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To think we're blatantly being trolled....

201 replies

Punkroses · 07/02/2023 23:46

Lee Anderson being appointed as the Deputy Chairman of the Tory Party.

I'm genuinely disturbed by what on earth the government is doing....Is anyone seriously worried at what the hell is going on?

Apologies if this is a dupe post, couldn't see anything here or on the politics board.

OP posts:
MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 08/02/2023 13:12

JusteanBiscuits · 08/02/2023 10:29

Having worked for over 20 years in public sector (though not in the commons!) why the HELL are their used wine glasses in her office?! Says it all really.

I'd need wine if I was working for Lee Anderson.

JusteanBiscuits · 08/02/2023 13:37

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 08/02/2023 13:12

I'd need wine if I was working for Lee Anderson.

True!!

FRIGATUS · 08/02/2023 13:46

borntobequiet · 08/02/2023 05:58

This is the clip mentioned by a pp, if it’s not already been posted.

Evidence!

Wow! He’s doing what job now!? 🤔

RelievedItsOver · 08/02/2023 14:01

Nooyoiknooyoik · 08/02/2023 09:38

Is there any giving him the benefit of the doubt? He’s certainly not a typical Eton stereotype.

He seems a bit thuggish but then he’s probably grown up with trouble outside his front door, not distantly beyond the thick walls of his vast demesne(s). So he’s more in tune than the average Tory with hard living and less inclined to be all superficially fluffy and woke.

This is the level of critical thinking these days. I'll say no more.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2023 14:51

I leave for a few hours and I've been quoted more times than I've ever been. Seems I should start a new business MrsTP's Sweary Plain English Interpretation Services for a modest fee I will change your posts into 'something approaching English'. Well, Anglo-Saxon actually.

I bet there's a lucrative government contract I could 'tender' for.

OMG12 · 08/02/2023 14:55

Let’s face it, the majority of politicians are self serving twats. It’s what gives them the arrogance of thinking they can win an election. No one nice and normal who thinks about the wider good goes for the job.

unsureatthispoint · 08/02/2023 15:00

BIWI · 08/02/2023 11:10

OK - so you believe his behaviour is acceptable do you?

Do you believe that it's possible to feed yourself/family for 30p a day?

Do you think it's OK to publicly support white supremacists?

Do you think it's OK not only to ogle your colleagues breasts, but to post about them on Twitter?

Do you think it's OK to lie? And to do so knowing that you're on camera?

If you think all this is acceptable, I hate to think what you think 'bad behaviour' is.

To reiterate @MrsTerryPratchett, he's a cunt.

I'm still not sure why you are accusing him of being racist. He did not agree with taking the knee and I have read something about being tough with groups wanting to occupy land that did not belong to them, I cannot remember where in the UK exactly

The 30p issue is neither here not there, as there are many influencers making videos about feeding a family on a budget, etc

MaybeIWillFuckOffThen · 08/02/2023 15:03

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2023 02:00

@VeniVidiWeeWee

They're cunts.

😂😂😂
Bloody well said that woman!

Hope that clears it up for you @VeniVidiWeeWee - if you can even read over the inflated baloon of your own pomposity.

BIWI · 08/02/2023 15:05

JFC - have you even bothered to read this thread?! There are links to his posts where he gives his public support to racists. And in my book, if you're giving your support, publicly, to a racist that means you share those racist views too.

And the 30p issue is very much here and there. Lee Anderson isn't just some flybynight blogger or influencer, he's a politician. And now deputy leader of the Conservative party.

Do you have any understanding, or empathy, for the issue of poverty in this country? Or do you share Michael Gove's views, perhaps, that those people who need to use food banks only do so because they made 'bad choices'?

Sirius3030 · 08/02/2023 15:53

VeniVidiWeeWee · 08/02/2023 01:42

@Sirius3030

You may consider him unpleasant, but please show evidence of his lying or bigotry.

The OP's bigotry is self evident.

So many examples, but let's start with:
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-lee-anderson-gets-slap-24501004

BigMandysBookClub · 08/02/2023 16:17

I think he's a twat. They are all twats.

AutumnCrow · 08/02/2023 16:24

PegSliderskew · 08/02/2023 09:55

The Conservative Party reminds me of Eastenders these days. Like the uncomprehending and motiveless souls trapped in the hell of Albert Square, they are only permitted to employ, befriend and mate with the other occupants of Parliament, however unlikely those couplings gradually become. Sooner or later, every woman will marry Phil Mitchell, every man work for Ian Beale and every child vanish for a while to be reborn as a troubled sexy young adult. Any new resident of the place becomes a dramatic, adulterous mess with criminal leanings, regardless of their personality when they first appear. At the same time, child beaters can become loveable idiots and multiple murderers live next door to the families of their victims with no long term rancour.

There is no rationality, morality or sanity left in the Cabinet. Rishi Sunak will marry Boris Johnson and we will all be dragged down to purgatory.

This was a joy to read. Thank you Grin

BigMandysBookClub · 08/02/2023 16:37

AutumnCrow · 08/02/2023 16:24

This was a joy to read. Thank you Grin

Yes, brilliant. I'm not surprised at the similarities. Do you think there will be a baby swap at some point?

Didn't they sink a boat in the Thames in EE during a booze cruise? Perhaps we could stock a boat full of cocaine, gin and networking opportunities to tempt them on. They do like a freebie and bit of shameless brown nosing afterall.

Hmm.

poshme · 08/02/2023 16:48

Not a great fan of 30p Lee, but people are criticising him for not paying his staffer enough (poor woman- I wouldn't work for him) but also criticising him for claiming 'over £200,000 in expenses'.

The more he pays his staff, the higher his expenses will be... MPs with the lowest expenses pay crap wages to their staff.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 08/02/2023 16:58

poshme · 08/02/2023 16:48

Not a great fan of 30p Lee, but people are criticising him for not paying his staffer enough (poor woman- I wouldn't work for him) but also criticising him for claiming 'over £200,000 in expenses'.

The more he pays his staff, the higher his expenses will be... MPs with the lowest expenses pay crap wages to their staff.

Given how much he claimed on his expenses, one might expect to see the staff slightly better paid? How many staff does he actually have?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 08/02/2023 17:00

BigMandysBookClub · 08/02/2023 16:17

I think he's a twat. They are all twats.

But some are more twattish than others, and this guy is particularly high up there in the twat stakes...

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 08/02/2023 17:04

OMG12 · 08/02/2023 14:55

Let’s face it, the majority of politicians are self serving twats. It’s what gives them the arrogance of thinking they can win an election. No one nice and normal who thinks about the wider good goes for the job.

I think that's unfair, actually. There are politicians on both sides of the house who have a genuine sense of public duty, and they work hard to serve their constituents.

Let's not let the really shit ones off the hook by shrugging it off and saying they're all as bad. Actually, they're not. None of them are perfect, of course, but the really bad ones ought to be properly held to account.

poshme · 08/02/2023 17:15

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves most MPs employ about 5 staff, and the published 'expenses' costs includes employers NI and pension for their staff. So an employee on £30k actually 'costs' the MP about £36k

ghostyslovesheets · 08/02/2023 17:35

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2023 02:00

@VeniVidiWeeWee

They're cunts.

Perfection! See also 'six toed born to rule pony fuckers' - Glenn - before he went Glenntal

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 08/02/2023 19:12

poshme · 08/02/2023 17:15

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves most MPs employ about 5 staff, and the published 'expenses' costs includes employers NI and pension for their staff. So an employee on £30k actually 'costs' the MP about £36k

Yes, I employ people myself so would expect on-costs to be included. I'm surprised at the suggestion that the average number of staff is 5 though - I presume you mean 5 full time equivalent posts rather than 5 individuals who may or not be part time, otherwise the statistics would be pointless. Do you have a source for that? My work brings me into close contact with several MPs and none of them have staffing at this level. They are very stretched so I'd be surprised if they were choosing to employ fewer people than they were allowed to employ!

poshme · 08/02/2023 19:31

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves you can see details on the Ipsa website- which will also tell you exactly how many staff each MP has.
Www.theipsa.org.uk

So for example, 30p Lee had 3 full time staff who worked for the full year in 21/22, 1 part time who worked a full year, and 5 people who worked part of the year either full or part time.

Zonder · 08/02/2023 19:58

OMG12 · 08/02/2023 14:55

Let’s face it, the majority of politicians are self serving twats. It’s what gives them the arrogance of thinking they can win an election. No one nice and normal who thinks about the wider good goes for the job.

I actually really disagree with this. We have a lot of people in the current government of whom this is true, but there have always been decent politicians on the right and the left who genuinely want to make things better in the country. They just have different ways of doing it. It's a low blow to say they're all the same.

LakieLady · 08/02/2023 20:05

VeniVidiWeeWee · 08/02/2023 01:42

@Sirius3030

You may consider him unpleasant, but please show evidence of his lying or bigotry.

The OP's bigotry is self evident.

Here you go @VeniVidiWeeWee

Lee Anderson's bigotry

Crispynoodle · 08/02/2023 20:18

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2023 02:00

@VeniVidiWeeWee

They're cunts.

True storyGrin

JenniferBooth · 08/02/2023 20:30

hes a knob