To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

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Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

So, you’re saying the family lied to the police and that the police would not have asked for the GP/Consultant contact info, nor followed up on it.

Outside the school old man dresses as young girl to perform fetish infront of children.

Inside school teachers encourage preferred pronouns for non gender conforming children.

Won't anyone join the fucking dots? ......

"panties untwist?"

That is not language that women use.
Away with you, gaslighting creepy man.

Ahh so you also pretend that male and female offending is the same? That a woman is just as likely to be a pervert/sex offender as a man?

So, you’re saying the family lied to the police and that the police would not have asked for the GP/Consultant contact info, nor followed up on it.

We all see your game, you know.

I bet if it was reported that the older children were taking the piss out of him the police would get involved. A lot of teenagers aren't interested in trans rights (I have a teenager). Teenagers will be teenagers.

@DesertIslandCondiment no idea if they have money but I do know from experience that even trying to get a private appointment with psychiatrist has a three month waiting list at the moment. I was shocked by that but apparently the NHS is using the private sector to help take up the strain and that means "queue jumping" by wealthier people is not as easy as it was.

The sad fact is that mental health services are so stretched that even someone in imminent danger of taking their own life is not likely to get urgent care. There has been a well publicised case involving an autistic teenager locally that has highlighted this in a very tragic way.

Peaceful, organised protests. Outside the schools concerned (possibly not the primary school). Done daily, maybe even get the older kids involved. Make it plain it’s peaceful, though I guess you can’t regulate for everyone. Local press, hopefully they’re friendly, basically make enough noise and inconvenience for the police that they have to do something. Maybe even a police complaint that when dismissed can be taken to the IOPC. Community and coordination is the answer here.

Sorry - could be an answer here.

He should just call himself a drag queen, then he can go into the schools and read the kids some stories, teach them about inclusivity. Or, get himself on tiktok with his 'days of girl hood'. Then he won't be some sad, lonely pervert. He might even get to meet the president of the USA!

I'm trying to imagine a 60 year old woman dressing in a boy's school uniform, hanging around schools and traveling on buses at the same time as schoolchildren.

And failing.

It's not just dressing bizarrely in this case, it's a very specific form of dressing (uniform, skirt, ponytail) which is a sexual focus for many men.

So the answer to someone who is not doing anything illegal is to have a group of people commit GBH? What a twatty suggestion 🙄

(I'm not saying that what he's doing is absolutely fine, because it's not, but it isn't illegal.)

S.5 requires behaviour to be "abusive, threatening or insulting" iirc. It's hard to see how wearing a school uniform meets that test imo, at least not to the degree that would meet the CPS test of at least 51% chance of conviction.

Even if the police arrested and charged him, I reckon the CPS would probably drop it anyway.

No. I’m operating under the reports from the police having checked this man out and spoken to the family that he is mentally ill, not a pervert about to sex offend.

Mental illness affects both sexes. A mentally ill woman is just as likely to dress and/or behave bizarrely in public.

Yep and it’s fucking creepy

Are his actions perverted or not?

Are his actions likely to cause discomfort to girls, especially the ones in a confined space like a bus? Yes, as it has already happened.

you don’t spare a thought for these girls. You hammer on and on about this man.

I talked about discomfort and harassment. It’s good to trust your instincts as a girl and a woman, be weary of men, especially men who make you uncomfortable (just see the stats on male violence, rape, sexual assaults, etc).

So that you don’t get to a situation where fear is warranted. Ok?

what I said is a world away from “let’s fear the mentally ill”

And his actions are not just “bizzare”, he is not doing any self harming behaviours, etc. you talk in generalities, not addressing what this man is doing. That allows you to excuse his behaviour by lumping it with the big mass of harmless mentally ill people. This man is already not harmless, as girls have expressed feeling distressed at his behaviour. When you are going to address this point, the whole point of the issue? We’re not discussing a poor old man talking to himself on the street etc.

It’s not being handled as long as he is still allowed to wear girls uniforms near their school. The police doesn’t have the resources to monitor his whereabouts 24/7, what planet do you live on?

He needs to be prohibited from this behaviour, and parents made aware of it so the next time he does it the parents can call the police. That lives the police free to handle whatever else they’re investigating.

@FrostyFifi - well I imagine it's pretty difficult to say otherwise .If it's your family member, you aren't going to say oh yes, Great Uncle John, he's a pervert.

You are going to say he's unwell.

Are the police experts on which men are a risk to women and girls suddenly then? Are they and his family able to diagnose mental health conditions?

You asked earlier if people had ever met a paedo, I was raised and abused by one, so I have a lot of insight. Have you ever met one?

So, you’re saying the family lied to the police and that the police would not have asked for the GP/Consultant contact info, nor followed up on it.

I've given you a personal account if the police doing exactly that. The police in my case visited the family home - spoke to the rapists mother who of course confirmed her son (who was on the Sex offenders register) was no risk at all to my 16 year old DD 🙄

Your faith in the police (and perpetrators families) is sweet but very naive.

The local police and the family are more of an expert on this man than you or anyone on this thread is.

Yes

With some of them you can almost smell the Y chromosome through the screen.

Well, the thing is that the police are not a monolith hive of drones. The police that let you and your DD down, are not the same police that are dealing with this. Sort of like my MP is nothing like your MP.

I have faith that most people don’t go to work wanting to be shit at their job.

😂 yeah, just like the police are experts on their own fucking officers, right?

You didn’t answer, have you ever met a child abuser?