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AIBU in thinking AIBU is the correct place for this thread

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BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:03

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4727323-a-woman-has-been-found-guilty-of-raping-two-women

Let's see how long this stays here.

Am I being unreasonable to think that the above thread should be right here, in AIBU, rather than tucked away in the Feminism board? Reason - because a woman doesn't need to be a feminist to be affected by this issue.

Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

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FactsAreNotMean · 24/01/2023 19:30

In case anyone was in any doubt about just how comprehensively male bodied this individual is, here is "Isla" outside court yesterday.

If "Isla" is so confident displaying male anatomy while in court being tried for rape - a crime which, of course, requires said male anatomy - then it hardly seems a stretch to think they won't lack confidence about showing it in a woman's prison either.

AIBU in thinking AIBU is the correct place for this thread
Yeahrightthen · 24/01/2023 19:33

BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:03

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4727323-a-woman-has-been-found-guilty-of-raping-two-women

Let's see how long this stays here.

Am I being unreasonable to think that the above thread should be right here, in AIBU, rather than tucked away in the Feminism board? Reason - because a woman doesn't need to be a feminist to be affected by this issue.

Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

YANBU.

I am sick to death of this. Sick of people being deleted/banned for speaking the truth. MN should be ashamed.

I have had low level anger about this story all day. No one in my every day life seems to care much - I have no one to talk to about it in RL as it’s usually “oh, just let people be who they want to be!” or “yes I agree but what can you do?” Then change the subject.

I sometimes feel like I’m walking amongst the living dead. People are sleepwalking into this, mainly because they are ignorant of the facts and because it isn’t being broadcast in mainstream news.

Why isn’t everyone raging about this? Why isn’t it front page news?

We are selling our daughters down the Swanny and nobody cares.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 19:41

YANBU OP. Of course. Anyone has the right to start a thread in AIBU or Chat "for traffic" and they are frequently much more tenuous and self indulgent than this.

littlbrowndog · 24/01/2023 19:41

This is him

AIBU in thinking AIBU is the correct place for this thread
IcakedefargeIam · 24/01/2023 19:52

Sorry if this has already been posted, but this is going to keep happening, women, vulnerable woman, can't be guaranteed that intimate care will not be performed by men identifying as women. And if they complain they'll be called bigots and have treatment withdrawn. At least one woman was raped on a hospital ward by a man identifying as a woman, then gaslight by the hospital, that no 'men' were on the ward.

Please follow the link to sign and share the petition to clarify the Equality Act. Check out other threads on the petition board while you're there.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4668426-petition-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex?page=39&reply=123130057

purpleboy · 24/01/2023 19:54

I am fuming about this, I really need to hear from someone who thinks this is ok, I need to try and understand the mentality behind it, because I just don't fucking get it. Not on a single level do I understand it. How can anyone be so callous towards vulnerable women? I have 2 daughters and I feel absolutely sick with despair at what the future holds for them.
Those poor women who are going to be around this sexual predator, I can very well image the fear they are feeling tonight. Sad

DdraigGoch · 24/01/2023 19:58

Tenuouslink · 24/01/2023 18:20

YABU

Stick to naughty corner, where most have it hidden for a good reason

Given that the poll currently shows only 12% agree with you, "most" is more than a small exaggeration.

PSNonsense · 24/01/2023 19:59

Quelle surprise. My post stating anyone who thinks it's ok to house this monster in a women's prison is, not very nice should we say. Rhymes with blunt.

DdraigGoch · 24/01/2023 20:07

BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:49

This might be a good time to mention that there is a petition to ask the government to amend the Equality Act 2010 to make clear that the characteristic "sex" means biological sex. It is easy to find using Google.

There are almost 74,000 signatures at the moment. 100,000 signatures are required to force the government to consider debating this in parliament. We need that debate as, at the moment, all political parties are either captured by Trans ideology or running scared. Women's safety and dignity is at the bottom of their priorities and we need to change that.

I find it interesting to note that the signatures are primarily concentrated in Scotland, with a definite cluster in Edinburgh.

TheFairyCaravan · 24/01/2023 20:09

I’ve just read about this man. It’s absolutely disgusting. How many more women have to be put at risk?

Refreshmentsanyone · 24/01/2023 20:09

That’s a man’s version of woman. Breasts, blonde hair nails done. But cheap thin leggings so you can see the bits.

Come on. Collectively we’re worth more than a violent no hope male rewriting himself as a female. Female is not a lesser male.

Refreshmentsanyone · 24/01/2023 20:10

so you can see the bits. sorry so you can see he’s still got a penis.

PSNonsense · 24/01/2023 20:10

PSNonsense · 24/01/2023 19:59

Quelle surprise. My post stating anyone who thinks it's ok to house this monster in a women's prison is, not very nice should we say. Rhymes with blunt.

Got deleted! The viral bit cut off.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 20:11

I find it interesting to note that the signatures are primarily concentrated in Scotland, with a definite cluster in Edinburgh.

Sort of similar to the one about repealing the GRA, which is what landed us here to begin with.

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. But once you're living it and stuck with it...that's another ball game.

DialSquare · 24/01/2023 20:12

PSNonsense · 24/01/2023 19:59

Quelle surprise. My post stating anyone who thinks it's ok to house this monster in a women's prison is, not very nice should we say. Rhymes with blunt.

You obviously touched a nerve. As I said before, I thought it was perfectly put.

picklemewalnuts · 24/01/2023 20:15

I cant believe that this is what the Scottish parliament decided to use to go up against Westminster. I mean, surely it makes them look like a bunch of teenagers who threw a party while their parents went out?

It's a bloody embarrassment.

picklemewalnuts · 24/01/2023 20:16

Done, @IcakedefargeIam .

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 20:35

Quelle surprise. My post stating anyone who thinks it's ok to house this monster in a women's prison is, not very nice should we say. Rhymes with blunt.

I can guess what you said and I agree.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 20:37

So there's a C word in AIBU we can't say and another in FWR? Confused

Catonlapfireon · 24/01/2023 20:38

This is sickening- prisons, hospital wards etc… where when you’re raped they lie and say you couldn’t have been as no man on the ward.

PSNonsense · 24/01/2023 20:40

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 20:37

So there's a C word in AIBU we can't say and another in FWR? Confused

So you can't call a spade a spade but you can call a man a woman.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 24/01/2023 20:40

Tenuouslink · 24/01/2023 18:20

YABU

Stick to naughty corner, where most have it hidden for a good reason

Can you explain why you think it's OK for this person - who very clearly has a penis - to be housed in a women's prison? Or have I misunderstood?

WarriorN · 24/01/2023 20:41

littlbrowndog · 24/01/2023 19:41

This is him

Fantastic headline and images.

Came to post the dm one but that's much better.

DdraigGoch · 24/01/2023 20:43

mamacattiva · 24/01/2023 19:29

YANBU - I think a lot of people aren’t bothered because they’re “just” women prisoners at risk and therefore not worthy of protection. It’s bullshit.

I wonder if focusing on "rapists are in prison to be punished, why are we supplying them with women?" might sink in with such thinkers.

Catswhisky · 24/01/2023 20:43

I feel physically sick reading this. Having committed a (the only?) horrific crime only men can commit, not once but twice, he suddenly decided he was a woman? After he was charged of course. And the whole justice system has said “oh ok then, you’ve decided you’re a woman so you must be” and put him in a women’s prison? I can’t believe what I’m reading, even after all the toilet issues etc.

How can anybody justify putting them in a women's prison? I can’t understand how one person could think it ok let alone the whole Justice system.

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