To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

[crinklemum2]

Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

He should be done for wasting police time as he clearly knows he is going to be worrying parents with his behaviour. If the police wont do anything, maybe the parents should deal with it themselves…

No. You shouldn’t be doing this either.

Tbf, that woman you are referring to is a witch who has upset and distressed a lot of women with her behaviour. But yes I agree with you, it’s a bloody joke.

See I know he's not breaking any laws but come on... what will the police do wait until he does! Ridiculous

He has been doing it at 3 different schools (in each school's uniform).

1 primary and 2 secondary.

Where have you read that? What a disgusting man

Surely the answer is to educate the children that people are different, but to recognise eg signs of grooming

This is how I would educate children on this:

There are some people who are different. They are blind to the abusers that walk amongst us. They are often groomed themselves, but some of them are stupid fucks who don’t understand safeguarding. There are people, like posters on MN, adults in your life, Police (especially the Met, Gwent, Leeds, Notts) all of whom will try and convince you that creeps aren’t actually creeps, men aren’t abusers, and that you’re not a victim. Fuck all of them. Look after yourselves and each other. Seek out the adults in your lives who see things for what they really are. These will usually be cranky middle-aged women who don’t give a fuck about saving men’s feelings anymore. Talk to them. Don’t trust anyone else, stand up for yourself and don’t be scared of the “bigot” label which is just a tool to silence concerns.

That’s how I would use this to “educate” children.

Surely he's being antisocial? In that most normal humans in society will find this repugnant?

This!!!!

You can 'mind your own business' by dressing modestly and saying your prayers at home, rather than deliberately doing it to shame, distress and humiliate already traumatised women and girls and health care staff trying to go about their lives.

Just like this disgusting pervert can stay at home and get his kicks in the privacy of his own house

Doing it in public is harassment and intimidation and neither one should be allowed.

We need this on posters.

This is where care in the community failed. Some people aren’t capable of being on their own and need full time supervised care

He is probably hoping to be harassed to feel vindicated that everyone else would s transphobic then he can justify his next actions

Whatever they may be

What?

The police should be asking him to move on if they can't arrest him.

How can you defend this?

Why should one man's feelings be put before 3 schools of young children. The children will think it is strange and might be scared that a man they don't know who looks like a Grandad is wearing a school uniform always hanging around the school gates.

www.facebook.com/groups/657389324732488/permalink/1650589862079091/?flite=scwspnss

Photos in the thread

Someone I know used to look after a person with special needs who needed 24hr supervision. The client had not commited any crimes but was deemed as being a high risk to children and was not allowed near them, hence he 24hr supervision.
I'm just putting this out there as an example of no crime committed but is a very high risk individual.

???

A man with the capacity to find shops that sell 3 different schoolgirl uniforms in his size choosing to wait outside school gates, to board the buses kids leave school on, to interact with those kids in even the smallest way and you want to educate those kids to be accepting of him?

FFS! When will some people start to think!?!

I'm quite surprised by some of the responses here so wanted answers to a few questions. I have a genuine desire to understand someone else's point of view and l'm not intending to be goady.

Most important question first
What is it you fear? I'm presuming this is around children's safety so what do you think he's going to do?

What do you want/expect the Police to do? Arrest him, detain him? What offence?

Would it make a difference if he was younger or didn't wear the uniform (but other teen clothes)?

Thank you

@BloodAndFire thanks. What a creep

Going to prefix this by saying that I am not a lawyer- but was interested in the law around causing Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

The public order act 1994 says (www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/154)

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.
(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the person who is harassed, alarmed or distressed is also inside that or another dwelling.
(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove—
(a)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or
(b)that his conduct was reasonable.
(4)A constable may arrest without warrant anyone he reasonably suspects is committing an offence under this section.

So; it looks like when chatting with the police; the man may have said that he did not intend to cause any distress and that his behaviour is reasonable.

I think the police should have said that his behaviour is causing alarm and distress; and if he continues to do so he may be arrested and charged under a public order offence. He could then defend himself in court and explain why he felt his behaviour was reasonable

Also mentioned in this news story. Milton Hall primary school

uk.news.yahoo.com/police-man-seen-outside-leigh-163212326.html

Are you being serious?

We used to be worried about creepy men hanging around schools. Why aren't you now?! Are you that naive?

The police should tell him to jog on.

Hard agree.

Just looked at the pictures on Facebook. Of course it's a girls uniform he's wearing.

But that’s exactly what should will happen because of the police not doing their job properly. It really does make you wonder if the higher powers in the police force are just a bunch of perverts themselves.

I’m sick to death of this shit, every day there is another story about a poor little man acting out his perversions in public and women/children have to keep quiet and suck it up. 🤬🤬🤬

His age is irrelevant.

If he were wearing other ‘teen girl clothes’, it would also be a huge concern.