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Why do people keep voting the tortes in again and again

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Thomasina79 · 29/01/2023 18:34

Not wanting an argument, just wondering. Another Tory has been dismissed for dishonesty and day after day we hear of stories about people having to choose between heating and eating. Surely people realise we need a change of government? The NHS and other support services such as teachers are on strike. What next?

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dew141 · 11/02/2023 18:14

And they're all floating towards Labour at the moment.

Absolutely. I'd be amazed if the Conservatives won.

It was the implication that only Conservative voters can have entrenched views. It's back to the saints and sinners narrative. These threads inevitably end up the same way on MN.

verdantverdure · 11/02/2023 18:23

KnittedCardi · 11/02/2023 17:48

I generally float around the middle, as I think most people do, and have voted for all parties over the last 30 odd years.

Undoubtedly Labour will get in at the next election. But anyone who thinks that they are going to make any radical change is kidding themselves. The last couple of years under the Tories, have been the most socialist/left of cedntre since goodness knows when. Tax and spend. Printing money. Supporting workers through Covid with furlough and loans, lowering business rates and upping UC. Supporting the country through numerous types of Cost of Living payments. Taxing Oil and Gas at 75%. What will Labour so that will be so different?

Not crash our currency

Why do people keep voting the tortes in again and again
MaybeSmaller · 11/02/2023 18:54

Blossomtoes · 05/02/2023 16:03

If this reflects the level of intellect of the majority of voters we’re fucked for ever.

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Which is why I wrote "almost".

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/02/2023 20:23

Florenz · 11/02/2023 12:26

Oh the Tories are in a bad state. But it'd be nice if Labour got themselves into a position where the Tories are firing on all cylinders, the country is doing well, everyone is happy, and Labour win in a landslide. Instead of being the party that wins when the Tories implode.

That would be lovely, but unfortunately it's not reality in 2013 UK. The next government will win because the country is imploding after so many years of Tory chaos, incompetence, corruption and arrogance.SadAngrySad

Florenz · 11/02/2023 20:36

It's Labour's fault that the Tories get in so often and for so long that they are able to make such a mess of things.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/02/2023 20:41

Oh catch yourself on @Florenz. Its always somebody else's fault.🙄 Well this shitshow is the fault of the Tory government and the fools who fell for their lies and soundbites.

Florenz · 11/02/2023 20:43

It's Labour's fault as well.

EffortlessDesmond · 11/02/2023 21:11

Not picking populist young pretty candidates like Jared O'Mara to appeal (cheaply) to young voters. Apparently the financial story is still to explode.

EffortlessDesmond · 11/02/2023 21:13

But he's in jail regardless. Go Labour.

EffortlessDesmond · 11/02/2023 21:22

I (probably) will vote Labour next election. But not for belief in their policies. It will be because I think the Tories have become so complacent that they need a jolt up their arses. Most modern day politics swivel around the centre.

chaosmaker · 11/02/2023 22:29

How anyone can say this tory mess is socialist is beyond me. Socialist would be running services centrally and properly instead of all this bidding for the contract which inevitably leaves us, the taxpayer, propping up their revenue so that their shareholders rake it in regardless of the services they offer (I'm mostly thinking crappy train services here) but most that are striking are run similarly badly and at great cost (financially and in pathetic service) to all of us.

Blossomtoes · 12/02/2023 00:18

Florenz · 11/02/2023 20:36

It's Labour's fault that the Tories get in so often and for so long that they are able to make such a mess of things.

Unreal. Did you manage to type that with a straight face?

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