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To be absolutely sick to death of men shouting at me in my car but never my husband

208 replies

Wotsitone · 21/01/2023 13:02

I’m really fed up of being verbally abused aggressively when driving for any minor thing by male drivers. This seems to happen to me a few times a year. In 20 years of being married this had never happened to my husband.

OP posts:
KatherineJaneway · 21/01/2023 20:42

TheShellBeach · 21/01/2023 16:42

This has happened to me zero times in 45 years of driving........

Ah well, if it has never happened to you, it could never happen to anyone else. Oh, wait ...

Devoutspoken · 21/01/2023 20:46

Quite, its like I've never been verbally harassed by men when I am out running, but I know from mums net it happens alot

Happinessandrainbows · 21/01/2023 20:50

Chowtime · 21/01/2023 13:08

So what if she's a shit driver! The point is, they wouldn't do it a male driver.

Well, that's one big assumption. I've seen this happen to male drivers.

Fixthesinks · 21/01/2023 20:58

BethDuttonsTwin · 21/01/2023 13:12

I never make eye contact with other drivers. If they let me go I smile and nod and flash my hazards to say thank you. Never look them in the face though, just off to the side but enough to see what kind of mood they’re in towards me. Learned not to years ago when driving round a major city. There’s a couple of benefits to this approach, I don’t feel threatened and scared at being abused and they don’t get to dump their rage on me, thus leaving them to internalise it and have to carry it around for the rest of their day 😊

I do the same. Where I live it's a huge town and you get lots of hostility from impatient people. I think my driving is pretty good but I get beeped at still. My FIL would say to say a slow driver infront, "move out of the way woman"! DH would say, dad that's a woman with a beard and tattoos 🙄

PinkSyCo · 21/01/2023 21:08

I’m sure I saw this exact same post from a woman on here about a year ago. If you are the same poster OP, maybe it’s time to consider that it may be your driving to blame?

bellamountain · 21/01/2023 21:10

I dropped my DS off at a club activity a while back and there is no car park, only on street parking. I parked carefully so as not to overhang over someone's drive. I see a van pull up onto the driveway opposite, the man driving looked horrible. Anyway take DS in, only a matter of minutes and when I come back out my car has the van mentioned parked right up behind it (practically bumper to bumper). He is blocking the driveway I avoided. As there was a car in front of mine it was a real tight squeeze to get out.

Devoutspoken · 21/01/2023 21:11

It's not acceptable to give abuse to anyone gor that reason but especially not a man to a woman

bellamountain · 21/01/2023 21:15

Sorry posted too quick. Meant to say it was obviously an aggressive tactic to make it difficult for me to get out because it was 'his street'. Although with parking sensors it makes it much easier to get out of tight spots so I can't have put on much of a show. I've seen his van since always parked on the drive so he obviously has an issue with people parking outside his house. I can guarantee if I was a man he wouldn't of blocked me in like that.

ShutUpBaggyTits · 21/01/2023 21:26

I've never been shouted at by a man or anyone else while driving and I've been driving for 35 years.

Judgyjudgy · 21/01/2023 21:29

My husband definitely gets all the road rage incidents, I get none. Maybe you're a bad driver? Hmm

Chevybaby · 21/01/2023 21:43

I believe you and don’t think it’s necessarily a comment on your driving as everyone else is saying but could it be something else? Could it possibly be to do with the size/value of your car? Does he drive a bigger more expensive car? I ask this because I notice a huge difference in how much aggression I experience on the road depending on what car I drive (I don’t own a car so either borrow or hire if I need to use one). If i drive a nice hire car or my partner’s Lexus: no hostility whatsoever. If I am driving my mums Fiat 500 it’s a totally different story! I think it’s a power thing. People who don’t feel very good about themselves love to push other (perceived as weaker) people around to try to feel impressive.

This reminds me of a time a few years ago I saw a big shiny Audi pull up behind an old banger in traffic and start honking the horn about some made up BS
, really just trying to intimidate. The door opened on the banger and this enormous terrifying Rottweiler of a man, 25 stone of pure cage fighting muscle, stepped out and walked up to the Audi drivers door and invited him out to discuss what his problem was. If the Audi driver had literally sh*t himself I would not have been surprised, the look of horror on his face hiding behind his steering wheel was priceless 😂😂😂 bet he’ll think twice before doing that again

Arabellla · 21/01/2023 21:56

I get you, OP.

I’ve seen some very aggressive by men, sometimes as a bystander and sometimes as the recipient.

I was once driving behind a man driving down a narrowish road with cards parked on our side of the road. So according to the rules, he should give way to oncoming traffic as their side of the road was clear.

A woman was driving the oncoming car and instead of giving her way, he created a stand off, where he blocked the road and started screaming and swearing at her. The poor woman didn’t say a word, she just looked shocked at his behaviour.

Finally, he accelerated and drove aggressively onto the verge and then the pavement, just to avoid doing what the Highway Code says to do, which is to give way. Thank God there were no pedestrians on the pavement. When he drive off, the woman pulled up near me, and we talked about how crazy he was. Terrifying that there is that level of entitlement and hatred of women.

I have other examples too, so yes, ime, many men do see the roads as their preserve and will abuse women who use them.

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 21:58

Devoutspoken · 21/01/2023 21:11

It's not acceptable to give abuse to anyone gor that reason but especially not a man to a woman

Depends what they're doing. I do if someone has been stupid and almost caused an accident. I hate dangerous driving, some people should not have a license and drive like they are half asleep.

It sounds like OP is a bad driver if she is getting so much abuse.

Arabellla · 21/01/2023 22:01

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 21:58

Depends what they're doing. I do if someone has been stupid and almost caused an accident. I hate dangerous driving, some people should not have a license and drive like they are half asleep.

It sounds like OP is a bad driver if she is getting so much abuse.

Bet you abuse L plate and P plate drivers with that attitude.

ilovebagpuss · 21/01/2023 22:07

I notice this, not often but twice over the last few years I was "told off" by men for minor poor judgment. One at school where I parked in a spot I had previously seen a bloke park. The school bus driver made a point of telling me I was in the way for a particular turn he needed to make,I apologised and said I would move and he was really nasty about it.
I bet he wouldn't have done this to a bloke.

Another time a man felt it necessary to get out of his car and shout at me for doing what he thought was too fast a speed down a lane where I live and I know I was not exceeding the limit. I had my 2 young DD's with me and I was so angry at his cheek to berate me like a naughty child I argued back which was silly really as he looked unhinged.

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 22:08

Arabellla · 21/01/2023 22:01

Bet you abuse L plate and P plate drivers with that attitude.

No, I would never do that

JammiDodgers · 21/01/2023 22:11

ClockingTime · 21/01/2023 13:06

In over 40 years of driving, I've never been shouted at while driving by either a man or a woman.
Have you considered that maybe you're a shit driver?

😁😁😁
Yep. This . ☝️

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 22:15

Arabellla · 21/01/2023 22:01

Bet you abuse L plate and P plate drivers with that attitude.

I said dangerous drivers ie people pulling out without looking, going through red lights, texting etc. People die in car accidents, you do realise that right? My father almost did and is still affected by his head injury 40 years later so I don't just shrug it off. Some people should not have a licence.
A learner is completing different, hos bizarre of you to even jump to that conclusion 🤷‍♀️

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 22:15

JammiDodgers · 21/01/2023 22:11

😁😁😁
Yep. This . ☝️

💯

Branleuse · 21/01/2023 22:30

Coffeellama · 21/01/2023 13:38

I think this demonstrates he just shouted at whoever was in the car, because why would he shout cunt at your 8 year old daughter rather than you? Do you think the guy wouldn’t have shouted at your 8 year old son?

I dont know, but i dont think thats the gotcha you think it is. It demonstrates that men shout obscenities when driving and try and intimidate people. It has happened to me a few times, always by men, never by women. Maybe im only a terrible driver around men?
Whether im a great driver or not, screaming at other road users is a shit thing to do. Beep your horn if you need. Dont be an aggressive obnoxious dickhead.

TheFifthTellytubby · 21/01/2023 22:35

Bluekerfuffle · 21/01/2023 16:18

When someone shouts at the top of their voice, you can hear it through a closed window, just as you can hear traffic noise through your closed window.

Traffic noise is right outside, the car, though. Someone shouting in a closed car has to go through two layers of glass/chassis and be heard above engine noise and traffic noise. Unless Mr Shouty is in an open-top car or pulls alongside at traffic lights and winds the window down. Not that it's ever happened to me, thankfully.

Arabellla · 21/01/2023 22:38

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 22:15

I said dangerous drivers ie people pulling out without looking, going through red lights, texting etc. People die in car accidents, you do realise that right? My father almost did and is still affected by his head injury 40 years later so I don't just shrug it off. Some people should not have a licence.
A learner is completing different, hos bizarre of you to even jump to that conclusion 🤷‍♀️

How is it a bizarre conclusion when you’ve just said it’s ok to abuse drivers?

Jemandthehologramsunite · 21/01/2023 23:09

Arabellla · 21/01/2023 22:38

How is it a bizarre conclusion when you’ve just said it’s ok to abuse drivers?

That you'd categorise a bad driver and a learner the same. I'd never honk or "shake my fist" at someone learning to drive, but I would if someone almost crashed into me because they went through a red light

RelievedItsOver · 21/01/2023 23:39

pinkblossom123 · 21/01/2023 14:32

I haven’t RTFT but to be frank, most men people become brave within the comfort of their own vehicle. Thus, giving them this surge of confidence to shout abuse out of the window whenever they feel like it.

I’ve heard it all:

”Women don’t know how to drive”
”Women are rubbish drivers”
”Women are slow”
”Women shouldn’t operate 4-wheel drives if they can’t control the vehicle”

Etc Etc.

Now, I always try to be fair on the road. Nobody knows what another person may or may not be going through.

But God forbid a man called me out of my name whilst my husband is sitting there?! Whew!

If there are children in the car, I would just keep driving, let it go over my head, water under the bridge.

But if my children were not in the car and it was just me and my partner wasn’t present, then I’m not going to waste my time shouting obscenities out of the window.

I would emergency stop, in the middle of a bloody dual carriageway, I don’t give a damn. I would get out and ask him to repeat it to my face, in front of everyone who has also been inconvenienced by my emergency stop.

I would record it on my phone. If he calls me a derogatory term again, I’d take his number plate, I have it on video, would get back into my car and drive off.

If he says nothing and doesn’t exit his vehicle, fine.

If he tries to get physically aggressive then I would defend myself, still make sure I get that number plate and then drive to the local police station and report him for harassment and verbal abuse.

Yeah, that escalated quickly! 😄

But that’s what I would do 🤷‍♀️

Well this is just fucking stupid not to mention dangerous. I'd shout at you for that.

Whatifthegrassisblue · 22/01/2023 00:26

In the nicest possible way OP, I suspect the issue is you. If anything men are more aggressive to other men, so the fact it happens to you and not your husband is telling. And yes there are a few lunatics, but this seems to be happening to you rather frequently; as well as the aggression it seems it's not just minor things you are doing.
It might be a good idea to get some honest feedback from your DH, and perhaps brush up on those driving skills