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Mason Greenwood.

402 replies

Icannotbelieveitatall · 02/02/2023 14:23

I cannot believe that the charges have been dropped.

Anyone remember the audio recording?

He demanded she put her legs up.
“Mason stop, I don’t want to have sex.”
”I don’t give a fuck what you want.”

Charges dropped. I cannot believe it.

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BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 06/02/2023 09:28

He was neither average nor Ronaldo-esque last time he was playing, though the year without playing won't have helped his game.

prh47bridge · 06/02/2023 09:44

WellIvenotheardthefullstory · 05/02/2023 10:09

@BankOfDave honestly me neither ….

but is it attempted rape? Could you listen to just that audio and convict someone with no proof of who it is and no context before and after of attempted rape? Which is what the jury was being asked to do.

that’s a bloody fine line considering a guilty verdict should only be made when it’s beyond all reasonable doubt.

Unfortunately that audio whilst unpleasant is completely subjective. A defence lawyer can poke all kinda holes in it

I agree. Attempting to get a conviction on the basis of that recording alone is unlikely to succeed. It is often forgotten that the recording ends with the male voice (presumed to be Greenwood) saying, "Get the f* off me". The defence would have a field day with that on its own, especially if the complainant is no longer supporting the prosecution.

mikado1 · 06/02/2023 16:06

What did he do jn Iceland?

prh47bridge · 06/02/2023 16:11

mikado1 · 06/02/2023 16:06

What did he do jn Iceland?

He and Foden broke Covid-19 quarantine guidelines. They were supposed to stay in a certain part of the hotel. They left it, allegedly to meet two women in another part of the hotel.

mikado1 · 06/02/2023 16:13

Ah OK, thank you.

WellIvenotheardthefullstory · 06/02/2023 21:10

@prh47bridge

i know - that’s the other thing that made me think it would just get ripped to shreds by defence. He was persistent aggressive and demeaning yes. But that doesn’t constitute attempted rape. I feel a bit sick saying that because he’s clearly a fucking scumbag who treats women appallingly but it was always a paper thin case.

i just hope and pray she’s okay going forward.

AdamRyan · 07/02/2023 11:27

WellIvenotheardthefullstory · 06/02/2023 21:10

@prh47bridge

i know - that’s the other thing that made me think it would just get ripped to shreds by defence. He was persistent aggressive and demeaning yes. But that doesn’t constitute attempted rape. I feel a bit sick saying that because he’s clearly a fucking scumbag who treats women appallingly but it was always a paper thin case.

i just hope and pray she’s okay going forward.

What?
A recording of a woman saying she doesn't want sex and a man saying he's going to do it anyway is a "paper thin case"?

What would constitute a strong case in your opinion?

Felix125 · 07/02/2023 12:08

But you won't be able to use this an exhibit as she has withdrawn her statement.
And she is the one who is exhibiting the recording.
So, it can't be used

AdamRyan · 25/02/2023 15:43

www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mason-greenwood-father-man-utd-29308814.amp

So weird

Either she is having a baby with a rapist, or he is having a baby with a vindictive liar

I cannot get my head round it

Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 25/02/2023 16:12

Well there we have it 🤷🏼‍♀️ she’s made her decision, and we can no longer pretend things are always very clear cut in these scenarios.

Ppq · 25/02/2023 16:13

AdamRyan · 25/02/2023 15:43

www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mason-greenwood-father-man-utd-29308814.amp

So weird

Either she is having a baby with a rapist, or he is having a baby with a vindictive liar

I cannot get my head round it

Well this is awful. She must be in a very very tough place

Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 25/02/2023 16:17

Ppq · 25/02/2023 16:13

Well this is awful. She must be in a very very tough place

Or she’s just decided the money and status is worth the abuse.

Fromwetome · 25/02/2023 16:24

@HiccupHorrendousHaddock

The police and justice system are the same as NHS at this point. On their knees and so broken it's not fit for purpose.

SpinningFloppa · 25/02/2023 16:41

What a mess. Agree she decided the money and status was better, I was surprised she went public with this anyway was clear it was never going to be followed through. If he was “wrongly” accused though I don’t see why he would get back with someone who would do that so…. Money talks 🤷‍♀️

kindercup · 25/02/2023 16:47

What a shit show for the poor child

SpinningFloppa · 25/02/2023 16:50

When they grow up they will see that their mum accused their father of raping them.

Buildingthefuture · 25/02/2023 17:22

Maybe I’m being dim, but I can’t see from that article that the girl who is pregnant is the same girl who accused him? If she IS the same girl, then I really don’t think money and status come into it. There are so many threads on here from women who’ve had dc with absolute tossers and they didn’t have any money! Abusive relationships can be really hard to leave. I hope she is getting support and advice from people that love her. And, I wish MN was a nicer place.

Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 25/02/2023 17:25

SpinningFloppa · 25/02/2023 16:41

What a mess. Agree she decided the money and status was better, I was surprised she went public with this anyway was clear it was never going to be followed through. If he was “wrongly” accused though I don’t see why he would get back with someone who would do that so…. Money talks 🤷‍♀️

Sorry yes if of course it is the same girl. MN can’t really be a ‘nicer place’ until the world is, and I object to the idea that because it’s a website mainly for mums we should #bekind and be sugary sweet and not discuss anything dark or difficult. And that includes uncomfortable topics which don’t fit desired narratives.

Buildingthefuture · 25/02/2023 18:24

@Winniethepoohandtiggertoo i think you meant to quote me but got it wrong. And, I don’t give two fucks whether it’s “mums” commenting or not. Abusive relationships are incredibly hard to leave, it often takes multiple attempts and money has nothing to do with it. Most of the women who are helped by Womens Aid do not have partners with money or status, yet still they stay. That’s not an uncomfortable topic or a desired narrative, it’s a fact.

AdamRyan · 25/02/2023 18:26

www.google.com/amp/s/opoyi.com/amp/sports/who-is-harriet-robson-mason-greenwoods-girlfriend/

It's the same woman

All very sad, I feel for their future child

userxx · 25/02/2023 20:08

Wtf. Said it before, foolish girl.

What a horrible environment for a little one.

Felix125 · 26/02/2023 10:49

Fromwetome · 25/02/2023 16:24

@HiccupHorrendousHaddock

The police and justice system are the same as NHS at this point. On their knees and so broken it's not fit for purpose.

I thought she withdrew her complaint

So how is the police and justice system on its knees....?

prh47bridge · 26/02/2023 13:48

Felix125 · 26/02/2023 10:49

I thought she withdrew her complaint

So how is the police and justice system on its knees....?

She did. So you are correct, this is nothing to do with the state of the police and justice system.

Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 26/02/2023 13:50

Felix125 · 26/02/2023 10:49

I thought she withdrew her complaint

So how is the police and justice system on its knees....?

Because that’s the stock response on here. Blame public services or the government. Personal responsibility doesn’t exist.

Meltinthemiddle · 30/07/2023 09:14

Just saw the girlfriend is pregnant wtf! What a fucked up situation.