To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

[crinklemum2]

Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

I guess their Righteous (or should that be Right-on) mask slipped.

Innocent black and gay men were persecuted. Not fucking nonces trying to align himself with children. Jesus Christ

The amount of people making excuses for this man is horrifying. The police don’t know if he’s a danger any more than you or I - background checks don’t cut it in these situations. Just because he hasn’t any previous convictions doesn’t mean he’s harmless - think Jimmy Saville. The police don’t want to deal with a man who is dressing in women’s clothing because they know there will be a backlash by the trans lobby whatever they do.

And what other possibilities are there ? The ridiculous suggestions on here range from a father just trying to make his kid laugh, a ‘vulnerable’ person who doesn’t mean any harm, and mental health issues, which somehow don’t seem to flag up any concerns in themselves, given that he’s hanging around outside schools. FFS !!!

Yeah , the poor old white man, demonised for checks notes hanging around a primary school dressed in a school uniform and following children home

Admittedly he was a very messed up man and I don't think they are all like that but unfortunately there are way more men like that than we realise.

But but but Eresh the fully grown man in the girls school uniform tights and wig, hanging around outside the local schools and then sitting taking photos of the kids on the bus is just fine.

Nothing to see here. Honestly. Nothing. It's totally normal behaviour. Totally.

Don't you worry your pretty little head about it.

Now, any chance you could make me a cuppa! Maybe a biscuit to go with it?

There's a good lass

I have. Occam’s razor would indicate that the solution of pervert pedophile is actually just as simple as the solution of man with mental condition. As competing hypotheses go, both are equally simple and so Occam’s razor doesn’t help us here, not that it is infallible anyway nor is it meant to be used scientifically or medically but rather for philosophical thought.

Nothing incenses an incel/incel apologist more than women saying 'no'. That's why people of this ilk are monopolizing this site.

As for this:

So touched in the head, not a sexual predator. They used to lock the mentally unwell into asylums, but as they are harmless they just have them in the community and we are supposed to sort of look out for them.

'Touched in the head' isn't a great term to use about the mentally unwell.

It also serves to perpetuate the stigma. There are plenty of mentally unwell people, sometimes seriously so, who do not make a beeline for children, who don't follow them onto buses and take their pictures (which is seriously creepy, intimidatory, stalkerish behaviour), who don't hang out outside schools advertising their sexual aberrations and fetishistic dress. It does people with mental illnesses no favours to represent them in this way.

This particular bloke is behaving like a predatory, intimidatory, sexually aberrant person with a fetish and a predilection for children, because he's a predatory, intimidatory, sexually aberrant person with a fetish and a predilection for children.

That he's also mentally ill (if, indeed, that's the case) is incidental.

I think he is inappropriate. But I also do not think the police should arrest someone when they have not committed a crime.

There are reports that schoolboys were being aggressive to him on a bus at one point.

Can't say I blame them.

Look up the Public Order Act. It's been quoted several times in this thread.

Or this one

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/warning-issued-pupils-after-man-18938418

Or this one

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/school-issues-warning-suspicious-loitering-13621034

Going to stop now as it's depressing just how many stories there are of perverts hanging around outside schools.

It seems that loitering outside a school is very frowned upon. But not if you are protected by a handy umbrella.

I’d heard that it was an urban legend but wasn’t sure. Thanks for the link.

Your post is inherently racist and homophobic.

And when that reason ultimately leads to him losing control and doing something terrible, what then ? You need to ask yourself why the police aren’t taking any action, because if they really wanted to, they could find a reason under the Public Order Act. But they won’t because they know the trans lobby will be waiting in the wings and they don’t want any more adverse publicity than they already have.

It’s not that easy.

There will be many police officers who think he’s behaving completely inappropriately and some will probably have kids at that very school.

But they can’t just accuse him of a crime if he’s not actually committed one. They’d have to prove in front of a jury what crime he committed and what evidence there is.

They can ask him to move on but that doesn’t stop him from coming back as soon as they’ve gone.

I very much doubt he’d do anything more inappropriate. Most peados act the complete opposite way and do not draw attention to themselves.
He also seems quite clever in that he’s being inappropriate but not enough to commit a crime.

However, if he does step it up and start approaching the kids or flashing etc then he can get arrested and be done for a crime which will result in a restraining order and him not being allowed to loiter outside schools.

It shouldn’t have to get to the stage where he does something for action to be taken but unfortunately right now he’s not doing anything that he can be arrested for.

I’m surprised the handmaidens haven’t suggested these men are just lonely yet.

He’s harassing the girls by wearing their uniform.

the police and the people supporting this are teaching girls (and parents) they shouldn’t listen to their instincts and men who do this aren’t wannabe predators

he needs mental counselling. Because he sees he is getting away with it he will escalate, if he can. Even if it’s “just“ by exposing himself. Girls will be assaulted, either by him exposing himself or worse.

we used to put men in jail for this, here is a recent example
t.co/JWjCwLiKw5

but not since we’ve decided to cater to men and their fetishes as opposed to girls and women

the parents need to not let this go and hold the police accountable, it’s down to the parents unfortunately.

stonewall who councils and trains the Essex police will never advise them to arrest this man.

Getting away with it, tricking people, fooling people, doing it in plain sight ....it's all part of the thrill which heightens their sexual pleasure
It's about the combination of sexual pleasure with power and control, the younger and more vulnerable the victim the greater the sense of power, the younger the child the easier is to fool them and have complete control of them, turn them into a sex toy who has been trained to please the paedophile.

Your post is inherently racist and homophobic.

No it wasn’t.
They just pointed out views that were very common and unfortunately still are.

The police done more than background and records checks though? On the thread a poster said that the police have also spoken to his family and obtained medical information indicating he has MH issues and his family are working on getting him more MH treatment.

So, I’m not defending his behaviour or making excuses, I’m just going by what the police have found out and the reports regarding the situation.

To think he definitely is a pervert is to ignore all that and jump to a conclusion. The MH possibility isn’t “ridiculous” or groundless.

You forgot that if he is dressed as a female, then he must be one.

Sorry but the Dads need to man up and kick his sorry perverted arse so he never shows his face again.

Then they would be the ones to get in trouble and not be allowed to go near him and he can carry on doing it thinking he is untouchable.

You know he can both have mental health issues AND be a pervert don’t you?

What about giving him a warning? Telling him it’s inappropriate? Moving him along? Would that be okay?