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Teenage boys ruined my carpets - should I contact their parents?

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thecranberries · 21/01/2023 10:40

My 16 yr old DC had a birthday party last night. About 40 teenagers attending. Fine. My DC is responsible as are her friends. I went out, obviously, and came back at 11.30pm.

I found a bunch of girls mopping my wooden floor and stone kitchen floor, two girls picking up clumps of mud, one girl vacuuming up mud (ruined my Dyson as mud was wet) and various other girls using towels to wipe down what they could.

My DC told me what boys had done: they'd gone into the garden beyond the decking, despite being told repeatedly not to do so. They went into my garden shed and took out garden spade, fork and rake and just dumped them into garden, leaving shed door open. They ruined my lawn. And they'd repeatedly gone in and out - they all wear those clumpy trainers - and just spread the mud. (It's been very wet recently).

After being told many times not to do so, she finally told all the boys to leave, and as they were doing so, some attempted to filch things from my home, so DC and a few other girls checked the boy's pockets before ejecting them.

All the girls responsible, well behaved, and considerate. All the boys - led by one especially - irresponsible, disrespectful, boarish, and the lead boy - simply kept laughing when asked to behave responsibly and not rile up the others.

So, AIBU to call the parents of the lead boy and tell them exactly what their DS is like? I have to pay for my carpets and rugs to be cleaned and spend my day deep cleaning my home from debris I had not factored in rather than just the normal tidy up.

I know my DC will be extremely embarrassed at my actions, ie calling the parents of lead boy - but at the same time, I am left with an unexpected bill and extra work at a particularly time-poor moment in my week.

Just for record, all boys come from 'nice' families, and go to very good state and private schools.

WWYD?

OP posts:
findmybalance · 21/01/2023 20:05

MarmiteCoriander · 21/01/2023 18:57

The OP hasn't come back with any reply- despite there being 19 pages of replies- clearly a journalist!

Or she was put off by the 19 pages of people coming out to give her a good kick.

BankOfDave · 21/01/2023 20:22

As per my previous posts, the ‘hilarious’ thing is 16 years old are apparently trusted to determine whether they should be able to self identify their gender according to Nicola Sturgeon, but according to the majority on this post, 16 year olds shouldn’t be expected to behave respectfully independently and should have been supervised at all times - else it’s the OPs fault.

So which is it MN? 16 year olds can’t be expected to not disrespect someone’s house by traipsing mud all through it and should have been supervised - but are mature enough o determine they can change gender identity.

IAmTheWalrus85 · 21/01/2023 20:28

BankOfDave · 21/01/2023 20:22

As per my previous posts, the ‘hilarious’ thing is 16 years old are apparently trusted to determine whether they should be able to self identify their gender according to Nicola Sturgeon, but according to the majority on this post, 16 year olds shouldn’t be expected to behave respectfully independently and should have been supervised at all times - else it’s the OPs fault.

So which is it MN? 16 year olds can’t be expected to not disrespect someone’s house by traipsing mud all through it and should have been supervised - but are mature enough o determine they can change gender identity.

I think most MN users would say that 16 year olds are neither mature enough to change gender or be left alone at a house party with 39 other 16 year olds.

Ursula82 · 21/01/2023 21:01

BankOfDave · 21/01/2023 20:22

As per my previous posts, the ‘hilarious’ thing is 16 years old are apparently trusted to determine whether they should be able to self identify their gender according to Nicola Sturgeon, but according to the majority on this post, 16 year olds shouldn’t be expected to behave respectfully independently and should have been supervised at all times - else it’s the OPs fault.

So which is it MN? 16 year olds can’t be expected to not disrespect someone’s house by traipsing mud all through it and should have been supervised - but are mature enough o determine they can change gender identity.

I sense you think you’ve made a killer point here.

You haven’t. You really haven’t 😂

PoIIyPandemonium · 21/01/2023 21:06

Ursula82 · 21/01/2023 21:01

I sense you think you’ve made a killer point here.

You haven’t. You really haven’t 😂

I think it's a fair and reasonable point.

reddingweddy · 21/01/2023 21:59

Nothing helpful to add but this has reminded me of my own teenage years when my friend who we shall call Tom ( for that was his name) regularly threw parties in his parents big house. His parents were perfectly happy with this because they knew that once our hangovers had cleared and we had finished cleaning up, their house would be cleaner than it was before we arrived...

pigsinoodies · 21/01/2023 22:04

IAmTheWalrus85 · 21/01/2023 20:28

I think most MN users would say that 16 year olds are neither mature enough to change gender or be left alone at a house party with 39 other 16 year olds.

I won't disagree with you but at 16 I had my own flat and I was free to decide whether to throw a party or not. (not, as it happens - it was a very small flat and I was permanently skint).

Maireas · 22/01/2023 11:31

Your own flat at 16?
Blimey. I would have dreamed of such a thing! I got £2.50 as a Saturday girl and it covered bus fares and school dinners.

DaVariance · 22/01/2023 13:15

Maireas · 22/01/2023 11:31

Your own flat at 16?
Blimey. I would have dreamed of such a thing! I got £2.50 as a Saturday girl and it covered bus fares and school dinners.

Yes if you're a a looked after child you got a flat at 16 once you got booted out of a care home etc so I wouldn't be too envious of a 16 Yr olds situation at that time

Maireas · 22/01/2023 13:26

Apologies, @DaVariance
Of course I had no idea of your situation from your comment.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 22/01/2023 13:28

What did you expect?!

40 teenagers in your house?! Tbh I think you got off lightly.

SilverSpring · 22/01/2023 13:40

I’m very surprised they didn’t use the visitor slippers you’d left in a basket by the back door OP.

Very surprised…

TheBigWangTheory · 22/01/2023 13:41

You left 40 16 year olds alone in your house and went out?

You're responsible to the damage to your home. Are you insane? You're lucky it wasnt worse.

thecranberries · 22/01/2023 16:26

Hello

To those who offered considered opinions, thank you.

To those who just chose to be nasty, then I wish you would simply think beyond a knee jerk reaction before proffering any opinion, especially when devoid of actual facts.

To those who just changed facts (stating my garden was dug up - it wasn't) but garden tools taken out from shed and strewn on lawn.

I never stated I wanted any money / compensation. Yes, it is more clearing up than I'd anticipated. And yes, I should suck that one up.

And for the record, the majority of teenagers invited are friends of my DC - my DC has a bunch of 9 close friends, and as is normal in my neck of the woods, they each have connection to other friends from different schools, hence their world has expanded.

To those who offered unpleasant attacks, have none of you sat down and jointly looked at TikTok/Snapchat accounts of your children? They interact with a huge group of kids they know.

This is a good thing to mix with many different people. There were a few friends of friends my DC didn't know well, but who came with a friend she trusts.

Yes, it was the boys who dragged the mud in and a couple of girls. My DC close friends all admonished them, and the girls immediately apologised and came in. The boys immediately didn't.

And the lead boy was the one who was the only drunk one. The rest had drunk, but were not boarish. It is possible for teenagers to drink and not become drunk.

I was at a local restaurant, 10 mins away from my home. I checked upon my DC every half hour and it was going well and everyone was having a good time.

Towards the end of the eve, some boys went into garden beyond decking and that is when they began to create mischief.

Why do I know this to be fact? Because DC tells me everything and we openly talk about all issues related to her life. She asks my advice on many issues, and tests her opinions on other issues by engaging in conversation.

The only reason I posted was to gauge opinion re whether I call parent of lead culprit.

If my child attended a party and was disrespectful on any level, then I'd want to know.

I feel happy about my decision to trust my DC. And this is in common with many parents in my neck of the woods. Which 16 year old wants a parent hanging about? I know I wouldn't.

Do you know, 16 year olds can get married, learn to drive, join the army etc? There are many many responsible, independent and truthful teenagers, and my DC is one of them, as are her close friends, hence she is friends with them.

And because DC, in line with her close friends, talk to their parents about everything, trust is built and there are no pitfalls to encounter.

Yes, it was unexpected that a 16 year old (just a few 15 year olds on the cusp of 16, but no 17year olds or older at the party) would be disrespectful of trashing an invite to a party.

And it was extremely surprising that only the girls were cleaning up. The boys had left by then. Partly because my DC threw out the main culprits.

But as it turned out, a few boys did actually help in the cleaning. And it turns out that in their group chat today, all of the children have 'told off' the main culprits and have even stated that these culprits would not be invited out with them again.

They are dealing with the matter in a responsible manner.

Yes, I've had to clean. More than I'd expected. But I think the reason I posted this was because I could not believe someone's child, in this day and age, would be so disrespectful. But, as I said, I didn't need to do anything about it as the group have taken care of the matter themselves.

Calling out bad behaviour is important. If it is not called out, then the person thinks they can get away with it and will never learn the proper social codes.

And for those of you who think children just lie, and to those of you who victim blamed, then I think you need to look at how you handle relationships with your children.

Teenagers (children) only lie to a parent if they feel they are not able to express themselves or do not have clear boundaries they negotiated, so they can develop their own sense of self. Negotiated boundaries , which are full of explanations as to why they exist and why they are important, are crucial because imposed boundaries, devoid of explanation, understanding and taking into account all elements of any issue, will simply lead to a child/teenager feeling they have no agency or independent thought which can lead to the most awful situations.

Thank you again to those who posted considered comments. They were useful.

OP posts:
Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:29

So 9 friends invited

and they all invited others. With your daughters permission or were they doing it without letting her know?

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:30

And a very very very long update Op

but no where do you clarify what you actually have done ie did you or not contact the parents?

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:32

Your DD “tells me everything”

yet didn’t feel comfortable enough letting you know during the party that it was getting out of hand.

Interesting

Bemyclementine · 22/01/2023 16:32

You left them home alone. Its bad behaviour on the boys part, but you really should have been there

MoreSleepPleasee · 22/01/2023 16:32

You let all those children in your home and went out?! Yabvu.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:34

all of the children

Love you describe them as “children” OP

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:35

Teenagers (children) only lie to a parent if they feel they are not able to express themselves or do not have clear boundaries they negotiated,

but during your half hour check ups, then your DD said all was great… she presumably lied to you!!

kittensinthekitchen · 22/01/2023 16:36

I'm so glad you came back to tell us all what a good parent you are.

Bravo.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:37

kittensinthekitchen · 22/01/2023 16:36

I'm so glad you came back to tell us all what a good parent you are.

Bravo.

The irony being… I don’t think I can recall an update that more shoots the OP in the foot?l!

vaccinistatotebagchicbarista · 22/01/2023 16:43

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. Sure, there’s going to be mess when you let 40 kids into your home but I think everyone’s missing the point that these kids had a clear instruction not to go to the garden and they did so anyway. They also tried to steal property that wasn’t theirs? That isn’t “normal teen” behaviour and to say so is quite disrespectful to normal, largely responsible teens like OP’s child and the other responsible friends.

I would be contacting the parents. I know DC might be a bit embarrassed but if that was my son I’d be absolutely mortified and would want to know what he’d done. Your child will come round to the idea.

Ursula82 · 22/01/2023 16:49

vaccinistatotebagchicbarista · 22/01/2023 16:43

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. Sure, there’s going to be mess when you let 40 kids into your home but I think everyone’s missing the point that these kids had a clear instruction not to go to the garden and they did so anyway. They also tried to steal property that wasn’t theirs? That isn’t “normal teen” behaviour and to say so is quite disrespectful to normal, largely responsible teens like OP’s child and the other responsible friends.

I would be contacting the parents. I know DC might be a bit embarrassed but if that was my son I’d be absolutely mortified and would want to know what he’d done. Your child will come round to the idea.

If my son said he didn’t do this

I wouldn’t take the word of a woman I don’t know from Adam and her daughter