Even Vera 😓

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Even Vera 😓

Just watching tonight's Vera. Obviously men should be allowed in womens' hostels. Daren't make a comment out loud as the teenagers have swallowed woke hook line and sinker.

The genuinely intelligent don’t let a single topic dominate discussion to a restrictive degree.

We're quite able to have a range of conversations whilst also focusing on women's and children's rights, so I'm afraid this attempt to shut up dissenters has not worked.

Lol!! You can actually see how many topics are discussed here cant you? - maybe you’re the one obsessed about this topic trying to shut it down? It all appears a bit gaslighting - now I wonder who does that a lot - a very male trait!

why is that? Why don’t you like women talking about such an important issue? Because if you don’t realise it’s an issue you haven’t been paying attention. Why are you so invested in trying to take women’s voices away about a topic that is so very very harmful to women Stanley? I’m always wary of anyone trying to shut down debate. Do you think transwomen are women? If so, what do you think is a woman?

Have you seen the list of topics?

lots of discussions on lots of subjects

Yes, terrible. 🤔 How dare writers and your kids have views of their own.

And someone always brings it back to trans issues.

Where have I said I want to stop the issue being discussed? I do, however, have an issue with the number of MN threads that get hijacked on this basis.

Yup. Puts me off so many threads as someone will always make some sort of snide anti-trans comment.

The majority of the trans stuff posted isn't even reasoned debate about safe spaces or ways forward, it's mostly just unfiltered fucking hatred that wouldn't be allowed to stand if it was said about any other group.

Good for Vera. Very refreshing.

Iam4eels, please tell us which posts contain “unfiltered fucking hatred”?
Mumsnet moderators will delete any such post - you have only to report them.
As I haven’t seen any such posts allowed to stand, I can only assume that you regard women merely defending their rights as “hatred”.

I would absolutely require proof of that

there are thousands and thousands of threads and i really don’t believe that there are comments like that on even the majority of them

(that is not to say though that there aren’t comments like that on relatively’unrelated thread’, just not to the extent you are saying)

And this

ive definitely reported transphobic, racist, homophobic etc posts

In this thread alone you've got comparisons being made between supporters of trans rights and nazis.

But they’re not really their own views are they? They are just following a trend that’s been heavily pushed on social media the media and schools.

luckily teenagers seem to be moving on to the next trend (although obviously a number have suffered irreversible damage)

Transphobia, racism and homophobia all lumped together - Nichola is that you?? Straight out the TRA playbook.

Where???

Many TWAW posts are indeed homophobic. In my opinion any which calls a male a woman and then expect a lesbian to consider that person in their dating pool are homophobic.

Sorry quotes the wrong post was meant for @Iam4eels

OPs post on 06/02/2023 at 09:18 where she references "woke nazis".

By complaining about it being discussed, Theos is primarily a women’s forum (clue in the title - it’s helpful to have words like mum). Some Men are intent on trying to silence women about fundamental issues such as the definition of “woman” on which women’s rights are based. It actually has extremely broad implications for women, probably one of the most important issues in women’s rights for over a century. So we will keep on discussing it, because we don’t want to be oppressed!!

So one quote out if how many??? The term “Nazi” here is using its alternative meaning in the Oxford English Dictionary

“a person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.
"I learned to be more open and not such a Nazi in the studio"”

The OPs comments do not refer to TRAs being a member of the Nazi Party or something equally as hideous.

words - they have meanings - buy yourself a dictionary.

words - they have meanings - buy yourself a dictionary.

Oooh, sick burn.

This is why you can't even debate the issue. You're all so twisted up in your anger that you don't want a discussion, you just want backslaps over who can be angriest and group-hate sessions.

I haven't lumped them together, that's what the fucking etc is for 🙄

If someone sees a transphobic OR racist OR homophobic post OR any other type of attacking post then they should report them

Absolutely....so I assume you report them as homophobic posts

Jesus - that was in response to @Iam4eels - why does it keep linking the wrong quotes