happily married women would have a lot of sympathy for that, I imagine.

It was genuinely sincere believe it or not. I have no interest to get in the way or denigrate whatever makes people happy.

Farmageddon · 11/02/2023 20:45

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 20:40

It was genuinely sincere believe it or not. I have no interest to get in the way or denigrate whatever makes people happy.

But what's sincere about equating women being happy single with man hating? It's ridiculous bullshit and you know it.
But hey, carry on being 'benign' if you like...

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 20:47

Farmageddon · 11/02/2023 20:45

But what's sincere about equating women being happy single with man hating? It's ridiculous bullshit and you know it.
But hey, carry on being 'benign' if you like...

I'm allowed to have my opinion thankfully and still wish people well

Learn to stomach dissent

LexMitior · 11/02/2023 21:40

Why? Are you the kind of person who has to make everything in the world about you and what you do? @BabyOnBoard90.

If you do believe it's a bunch of man haters, then why are you here? Surely you'd be trying to bake a few good arguments?

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 11/02/2023 21:54

@BabyOnBoard90's husband came on to me.

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 21:59

LexMitior · 11/02/2023 21:40

Why? Are you the kind of person who has to make everything in the world about you and what you do? @BabyOnBoard90.

If you do believe it's a bunch of man haters, then why are you here? Surely you'd be trying to bake a few good arguments?

Because I want to

BabyOnBoard90 · 11/02/2023 22:00

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 11/02/2023 21:54

@BabyOnBoard90's husband came on to me.

Ooo lala