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AIBU?

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For not cooking my teenager dinner

520 replies

Ohdesr · 08/02/2023 21:57

So I am really trying to use everything we have in the house before shopping for more.
today i made homemade tomato soup and garlic bread. My teen complained its not filling enough so they dont want that.
Cue her complaining for the next hour that she is starved, i gave her a list of things she could eat, tuna pasta, tuna mayo jacket potato, omelette, pesto pasta, even cereal.

She has now gone off in a strop because i wont go to the shop to buy her something saucy (?!) she hasnt eaten because nothing sounds nice. And now she’s gotten her dad involved saying i am starving her. Ahhhh

OP posts:
pissssedofff · 11/02/2023 07:50

Sizzlebot · 10/02/2023 21:46

This post isn't about you, though.

Well tbf you are trying to make it all about you and your sensitivities to the class system... don't like the thread, use the hide button.

Soup with bread is a snack/lunch/starter in one of the better restaurants i go too....

liann34 · 11/02/2023 07:58

@JockTamsonsBairns during a cost of living crisis no less. The mind boggles.

hobbcat · 11/02/2023 08:00

Homemade soup with garlic bread sounds like a great tea. Add the potato with whatever needs using up for those with a bigger appetite. Job done.

Sizzlebot · 11/02/2023 08:47

pissssedofff · 11/02/2023 07:50

Well tbf you are trying to make it all about you and your sensitivities to the class system... don't like the thread, use the hide button.

Soup with bread is a snack/lunch/starter in one of the better restaurants i go too....

Oh my goodness me, well, that settles it! I'm so glad you're here to set the record straight.

18thCpanniers · 11/02/2023 08:48

Offer to take her shopping for one single family-budget-oriented cookbook of her choice. If there is a cooking teacher at her school who actually teaches pupils how to make a balanced meal (remember those days) he or she may be able to help with a suggestion or two with regards to suitable books.
If you can, put aside some time on the weekend (she isn’t allowed to wriggle out of it) in which you are available to help her to cook a dish that she has chosen from her cookbook. She wants ‘saucy?’ Think of the ‘five base sauces’ of French cooking (I’d avoid hollandaise for now). How hard is it to make a roux? If she can make a roux, she can make a béchamel. A tomato sauce from canned tomatoes enriched with tomato paste. An easy/cheat’s version of sauce Espagnole from cubes/little sachets of beef stock? Ditto for light sauces from chicken or veg stock. She can learn to thicken them and taste the difference between reduction, using cornflour vs the richer roux, or adding thickener foods (which are better for health and waistline) such as red lentils or barley: you don’t need much of either to add thickness to a sauce. Then, what does she want to put the sauce on? Does she know how to make a balanced meal? (Hopefully, she has been taught about balancing a meal at school.) She can learn to make meatballs from affordable mince or the veggie equivalent. She can learn to cook whatever it is that you normally buy, in a way that she prefers, provided she sticks to the allocation of the more expensive products (meat, fish) that are calculated as her portions.

It could go really well!

midgemadgemodge · 11/02/2023 08:52

Poppyblush · 11/02/2023 07:44

Soup and garlic bread is not enough for a teenager, so YABU.

Her reaction to additional food, YANBU. But she was probably hangry.

Stupid statement

If one bowl and a small slice isn't enough just have more

MakeMineABourbon · 11/02/2023 08:55

You gave her plenty of options. She can’t be that hungry if she doesn’t want them. When she earns the money, she can help make the choices. You really aren’t being unreasonable.

therarebear · 11/02/2023 09:50

Wanderingowl · 09/02/2023 09:41

Soup and bread is inadequate as a main meal, the bread having a bit of garlic in it doesn't change that. It's hard to know without knowing how much lentils were in the soup, but it's very unlikely to have had anywhere near enough protein for anyone, least of all a teenager. But not only that, it's our responsibility as parents not only to provide adequate food for our children's needs but to model good eating. We don't have to be puritanical about it but telling a teenager, especially a girl, that tomato soup and bread is an adequate main meal, is a pretty good way to fuck up their relationship with food.

At 16 it's fine to tell her that you made tomato soup and garlic bread as that's all you are in the mood for today. And give her the ingredients and responsibility to make something to supplement it, like a substantial chicken salad. Or the ingredients to make herself a different dinner. But to provide her with a light meal and to tell her that's adequate as a main meal, is gaslighting.

😂FML. OP how dare you fuck up your daughter's relationship with food by making her a vitamin, calcium and protein packed SOUP with cheesy garlic bread. SOUP and GASLIGHTING for dinner!!! That poor child.

My husband and I regularly have homemade soup and toasted ciabatta for dinner. It's lush (butternut squash, Thai red curry paste, stock and coconut milk) and it's very filling. Our 9 year old won't eat it so she would have Heinz tomato soup with ciabatta that night. And some gaslighting.

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/02/2023 09:51

Poppyblush · 11/02/2023 07:44

Soup and garlic bread is not enough for a teenager, so YABU.

Her reaction to additional food, YANBU. But she was probably hangry.

she was probably hangry

She probably was "hangry" - she refused even to try the soup and refused to make herself something to eat when her demands for a different meal weren't met by her mum.

Her "hanger" was of her own making.

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/02/2023 09:52

therarebear · 11/02/2023 09:50

😂FML. OP how dare you fuck up your daughter's relationship with food by making her a vitamin, calcium and protein packed SOUP with cheesy garlic bread. SOUP and GASLIGHTING for dinner!!! That poor child.

My husband and I regularly have homemade soup and toasted ciabatta for dinner. It's lush (butternut squash, Thai red curry paste, stock and coconut milk) and it's very filling. Our 9 year old won't eat it so she would have Heinz tomato soup with ciabatta that night. And some gaslighting.

You should cut back on the gaslighting - it's full of empty calories. 😁

Ohdesr · 11/02/2023 10:03

I can’t quite believe this thread is still going, who knew soup would be so controversial.
For everyone who asked you’re more than welcome to come round.

My daughter actually does know how to cook. She’s just lazy

OP posts:
therarebear · 11/02/2023 10:08

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/02/2023 09:52

You should cut back on the gaslighting - it's full of empty calories. 😁

But it's low on carbs. So really it's better than the ciabatta.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 11/02/2023 10:14

Poppyblush · 11/02/2023 07:44

Soup and garlic bread is not enough for a teenager, so YABU.

Her reaction to additional food, YANBU. But she was probably hangry.

Yes it is. Ffs. Have 2 bowls

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/02/2023 10:44

Some people on here are just obsessed with protein - which is inevitably meat for some people - basically.
a meal isn’t a meal unless it has meat in
and you’re depriving your poor kids if you dare to give them a meal without meat such as homemade lentil soup and garlic bread, it’s just not ‘substantial’ and ‘filling’ and ‘proper’ enough!!!

CM1897 · 11/02/2023 10:48

ozymandiusking · 10/02/2023 18:29

Sorry but I don't think just soup for an evening meal is enough. What about soup as a starter, followed by a lovely cheese omelette, and ice cream ( if you have any) for pud. You have to "sell" it to her.

Why on earth does she have to sell it to her?? It’s not a restaurant. She was offered multiple options, if she doesn’t want them, she can cook for herself, or go hungry. So many people pander to their children’s spoilt behaviour 🙄

No one needs a three course meal every night either

18thCpanniers · 11/02/2023 10:59

I responded because it came up in my feed. It seemed you were having some difficulty: I was offering a suggestion that I hoped would be helpful. Your response is rather dismissive. I didn’t realise that the Mumsnet algorithms dragged up old posts.

Apologies for misreading your post. I should have realised that the AIBU questions express nothing more than a need for vindication and not a request for help. I hope I haven’t offended you.

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/02/2023 11:02

CM1897 · 11/02/2023 10:48

Why on earth does she have to sell it to her?? It’s not a restaurant. She was offered multiple options, if she doesn’t want them, she can cook for herself, or go hungry. So many people pander to their children’s spoilt behaviour 🙄

No one needs a three course meal every night either

@ozymandiusking

this!! 👆

why the fuck does op need to ‘sell it’?! Why?

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/02/2023 11:04

Some teens are gonna get such a shock when they move out to uni or a shared house or whatever and skint and have to eat beans on toast every night in a crappy ill-equipped shared kitchen !

Ohdesr · 11/02/2023 11:06

18thCpanniers · 11/02/2023 10:59

I responded because it came up in my feed. It seemed you were having some difficulty: I was offering a suggestion that I hoped would be helpful. Your response is rather dismissive. I didn’t realise that the Mumsnet algorithms dragged up old posts.

Apologies for misreading your post. I should have realised that the AIBU questions express nothing more than a need for vindication and not a request for help. I hope I haven’t offended you.

Sorry if it came across that way, it was more so that people will still arguing what constitutes an evening meal. I appreciate the replies and people’s opinions

OP posts:
Mrsgreen100 · 11/02/2023 11:09

NB
lentils are a great source of protein

T1Dmama · 11/02/2023 11:49

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/02/2023 10:44

Some people on here are just obsessed with protein - which is inevitably meat for some people - basically.
a meal isn’t a meal unless it has meat in
and you’re depriving your poor kids if you dare to give them a meal without meat such as homemade lentil soup and garlic bread, it’s just not ‘substantial’ and ‘filling’ and ‘proper’ enough!!!

Lentils are packed with protein.

(but I think you’re being being ironic/sarcastic??)

Mrsgreen100 · 11/02/2023 11:52

Nope , not at all , seemed as if posters didn’t realise a soup with lentils is good balanced meal , still as a loss as to why people think soup isn’t a “proper “ meal tbh

18thCpanniers · 11/02/2023 11:58

Thanks.

For what it’s worth, I’d refuse to cook as well. I hope things work out with your daughter. Teens are hard work.

And yes, arguments about what constitutes a ‘proper’ meal can be tedious & really, it’s an argument best left to dieticians, who actually know what they are talking about and have proper scientific training and qualifications that do not come from
the University of the School Gate. (Everyone eats, everyone who has kids is obliged by law and love to feed them, many people read daft diet & parenting books & listen to the advice of ‘nutritionists’ who gained their dubious ‘qualifications’ from any one of the many private colleges dealing in such claptrap, so there is an endless supply of self-appointed experts willing to waste hours arguing about food and what people should/should not eat or feed their children.)

Really, if DD says that tomato soup & bread aren’t filling enough for her, perhaps she could consider eating more slowly: after 20 minutes or so of putting her spoon down between sips, savouring the flavour, taking a separate bite of bread, sipping water and (gasp!) even engaging in conversation with you instead of having a teen sulk and trying to escape the table as soon as possible, she might find herself to be full after all. If she isn’t, then surely she is able to convey herself to the fridge and help herself from a range of what you consider to be allowable add-one: a carton of plain yoghurt and a bit of fruit or something? Her father needs to back you up on your decisions about meals.

I do hope, if she finds your meals not to her liking (gg that must be irritating), that she decides that choosing to cook for herself is a better option than sulking, starving or complaining.

If my own DD does the same when she reaches that age (no doubt she will) my plan is to take the view that she has stitched herself up with regards to her next birthday or Christmas present: she will a good book in basic cookery (soffrito, the mysteries of the malliard reaction, recipes for foundation sauces enough to satisfy any saucy teen, efficient & economical meals that don’t require ingredients that I either wouldn’t ordinarily buy, or that won’t leave a budget hole if I do, and ideally, some advice on meal planning, nutritional needs, calorie needs calculated over the week rather than per day, so she doesn’t become obsessed with daily counting, but becomes aware that in order to maintain health and to ensure that the quick-release energy is there for whatever sports she does, she needs to make decisions and understand that it’s fine to have fish & chips or a good Sunday roast (or whatever her ‘rich food’ thing is) but that these meals must be balanced over the week with lower-density foods.

I might also enrol her in a home cookery course. One that includes budgeting, including adequate vegetables (including in-season & frozen vegetables), using vegetable as well as animal sources of protein, not treating carbohydrates as a demon food to be avoided at all costs, understanding portion size, and understanding how to manage calorie and nutritional needs without letting them take over daily life.

Hmm. I have a few years up my sleeve. Perhaps I should (with the help of a dietician) write the course and teach it myself. 😂 Who knows? It might turn out to be a decent earner!

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/02/2023 12:06

therarebear · 11/02/2023 10:08

But it's low on carbs. So really it's better than the ciabatta.

😂

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/02/2023 12:08

Mrsgreen100 · 11/02/2023 11:52

Nope , not at all , seemed as if posters didn’t realise a soup with lentils is good balanced meal , still as a loss as to why people think soup isn’t a “proper “ meal tbh

Agree.

Soups can be alight snack or they can be thick enough to stand a spoon in and full of nourishment and very filling indeed.

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