Why do people keep voting the tortes in again and again

[Thomasina79]

Not wanting an argument, just wondering. Another Tory has been dismissed for dishonesty and day after day we hear of stories about people having to choose between heating and eating. Surely people realise we need a change of government? The NHS and other support services such as teachers are on strike. What next?

This.

Agree with this. Why do people think they can positively influence when they keep saying the aggressive "look you fucking selfish idiots, stop making decisions that you feel are for your benefit, you and your views mean nothing and count for nothing, do what we say is right"

Totally agree.

Well, in the last election (as in most) because they had the only sensible plan to manage the economy.
Because the Conservatives traditionally believe in a small state.
Because many people supported Brexit (tho I didn't).
Because Labour were anti- semitic.
Because the Labour leadership were not trusted.

It's perfectly normal for people to have differing opinions, OP, that is why we have regular elections and why democracy works!

Who would vote for the party that trashed the economy, put everyone's mortgage, rent and energy bills up, and whose policies are the source of almost every problem this country has got?

Whatever reasons people voted Conservative before are gone.

Name change for this one. Honest answer for my family is because for us Labour would be a personal disaster due to a range of their proposed policies. It would also make it impossible for us personally to contine to support and assist those that we currently do. Also, I do not agree with the power that unions have dictating Labour policy. I am very politically aware. I would vote for lib dems nationally if it were not a wasted vote. I don't 'hate' people who vote Labour or Lib Dem yet people of this thread clearly have strong opinions about my reasons for voting tory 😁

I will never vote Labour again, unless they fully investigate and weed out antisemitism in the party. I don't like the stand that other parties are taking on GR and protecting children from medical 'treatment' for a fad.

Labour haven’t had a strong enough leader.

Labour would be disastrous for this family from school fees to much higher taxes to "mansion" taxes and much else. It would be utterly dreadful. They hate the high earners who pay loads of taxes and they want me to be much worse off. They are terrible.

Lack of a credible alternative?

Well you look down on me for voting for my children to have a good education…I look down on you for not aspiring to provide your children with a great education and being happy with the current shit state schools - so there we are.

Im sure you will vote labour for your own selfish reasons - you want everyone to level down etc. - whereas I’m also voting for selfish reasons.

I'm not voting for a party where members who believe that women's rights should be sex based rights need to meet in secret and get heckled by their own party members when the attempt to speak in Parliament.

If Rosie Duffield had been accepted as a legitimate voice in a highly contested debate then I could stomach my concerns about Labour and continue to vote for them but this cowardly position of making heretics out of reasonable voices is an extremist position I won't support. They can get fucked quite frankly.

It's not as simple as that though. Inflation was largely driven by the pandemic and the invasion of Ukraine, both of which have had the same impact in other countries such as the U.S. In turn, that's meant that interest rates have risen, as they have in the US.

Blame the Tories for many things but the geopolitical and pandemic-related events of the last couple of years have been fairly unique.

Labour will almost certainly win the next GE but anyone expecting them to change things drastically is in for disappointment. I always think - would someone who pays no attention to politics at all, doesn't watch the news or read newspapers notice any difference to their lives from a change in government - and I don't think they would.

Tbh we should be grateful that a lot of rich parents are choosing to invest in property rather than pay private school fees..ultimately private schools are businesses and what would really push up the prices isn't taxes but supply and demand. When I was buying my first flat, the seller was someone who bought a 2 bed flat next to Fortismere school despite owning a 4 bed house in the same borough in order to get her daughter into Fortismere. Buying an extra London flat is more expensive than 1 child's private school fees. And imho a lot of these comprehensives aren't necessarily that great academically, they just have lots of heavily tutored middle class children. But if all these parents entered the private school race, that would really raise fees. Actually a lot of potential private school parents may be put off private education (not because they can't afford it but because a £2 million house is a tax free asset for now other than stamp duty which is a one off so may choose to go state route for that reason)..

Because the gateaux are too airy and crumble too easily.

You think the government set interest rates?

Liz truss' little economic experiment sent mortgage rates racing upwards. That is a fact. People on variable rate mortgages were fucked.

@socialmedia23 she was a total disgrace but why is her brief interlude of 6 weeks still giving repercussions now ? I don’t understand how Truss had such a devastating effect still - and even more to the point how she still got her massive pay after trashing the economy

How would a Labour government screw up the economy more than Truss and Kwarteng did?

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Because 'the economy' pays for the ambulances. 🙄

I'm in Wales and think this about Labour - 20+ years of running NHS and education and it seems worse than England - there are reason but even so it feels depressing - plus there's been a few financial scandals here as well.

Then you look at Tories in Westminster and that looks bad as well - so who know who I will vote for in the end.

I didn't vote for the Tortes, as they invariably share the Pie unfairly, always promising Jam tomorrow for the rest of us and making a true Eton Mess of things whilst Hobnobbing with rich friends. But in the Roly Poly politics of today, the alternatives are not very appetising. The last non-Torte PM was a Brownie who made a Hash of it, and the current Big Cheese really takes the Biscuit, always sitting on the fence or being concerned with political Trifles, and apparently happy for a Sorbet to self define as Ice Cream. The others are even less attractive, third choice has a leader whose name nobody knows, I think it is Richard, and I Spotted Dick on TV recently, and the final choice is a Deep Fried Mars Bar, which nobody in their right mind wants.

Don't look down on me! I aspire for all children to have a good education: yours, mine and the kids of the people working minimum wage jobs. I could never afford private for my kids - am I scum in your eyes for sending them to a comprehensive? Sounds like that's what you think tbh.

I don't look down on you for aspiring for your kids; I look down on you because you're happy to trash the nhs, state education for everyone and other public services by continuing to vote Tory for such a bizarro reason. Have a lovely evening.

Because there are enough British voters to be taken in by their blatant lies.