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Vulva owners?!

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Tallulah28 · 01/02/2023 18:16

Just came across this (no pun intended!) on Insta. Can someone explain to me how this company can use the “by mums for
mums” advertising ploy yet then go on to reduce us to “vulva owners”?

Vulva owners?!
Vulva owners?!
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TangledWebOfDeception · 02/02/2023 12:42

Yes quite. I'm SICK of these procedures being sold to very vulnerable children and young people as viable procedures with a satisfying and happy end result. It's anything BUT and shouldn't be used as some kind of magical entryway into the world of the opposite sex. It's not!

BelperLawnmower · 02/02/2023 12:47

I'm not a vulva owner I'm a woman.

Trans then.

ElBandito · 02/02/2023 12:59

Woman excludes children, vulva owners does not.

TangledWebOfDeception · 02/02/2023 13:00

Oh so a sex toy company needs to be inclusive to children does it??

Utterly stupid and not a gotcha by any means.

ElBandito · 02/02/2023 13:09

No, but generally it does show how inaccurate'vulva owner' or 'cervix haver' is if you are using it to describe your target market, whether you are selling sex toys or providing health care.

TangledWebOfDeception · 02/02/2023 13:10

And guess what? If it were a situation where including minor females was appropriate, we have a perfectly good term for that too! GIRLS. Again, no qualification needed.

JUST STOP IT.

TangledWebOfDeception · 02/02/2023 13:11

Ah ok I think I had crossed wires with you there!

There's just no need for all the bollocks.

ElBandito · 02/02/2023 13:13

My point was it shouldn't be inclusive of children but, strictly speaking, at the moment it is. I am not claiming that this is their intention.

VulvaOwnerBornNotBuilt · 02/02/2023 13:15

ElBandito · 02/02/2023 13:09

No, but generally it does show how inaccurate'vulva owner' or 'cervix haver' is if you are using it to describe your target market, whether you are selling sex toys or providing health care.

I was about to go WTF about your previous comment but you are right, the Smile Makers are recommending vibrators for children, for babies.

And yet we are on the wrong side of history. Fucks sake.

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 14:00

I was about to go WTF about your previous comment but you are right, the Smile Makers are recommending vibrators for children, for babies.

WHAT? Where?

NewBootsAndRanty · 02/02/2023 14:01

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 14:00

I was about to go WTF about your previous comment but you are right, the Smile Makers are recommending vibrators for children, for babies.

WHAT? Where?

As in children and babies have wombs..

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 14:04

When has sex and motherhood ever been a taboo?

Women would have only given birth to one child and stopped. But history shows us that is not the case. FFS they used to have sex in the same room as their children. They still do in some countries, what with a lack of space.

LikeTearsInRain · 02/02/2023 14:04

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2023 19:07

I dunno. I'm duly concerned that the term women is becoming taboo, but I can't get too worked up at this. They were talking about mothers but clarified in response to a question that anyone with a vulva might enjoy it.

Yeah this. And perhaps emphasising where it is to be used, as it’s different to other toys. Use on the vulva is mentioned in the main post.

Posters on here are nuts.

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 14:05

@NewBootsAndRanty Thank you. I obviously missed that bit of thread. Too cross.

xogossipgirlxo · 02/02/2023 14:07

They can fuck off, seriously. Their toy won't touch my vulva.

NewBootsAndRanty · 02/02/2023 14:08

No worries.

I think I meant vulvas not wombs - I'm flitting between two different mumsnet vibrator and female anatomy threads Grin

TangledWebOfDeception · 02/02/2023 14:10

It's not different to other toys of its type on any level! Seriously does shitty marketing like this actually work?? Clearly it does, on some people...

It's a clitoral stimulator. Used on the vulva. Which only females have.

I don't like the 'they mean babies and children/they're recommending it for them' shtick. No they don't and no they aren't. I understand what you're trying to do but IMO it's not helpful to use that to demonstrate the lunacy. It just does make you sound a bit...loopy to people who don't get it.

Keep it simple, keep it factual. There is a word for the female sex. Woman. If something is made for women to use/targeted at women then just USE THAT WORD.

LindasLovesLindor · 02/02/2023 14:12

NewBootsAndRanty · 02/02/2023 14:01

As in children and babies have wombs..

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IKR. Smile Makers (someone else said how very creepy this name is in the given context) say "all our vibes at Smile Maker are created for people with vulvas and their anatomy, so no age limit then. Looking at the product design, colour scheme children's toy look and feel and product description "ultra-gentle stimulation on the vulva for pain free exploration" it's aimed at a much younger and more inexperienced market. If you leave this lying around on your bed side table, the toddler is no doubt going to use it to chew on and older female children will think ooh, I have a vulva, let me see how this works and mess around. It's freaking weird.

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 14:14

NewBootsAndRanty · 02/02/2023 14:08

No worries.

I think I meant vulvas not wombs - I'm flitting between two different mumsnet vibrator and female anatomy threads Grin

Just the two? There's one on Site Stuff about this as well 😁

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 02/02/2023 14:14

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 09:40

They widen the scope from mothers when somebody asks about those who are not mothers. It’s only then that the scope embraces a wider subset.

The wider set is not a subset. Mothers is the subset of women.

Women is the subset of vulva owners. That’s where the subset comes in.

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 14:18

Women is the subset of vulva owners. That’s where the subset comes in.

😂😂😂 Too precious.

Men don't have vulvas. Just like a neo-vagina isn't actually a vagina.

monsteramunch · 02/02/2023 14:37

Because some vulva owners who have given birth don't like being called mums - they might prefer dad or something else. Vulva owners, uterus havers, menstruators is the only reliable way to capture people who were born as women but no longer think of themselves as women

Why is their preference to be described in particular terms more important than the preference of women who don't want to be described in particular terms?

TiredofExplaining · 02/02/2023 14:44

Urgh. Yeah, they can fuck off

cruisebaba1 · 02/02/2023 15:47

gettingolderbutcooler · 01/02/2023 18:27

I've got a second hand 55 year old vulva available? Well used but runs fine.
Roomy. Very roomy. No longer needed.

😂😂😂😂😂

ErrolTheDragon · 02/02/2023 16:13

Women is the subset of vulva owners. That’s where the subset comes in.

Fail in either biology or maths.

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