Vulva owners?!

[Tallulah28]

Just came across this (no pun intended!) on Insta. Can someone explain to me how this company can use the “by mums for
mums” advertising ploy yet then go on to reduce us to “vulva owners”?

On further research "penis owner" is definitely a phrase in use to include trans women:

www.google.com/search?q=%22penis+owners

It may be a phrase but as I said I never see it on adverts etc, all the handwringing to avoid using the word female or women though is something I see much more frequently.
On other Hut group owned companies they're fine using men/male, no penis owner nonsense.

Woman absolutely is not an exclusionary term! If an individual doesn't like it/can't face that they're female, they are self-excluding, and that is their choice. However 'woman' absolutely does refer to all biological women as a class, hence is inclusive of all women, and nothing more than that is needed as a qualifier. Especially not horrible terms like vulva owner or person with a womb. UGH.

You say pedantic, I say factual.

Thank god the arbitrator of feminist priorities has arrived.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4733912-some-woman-enable-misogyny

Arbitrator = arbiter

The 'play on words' as pp put it is one of the most pressing issues facing women and girls right now. It absolutely is NOT a side issue and has hugely important implications in law and in society right from childhood and into all aspects of womanhood. So NO, I'm not going to 'have a laugh' at it.

Hahaha 🤣

Has has regular services

"Because some vulva owners who have given birth don't like being called mums - they might prefer dad or something else. Vulva owners, uterus havers, menstruators is the only reliable way to capture people who were born as women but no longer think of themselves as women." From @LauraNicolaides upthread

Great, so let's exclude everyone with learning difficulties, people for whom English isn't their first language, everyone who (perfectly reasonably) REALLY dislikes being dismissed as a body part and all those incredibly well-educated Labour front benchers who don't know which bits belong to women.

You're right, that's SOOOO much more inclusive than saying women, a word that is widely understood, entirely courteous and simple to grasp.

Do you work for this company's social media department by any chance?

It is intended to be a vulva and fulfil the role of one

What's the 'role of a vulva', then?

And why is it that a tiny minority of people who don’t like being called women, are super important and need language to be altered to suit them, but if the rest of us don’t like being reduced to vulva owners, we should just suck it up? Talk about double standards.

WOMEN covers all those people.

This.
Vulva Owners. Ffs.
On the plus side I own a Volvo.

I'm not a vulva owner I'm a woman.
I'm not a person with a womb I'm a woman. (also this is offensive to women who have had hysterectomies).

Get it fucking right for the majority of us and address us as women, stop pandering to the minority.

Most trans women have not had surgery and so won’t have a surgically constructed vulva. Most trans women would therefore not come under “vulva owner”.

the use of vulva owner is really referring to trans men, or other gender diverse people who are anatomically female but don’t identify as women

I find the term vulva owner highly offensive for those without clitoris'. Please immediately update your responses to be inclusive of vulva owning non clitoris owners. Many thanks.

So everyone else serves special labels to express ether identity apart from women? What a fucking ridiculous farce.

@Smile makers, maybe you have studied female (!) sexuality but your marketing messages are puerile, sexist, using stereotypes and doesn't reflect ANY insight into what mothers (rather large and diverse segment) may like.

You are patronising and unsophisticated calling your products The Frenchman, The Firefighter, The Millionaire, The Tennis Coach and what's with the pastel coloured, stationary looking plastic toys, what age group is your target customer? Have some respect women😡😡we do not wish to be labelled Vulva or uterus owners, fuck right off.

If you wish to be inclusive, have you even studied the transmen / non binary segment? Do they look for sex toys with names that are so facile and stereotypical, heterosexual normative?

Sexist, puerile Idiots.

So everyone else deserves special labels to express their identity apart from women? What a fucking ridiculous farce. too annoyed with this shit.

Most trans women have not had surgery and so won’t have a surgically constructed vulva. Most trans women would therefore not come under “vulva owner”.

To add to that, even if a man were in 'possession of' a surgically constructed 'vulva', that most definitely isn't actually a vulva, 'functioning' or not! He will still be male, and he will still have male genitalia. He does not get to appropriate womanhood for himself.

well they've certainly hit a line haven't they. Advertisers everywhere can rejoice..

Sweets for mouth owners every where
Condoms for every penis owner
Socks for foot owners
Hats for head owners..
Scarfs for neck owners far and wide
Tops for torso owners

FFS Mumsnet why on earth are you conspiring to reduce us to our component parts ... I am not a bl**dy vulva owner, chest feeder or womb carrier.. I AM A WOMAN...

Tell me - how quick would the back lash be if men were referred to as "penis owners" "prostrate carriers" or "sperm givers"

This one has gone from active and trending for me as well now...along with the other thread on a similar topic.

How very strange 🙄

And to further add, I should have said he doesn't get to claim 'vulva' for himself either!

I don’t ‘own’ a vulva any more than I own my hair. It grew. In the way that a man’s vulva does not. YANBU.

And for a lot of those who've had surgery it doesn't even 'function' in the sense of being able to heal up and live a normal life. People who undergo such experimental surgeries have life -long complications and pain.