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BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:03

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4727323-a-woman-has-been-found-guilty-of-raping-two-women

Let's see how long this stays here.

Am I being unreasonable to think that the above thread should be right here, in AIBU, rather than tucked away in the Feminism board? Reason - because a woman doesn't need to be a feminist to be affected by this issue.

Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

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ResisterRex · 25/01/2023 15:52

Scotland has the more male prisoners with a trans identity in women's prisons than England and Wales combined.

What a milestone:

Revealed: Scotland has more transgender prisoners in women's prisons than England and Wales combined as it emerges half of the inmates only began transitioning after they were convicted
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11674903/Scotland-female-transgender-prisoners-womens-prisons-UK.html

"The number of female transgender prisoners placed in women's prisons in Scotland has surpassed England and Wales after rapist Isla Bryson was convicted yesterday, MailOnline believes.

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According to a recent report published by the Scottish Prison Service (SPS), there were 11 trans women and five trans men in Scottish prisons at the end of June 2022.
Of the 11 trans women, six were held in men's prisons and five were held in women's prisons. If the figures remain the same today, Bryson and Dolatowski would take that to seven trans women in women's prisons – more than the six in England and Wales cited in a recent Ministry of Justice report.

Of the five trans men in Scottish jails, who were born female, one was held in a men's prison and four were held in women's prisons last year.

Bryson, who was Adam Graham when carrying out the violent sex attacks in 2016 and 2019, began transitioning after being charged by police. New figures emerged today revealing eight other male and female trans criminals in Scotland did the same after being convicted or remanded in custody."

BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 25/01/2023 15:58

Mariella Frostrup talks about this with Maya Forstater on Times Radio, at 09:45ish www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/show/20230125-19862/2023-01-25

Maya is excellent in this clip. I'm betting Mariella is GC.

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BordoisAgain · 25/01/2023 16:01

JellySaurus · 25/01/2023 15:48

Any wing set aside for male prisoners with a protected characteristic should be in a men's prison.

Yes.

But it won't be needed after a while as fewer males will claim a trans identity as it will no longer mean a move to the female estate.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/01/2023 16:04

I can't remember if I've already posted this on this thread, so apologies jic

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4728136-remove-violent-man-from-limerick-womens-prison

This is a Change.org petition and a different violent man to the rapist in the Scottish prison.

ResisterRex · 25/01/2023 18:31

Estranged wife of the subject warns this person "won't stop"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11676069/Estranged-wife-transgender-rapist-Isla-Bryson-warns-never-stop.html

But Labour MP says: "this gentleman should be supported”

twitter.com/timesradio/status/1618280972885057537?s=48&t=DgrxOACGjPdR7b_GZqH9KQ

blacksax · 25/01/2023 18:39

The world has gone stark raving mad. How can it be possible that a person with a fully-functioning penis, who has used it to rape women, can be sent to a prison full of potential future victims?

What kind of monumental fuckwit decided that this would be a good idea?

PSNonsense · 25/01/2023 18:56

blacksax · 25/01/2023 18:39

The world has gone stark raving mad. How can it be possible that a person with a fully-functioning penis, who has used it to rape women, can be sent to a prison full of potential future victims?

What kind of monumental fuckwit decided that this would be a good idea?

The ones governing Scotland. What a time to be alive.

OldCow1 · 25/01/2023 19:31

I've been conned

JellySaurus · 25/01/2023 20:42

blacksax · 25/01/2023 18:39

The world has gone stark raving mad. How can it be possible that a person with a fully-functioning penis, who has used it to rape women, can be sent to a prison full of potential future victims?

What kind of monumental fuckwit decided that this would be a good idea?

The fuckwits who decided women, children and vulnerable adults were acceptable collateral damage if it meant they (the fuckwits) could claim that Westminster was interfering in Scotland.

WarriorN · 25/01/2023 21:10

I love this speech on LBC earlier where Tom Swarbrick questions the sanity of anyone who can't tell which bloody prison his should be in a stonking WTAF moment.

twitter.com/lbc/status/1618284431667564549?s=46&t=RQLzpO97tuv7ugFtownF8A

Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2023 21:25

He's not mincing his words is he

Ludo19 · 25/01/2023 21:29

I'm ashamed to be Scottish. No one I know even votes SNP. It's an absolute fuckin disgrace and this case highlights how flawed the justice system is.

ILikeDungs · 25/01/2023 22:23

OldCow1 · 25/01/2023 19:31

I've been conned

It is The Big Lie. We have all been conned.

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