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Even Vera 😓

226 replies

Wavingnotdowning · 05/02/2023 21:44

Even Vera 😓

Just watching tonight's Vera. Obviously men should be allowed in womens' hostels. Daren't make a comment out loud as the teenagers have swallowed woke hook line and sinker.

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avamiah · 06/02/2023 04:08

Just read all the posts and there are a lot of comments about a Trans character and people saying they are never watching Vera again ?
What happened ?
I don’t want to go onto reviews .

avamiah · 06/02/2023 04:26

@HirplesWithHaggis ,
So the trans woman was a fake and just pretending?
And Vera says she is a woman but really she isn’t ?
😬

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 06/02/2023 07:25

The transwoman was male like all transwoman are so should not be in a space for females as that would make it a unisex space

Intrepidescape · 06/02/2023 07:48

I can’t watch “Vera”. She’s such an angry unhinged woman yelling at everyone and complaining that I can’t watch it. She appears completely unstable and unprofessional.

frazzledali · 06/02/2023 07:50

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Misogyny, much?

"Women, you talk of what you couldn't possibly understand"

Funnily enough, people always know what a woman is, when they want to dismiss us.

JanusTheFirst · 06/02/2023 08:00

It added nothing to the story and was a distracting annoyance.

Vera wouldn't have been as accepting as she was shown to be. She would have dealt with many rapists in her time and would value safe spaces for women.

I wonder how Brenda felt about it. Or the author - was it from a book?

IfIHadAHeart · 06/02/2023 08:07

I’ve complained. Such a shame as I love Vera.

BellePeppa · 06/02/2023 08:19

Wavingnotdowning · 05/02/2023 22:54

Yes - I hadn't thought of complaining, but I will do. I'm afraid my teenagers, 17, and 19, are way too far along the brainwashed road that my husband and I now feel that it is not worth the nuclear fallout at the moment. We are walking on eggshells in our own house.

Are your teenagers male or female (in the truest sense). I ask because my two sons have zero interest in woke and haven’t been brainwashed by it all (including my son at Uni). I wonder sometimes if it’s teenage girls who are more likely to fall for it (even though it’s most detrimental to them). When my son was at senior school he said it was the girls in his class who were going woke, not the boys.

xeraco · 06/02/2023 08:24

Well a positive is that this issue is spreading into other topics as women become more aware and less intimidated.

Mumsafan · 06/02/2023 08:30

I thought Vera was being sarcastic when she said "no place for a lass". She had to get answers so it was favourable for her to go along with it.

Had conversations with mine about it and I'm not unduly worried. My youngest DS (26) is gay and has a lot of drag queen friends and even he finds issues with the whole woke thing at times. It certainly isn't all as cut and dried as the media and other sources have us believe.

DD is still in education and the views there are also shifting. There was a year or so where the whole "flag" issue was important but now the girls have all moved on it seems to the next thing, as teenagers do.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/02/2023 08:30

BellePeppa · 06/02/2023 08:19

Are your teenagers male or female (in the truest sense). I ask because my two sons have zero interest in woke and haven’t been brainwashed by it all (including my son at Uni). I wonder sometimes if it’s teenage girls who are more likely to fall for it (even though it’s most detrimental to them). When my son was at senior school he said it was the girls in his class who were going woke, not the boys.

Yes my dd said the same. So depressing, when it is the girls who are losing out.

user1465390476 · 06/02/2023 08:32

It’s frustrating that such a hugely complex issue is dealt with in such a simplistic manner. No one would say a trans victim of domestic violence should be put into a vulnerable situation. There is an epidemic of violence against women carried out by men and those women fortunate enough to get help in refuges have complex needs and benefit from all female spaces. Even hearing a male voice could be traumatic for them. But let’s talk about a hypothetical trans victim instead of tens of thousands of women. I don’t get it.

BellePeppa · 06/02/2023 08:47

Wavingnotdowning · 05/02/2023 22:54

Yes - I hadn't thought of complaining, but I will do. I'm afraid my teenagers, 17, and 19, are way too far along the brainwashed road that my husband and I now feel that it is not worth the nuclear fallout at the moment. We are walking on eggshells in our own house.

My advice would be don’t walk on eggshells. In fact I’d be crushing those egg shells with hob nail boots on!

UWhatNow · 06/02/2023 08:52

BellePeppa · 06/02/2023 08:47

My advice would be don’t walk on eggshells. In fact I’d be crushing those egg shells with hob nail boots on!

Me too! People frightened of talking about reality with their kids? That’s Orwellian.

knittingaddict · 06/02/2023 08:56

Nooo. How could they do this?

UWhatNow · 06/02/2023 08:57

Ladybrrrd · 06/02/2023 00:42

YABU. If it makes you feel any better the woman you are talking about was sent to a men's hostel and looks like she was threatened/assaulted/harrassed. I'm sure with all the hysteria that's being whipped up around TW, that will become/will continue to be a reality. What are you complaining about? That a TV expressed some sympathy towards a TW?

Yes men, as a sex class, are violent and commit most of the violent and sexual crime. Exactly why women don’t want them in their spaces.

What don’t you get about it?

People CAN’T change sex.

DesertIslandCondiment · 06/02/2023 08:57

SirVixofVixHall · 06/02/2023 08:30

Yes my dd said the same. So depressing, when it is the girls who are losing out.

I was going to type something similar to @BellePeppa . My teenage Son and his friends are the same. Which I am so happy about.

UWhatNow · 06/02/2023 08:59

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Handmaid alert.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 06/02/2023 09:00

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There was a message from MNHQ the other day saying not to chase posters off boards

good advice i thought

Wavingnotdowning · 06/02/2023 09:18

They seem both to be under mind control, a boy, gay, and a girl. Usually sensible, both intelligent and articulate, now completely brainwashed vehemently anti JKR. My main concern is that I have tried to bring them up to be open minded, argue their cases from facts and respect other people and their opinions, even if they disagree. Now I seem to have two extremely articulate Woke nazis on my hands😓

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Wavingnotdowning · 06/02/2023 09:20

Just dusting off my hobnails 😂😂😂

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derxa · 06/02/2023 09:57

Utterly jarring and unnecessary shoehorning of a trans character

slowquickstep · 06/02/2023 10:08

Wavingnotdowning · 05/02/2023 22:54

Yes - I hadn't thought of complaining, but I will do. I'm afraid my teenagers, 17, and 19, are way too far along the brainwashed road that my husband and I now feel that it is not worth the nuclear fallout at the moment. We are walking on eggshells in our own house.

You walk on egg shells in your own home ? Bugger that, why do their views trump yours? They can always go leave

Mumsafan · 06/02/2023 10:11

Wavingnotdowning · 06/02/2023 09:18

They seem both to be under mind control, a boy, gay, and a girl. Usually sensible, both intelligent and articulate, now completely brainwashed vehemently anti JKR. My main concern is that I have tried to bring them up to be open minded, argue their cases from facts and respect other people and their opinions, even if they disagree. Now I seem to have two extremely articulate Woke nazis on my hands😓

Both my youngest went through an anti JKR stage. All blown over now.