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AIBU in thinking AIBU is the correct place for this thread

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BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:03

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4727323-a-woman-has-been-found-guilty-of-raping-two-women

Let's see how long this stays here.

Am I being unreasonable to think that the above thread should be right here, in AIBU, rather than tucked away in the Feminism board? Reason - because a woman doesn't need to be a feminist to be affected by this issue.

Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

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BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:42

At least everyone now understands what “transwoman” means, and how it differs from the notion of a “transsexual” - given that 90% of transwomen retain their penis.

The reason I would like to see threads like this here, SlipperyLizzard, is because, unfortunately, everyone doesn't yet know, and very soon they will know only when it is too late.

WAKE UP everyone

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Boomboom22 · 24/01/2023 18:42

She is still a man with a Penistone who I using confusion about gender as an excuse for rape and the whole cjs thinks this is ok. Just like the case where the man fell on top if the girl and was acquitted, or the man who went to the wrong hotel and thought it was his wife wad acquitted. Male at all or trans and rape is a ok.

Boomboom22 · 24/01/2023 18:43

Weird autocorrect there

Penis

xeraco · 24/01/2023 18:44

Wake up women please!!
So great to see this in AIBU!

Neverhot · 24/01/2023 18:44

It absolutely deserves to be on the board with the most traffic. Horrifying.

xeraco · 24/01/2023 18:46

So so so sick of these men

Cornelious2011 · 24/01/2023 18:48

We need to be shouting it from the roof tops. 6 months ago my non plussed dh thought that his feminist wife was just nit picking/ over reacting often bringing up the shitshow of the trans movement and the eradication of women's rights. Now he's sending me stories and we're both out raged. We need everybody on board with this. We need to keep ourselves and our children safe.

BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:49

This might be a good time to mention that there is a petition to ask the government to amend the Equality Act 2010 to make clear that the characteristic "sex" means biological sex. It is easy to find using Google.

There are almost 74,000 signatures at the moment. 100,000 signatures are required to force the government to consider debating this in parliament. We need that debate as, at the moment, all political parties are either captured by Trans ideology or running scared. Women's safety and dignity is at the bottom of their priorities and we need to change that.

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Ramblingnamechanger · 24/01/2023 18:50

Women must protest. This affects all of us and it is becoming clear that the thing that never happens is actually happening at an increasing rate. There is no justification in putting any man, however he identifies , in a womens prison. He will be a danger to them and the female staff who have to search home etc. just another chance for him to get off on intimidating women. And yes this and more should be in AIBU. It is upsetting, but we all need to know the reality of what is happening already in the Uk.

SoggyBananaLoaf · 24/01/2023 18:50

Hallelujah! Thank you OP

Tenuouslink · 24/01/2023 18:50

BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:32

I believe it needs to be here because many women still are unaware of what is happening, and what is happening threatens the safety and dignity of women and children.

It isn't anti-trans - it is pro-women. I believe in kindness and I have raised my children to adopt a kind approach whenever possible. But kindness is leading women by the nose into a dark place.

You can hide this thread Tenuouslink. I will respect your point of view.

Everyone else - if you don't know what this is about - read the thread I have linked and Wake Up!

You confuse not being bothered with being unaware

This is national news, and is being reported on widely.

Women are aware

Not everyone is frothing, which is what you’re really referring to

lifeinthelastlane · 24/01/2023 18:52

Frothing? Female concern and indignation is now "frothing"? Ffs

Ramblingnamechanger · 24/01/2023 18:52

So do those who aren’t “frothing” have a reason for why women matter so little?

Refreshmentsanyone · 24/01/2023 18:53

Of course it’s an AIBU.

Theres an absolute difference between sex and gender which the trans community seem happy to agree with.

Single sex means just that. Gender neutral is also what it says. Female prisons aren’t gender neutral.
I’m sure the accused will say that women attack other women so them being there is fine. I want to see a trans man get sent to male prison just to see how that goes down. Then maybe sex rather than gender will go back to be the defining separation for the appropriate circumstances - if only to keep the cost of isolating trans prisoners “ for their own safety” and in effect keeping them single sex .

BewareTheMonstrousRegiment · 24/01/2023 18:54

Frothing? Dear God!

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KatMcBundleFace · 24/01/2023 18:55

If the naughty corner involves shouting from the rooftops that women don't rape other women with their penises.... then stick me in it.

I presume this POS will end up in a women's jail?

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 18:55

Frothing. Hmm

DiddyHeck · 24/01/2023 18:56

All this patronising 'Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!' shite is exactly why some of us have hidden the feminism topic.

You're talking to grown women like they're children.

Trez1510 · 24/01/2023 18:57

YABU.

You are not looking for a sane, rational discussion as evidenced by you hyperbolic: WAKE UP everyone and Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

I'm awake. Fully awake and alert.

I don't agree with your views.

I find it tedious your, and your cohort's, relentless efforts to force (not persuade) others to your point of view.

It's like Brexit all over again. FTR, I was a remainer.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 18:58

KatMcBundleFace · 24/01/2023 18:55

If the naughty corner involves shouting from the rooftops that women don't rape other women with their penises.... then stick me in it.

I presume this POS will end up in a women's jail?

Already in one.

DiddyHeck · 24/01/2023 18:59

Trez1510 · 24/01/2023 18:57

YABU.

You are not looking for a sane, rational discussion as evidenced by you hyperbolic: WAKE UP everyone and Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

I'm awake. Fully awake and alert.

I don't agree with your views.

I find it tedious your, and your cohort's, relentless efforts to force (not persuade) others to your point of view.

It's like Brexit all over again. FTR, I was a remainer.

I agree with this and yet I do agree with the OP's views.

It's the patronising shite I can't stand.

purpleboy · 24/01/2023 19:00

Trez1510 · 24/01/2023 18:57

YABU.

You are not looking for a sane, rational discussion as evidenced by you hyperbolic: WAKE UP everyone and Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

I'm awake. Fully awake and alert.

I don't agree with your views.

I find it tedious your, and your cohort's, relentless efforts to force (not persuade) others to your point of view.

It's like Brexit all over again. FTR, I was a remainer.

Please tell me what is sane and rational about putting a convicted rapist in a woman's prison?

UWhatNow · 24/01/2023 19:01

This case isn’t just a feminist issue, it’s a whole society issue.

How a man... a rapist. A multiple rapist. A violent repulsive human being can get away with this absolute pantomime and be treated seriously in a British court of law is one of the most dystopian and scary things for women and people who care about women. When is anyone going to put a stop to the insanity?

And who is going to be the lucky lady in the female prison locked up with that horror? I’m seriously praying for them.

FredaDrainedHerCocoaCup · 24/01/2023 19:02

"Frothing and tiresome" ?????
WOMEN KNOW YOUR LIMITS !
Jesus effing Christ

PinkiOcelot · 24/01/2023 19:03

Tenuouslink · 24/01/2023 18:50

You confuse not being bothered with being unaware

This is national news, and is being reported on widely.

Women are aware

Not everyone is frothing, which is what you’re really referring to

🙄. Frothing! WTF?!

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