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Teenage boys ruined my carpets - should I contact their parents?

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thecranberries · 21/01/2023 10:40

My 16 yr old DC had a birthday party last night. About 40 teenagers attending. Fine. My DC is responsible as are her friends. I went out, obviously, and came back at 11.30pm.

I found a bunch of girls mopping my wooden floor and stone kitchen floor, two girls picking up clumps of mud, one girl vacuuming up mud (ruined my Dyson as mud was wet) and various other girls using towels to wipe down what they could.

My DC told me what boys had done: they'd gone into the garden beyond the decking, despite being told repeatedly not to do so. They went into my garden shed and took out garden spade, fork and rake and just dumped them into garden, leaving shed door open. They ruined my lawn. And they'd repeatedly gone in and out - they all wear those clumpy trainers - and just spread the mud. (It's been very wet recently).

After being told many times not to do so, she finally told all the boys to leave, and as they were doing so, some attempted to filch things from my home, so DC and a few other girls checked the boy's pockets before ejecting them.

All the girls responsible, well behaved, and considerate. All the boys - led by one especially - irresponsible, disrespectful, boarish, and the lead boy - simply kept laughing when asked to behave responsibly and not rile up the others.

So, AIBU to call the parents of the lead boy and tell them exactly what their DS is like? I have to pay for my carpets and rugs to be cleaned and spend my day deep cleaning my home from debris I had not factored in rather than just the normal tidy up.

I know my DC will be extremely embarrassed at my actions, ie calling the parents of lead boy - but at the same time, I am left with an unexpected bill and extra work at a particularly time-poor moment in my week.

Just for record, all boys come from 'nice' families, and go to very good state and private schools.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:03

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 17:59

Why would I not expect 16 year olds to be responsible? They are almost adults now with legally defined independence.

are you implying all 16 year olds are stupid and naive and irresponsible? I don’t agree

So you say these large adult free parents are the norm around where you are.

and this is the first time that anything like this has ever happened. Hence your surprise at 16 year olds behaving like this?

qpmz · 22/01/2023 18:04

Teentaxidriver · 21/01/2023 10:50

Any damage is the result of your own failure to properly supervise. Your mistake, your cost.

Teens have responsibilities too. Unless they're mollycoddled.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:04

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:03

So sorry to hear about your experience.

I cleared the entire downstairs of everything apart from sofa, chairs, dining table and upstairs completely blocked off.

Where did you put it all??

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:05

And how did you block upstairs??!

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:06

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:02

of course I didn”t

and yet your OP was asking whether you should

Yes, of course I didn’t as the chat in my DC’s circle showed me they were working out the matter themselves.

what is the point of doing anything without facts?

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Bedtimeforever · 22/01/2023 18:06

Of course I would tell them. Today is mud in your house and trying to pinch things, he gets away with it and then tomorrow it will be burning down the slide in the local park (feeling salty because a park we love has had to have their slide removed as teenagers set fire to it) but yeah you get the point.

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 22/01/2023 18:07

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 17:59

Why would I not expect 16 year olds to be responsible? They are almost adults now with legally defined independence.

are you implying all 16 year olds are stupid and naive and irresponsible? I don’t agree

But your DD wasn't particularly responsible if these boys came in and out of the garden with mud all over their shoes "multiple times" before she decided to take action.

It also sounds like she didn't say anything to you (despite regular contact) until you got home to discover the mess yourself Confused

Thereisnolight · 22/01/2023 18:08

Sympathies OP. I’m guessing you genuinely thought better of your DDs friends (probably she did too) and had no idea this would happen. I know several parents in the same boat - or worse! With DCs who were upset and horrified by the way their “friends” treated their home. Lesson learned.

There are some utter twats out there who will think nothing of trashing the home of their friend and classmate who has kindly invited them (though ime much of the damage is done by gatecrashers or friends of friends). And as can be seen from this thread, there are the twattish parents who will blame YOU for their DCs behaviour. The depressing “boys will be boys” mentality which leads to so much violence and criminality.

Anyway, you’re wiser now, and so is your poor DD. Zero point contacting the parents ime. They will not care. At least one good thing is that your DD’s friends stood by her when she needed them.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:09

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:06

Yes, of course I didn’t as the chat in my DC’s circle showed me they were working out the matter themselves.

what is the point of doing anything without facts?

Including the boys in question?

these boys told their parents what they supposedly did?

GyozaGuiting · 22/01/2023 18:09

All these people saying the Op is unreasonable. No wonder these entitled pricks think they can laugh and get away with it! If my son’s did this I’d be fuming. Notice how in her Op the girls are all trying to mop, vacuum and clean up. Depressing.

thirdtimeluckyorwhat · 22/01/2023 18:10

What did you expect ? Seriously 40 teenagers that would never end well

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:11

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:32

Your DD “tells me everything”

yet didn’t feel comfortable enough letting you know during the party that it was getting out of hand.

Interesting

Yes. I checked in every half an hour. And as I was due back at 11.30pm, and the matter kicked off about 10.20ish and my DC and her friends were busy kicking them and they then started tidying up...they had dealt with it and I came back to a hive of activity of cleaning.

What point are you trying to make exactly?

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thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:14

thirdtimeluckyorwhat · 22/01/2023 18:10

What did you expect ? Seriously 40 teenagers that would never end well

Yes. 40. Most of teenagers consist of close friends and close friends of friends. I choose to trust and enable.

Why would 16 year olds not be responsible, considerate, and able to take care of themselves. The bigger issue is surely why a group of boys felt they could do this and disrespect their host and cause such mayhem and ruin a party?

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JubileeQueen123 · 22/01/2023 18:14

Why did you go out? I think you are lucky nothing worse happened. You let the girls down.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:15

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:11

Yes. I checked in every half an hour. And as I was due back at 11.30pm, and the matter kicked off about 10.20ish and my DC and her friends were busy kicking them and they then started tidying up...they had dealt with it and I came back to a hive of activity of cleaning.

What point are you trying to make exactly?

That your daughter didn’t escalate to her mother

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:16

To be clear

you are saying that the “children” your word 😂) and their parents are now fully aware of the situation

So are you saying these boys have told their parents what your DD said they did?

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:17

Why would 16 year olds not be responsible, considerate, and able to take care of themselves.

One word

ALCOHOL

and and another much less relevant but still has some relevance

TEENAGER

Thereisnolight · 22/01/2023 18:20

JubileeQueen123 · 22/01/2023 18:14

Why did you go out? I think you are lucky nothing worse happened. You let the girls down.

This is ridiculous. Why shouldn’t a teenage girl invite some classmates to her home? How was she to know how some of them would behave? (She knows now!)

Are you a parent of such a twat? Who would trash their classmate’s home, then blame HER and her mum for inviting him there?

Alcohol and teenagers is not an excuse either.

Rightsraptor · 22/01/2023 18:20

Yes, tell the boys' parents and then never let this happen again.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:20

So keen to know how you “blocked upstairs”?!

WatchingGreysAgain · 22/01/2023 18:21

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 16:26

Hello

To those who offered considered opinions, thank you.

To those who just chose to be nasty, then I wish you would simply think beyond a knee jerk reaction before proffering any opinion, especially when devoid of actual facts.

To those who just changed facts (stating my garden was dug up - it wasn't) but garden tools taken out from shed and strewn on lawn.

I never stated I wanted any money / compensation. Yes, it is more clearing up than I'd anticipated. And yes, I should suck that one up.

And for the record, the majority of teenagers invited are friends of my DC - my DC has a bunch of 9 close friends, and as is normal in my neck of the woods, they each have connection to other friends from different schools, hence their world has expanded.

To those who offered unpleasant attacks, have none of you sat down and jointly looked at TikTok/Snapchat accounts of your children? They interact with a huge group of kids they know.

This is a good thing to mix with many different people. There were a few friends of friends my DC didn't know well, but who came with a friend she trusts.

Yes, it was the boys who dragged the mud in and a couple of girls. My DC close friends all admonished them, and the girls immediately apologised and came in. The boys immediately didn't.

And the lead boy was the one who was the only drunk one. The rest had drunk, but were not boarish. It is possible for teenagers to drink and not become drunk.

I was at a local restaurant, 10 mins away from my home. I checked upon my DC every half hour and it was going well and everyone was having a good time.

Towards the end of the eve, some boys went into garden beyond decking and that is when they began to create mischief.

Why do I know this to be fact? Because DC tells me everything and we openly talk about all issues related to her life. She asks my advice on many issues, and tests her opinions on other issues by engaging in conversation.

The only reason I posted was to gauge opinion re whether I call parent of lead culprit.

If my child attended a party and was disrespectful on any level, then I'd want to know.

I feel happy about my decision to trust my DC. And this is in common with many parents in my neck of the woods. Which 16 year old wants a parent hanging about? I know I wouldn't.

Do you know, 16 year olds can get married, learn to drive, join the army etc? There are many many responsible, independent and truthful teenagers, and my DC is one of them, as are her close friends, hence she is friends with them.

And because DC, in line with her close friends, talk to their parents about everything, trust is built and there are no pitfalls to encounter.

Yes, it was unexpected that a 16 year old (just a few 15 year olds on the cusp of 16, but no 17year olds or older at the party) would be disrespectful of trashing an invite to a party.

And it was extremely surprising that only the girls were cleaning up. The boys had left by then. Partly because my DC threw out the main culprits.

But as it turned out, a few boys did actually help in the cleaning. And it turns out that in their group chat today, all of the children have 'told off' the main culprits and have even stated that these culprits would not be invited out with them again.

They are dealing with the matter in a responsible manner.

Yes, I've had to clean. More than I'd expected. But I think the reason I posted this was because I could not believe someone's child, in this day and age, would be so disrespectful. But, as I said, I didn't need to do anything about it as the group have taken care of the matter themselves.

Calling out bad behaviour is important. If it is not called out, then the person thinks they can get away with it and will never learn the proper social codes.

And for those of you who think children just lie, and to those of you who victim blamed, then I think you need to look at how you handle relationships with your children.

Teenagers (children) only lie to a parent if they feel they are not able to express themselves or do not have clear boundaries they negotiated, so they can develop their own sense of self. Negotiated boundaries , which are full of explanations as to why they exist and why they are important, are crucial because imposed boundaries, devoid of explanation, understanding and taking into account all elements of any issue, will simply lead to a child/teenager feeling they have no agency or independent thought which can lead to the most awful situations.

Thank you again to those who posted considered comments. They were useful.

I have a very mature, responsible 16 year old DD and wouldn’t let her have an unsupervised party with 40 15/16 year olds!

Just a side note, from the end of February this year 16 year olds can’t get married, maybe the government realised they aren’t mature enough for that?

rookiemere · 22/01/2023 18:21

16 year olds can do many things, but they certainly aren't allowed to drink alcohol in pubs for example ( unless it's with a meal).

There's a reason for that and honestly if that's the norm for you neck of the woods to leave 40 16 year olds alone- probably with alcohol- until midnight you're all lucky the evenings haven't ended with stomachs being pumped or worse.

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:21

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 18:16

To be clear

you are saying that the “children” your word 😂) and their parents are now fully aware of the situation

So are you saying these boys have told their parents what your DD said they did?

I have no idea what the boys told their partents. I was stating that my DC and her close feiends have open conversations of all manner of relevant issues.

Please read entire answer before posting as you seem to want to find nastingess and be unkind for the sake of some personal gratification of 'having cuaght me out' when the facts do not support your post in any shape whatsoever.

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Algor1thm · 22/01/2023 18:22

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 17:59

Why would I not expect 16 year olds to be responsible? They are almost adults now with legally defined independence.

are you implying all 16 year olds are stupid and naive and irresponsible? I don’t agree

Because they're right in the middle of their teenage years. Because their brains are still extremely immature and their frontal lobes still have a lot of developing to do. Because if you throw alcohol into that mix this biological immaturity is exacerbated. It's irrelevant what age they become a legal adult... have you seen uni freshers weeks?

I'm not implying they're ALL anything. But some (many) 16 year olds can be wreckless, selfish, irresponsible, silly, immature etc. etc. especially after a drink.

Do you really need me to tell you this? Have you met many 16 year olds? Do you remember being at school yourself?

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 22/01/2023 18:24

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 18:14

Yes. 40. Most of teenagers consist of close friends and close friends of friends. I choose to trust and enable.

Why would 16 year olds not be responsible, considerate, and able to take care of themselves. The bigger issue is surely why a group of boys felt they could do this and disrespect their host and cause such mayhem and ruin a party?

Because they're children!