To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

[crinklemum2]

Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

I would not be happy with this at all but he’s not actually committing any crime.

The police could be called to ask him to move on but it would be very low down on their priorities that it would take them a long time to come and he could just come back after they’ve gone.

He’s either trying to be funny, wants attention or has MH issues or most likely a bit of all 3.

I actually would do nothing and urge everyone to ignore him.
I feel the more he gets the negative attention, the more he’s enjoying it.

@omnitea

I 100% agree with you.

Instincts are pretty much all we (women) have left. They’ve served us well for thousands of years. They aren’t letting the majority of us down now either.

This. I mistrust anyone who tells me to ignore my unease.

The people that are saying that children don't get scared or freaked about things such as old man dressed as a school girl and men in gimp dog masks, well why are movies given ratings?

To protect them and their innocence, they are children.

You are either being very naive or due to some ulterior motive are willfully telling parents to ignore their instincts over a man who is clearly a pervert.

I have known too many people beaten to a pulp for being "different" to get on board that particular runaway train

I’ve known too many people who were sexually abused as a child to give a shit if some nonce gets beaten up.

yep! We need a name for posters like this - troll doesn't cut it as they're annoying but generally harmless. These posters are something entirely different, it's sinister and should be called out every single time.

And - Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise - because even in prison there is a hierarchy, and nonces sit firmly at the bottom. No one will ever ever ever convince me that this bullshit is ok. If it walks like a duck, and it acts like a duck…you can sure as heck believe it’s a dirty nonce getting sexual kicks dressed as a schoolgirl. And no open minded, ‘liberal’, ‘progressive’ ejit will convince me otherwise. Happy to be called a pearl clutcher, a bore, a misery, a witch, a prude and a phobe (insert any phobia you like). I could not give a toss. Come and join me you bunch of miserable old pearl clutching witches. We aren’t going down without a fight.

Because he will cry ‘trans’ and the police will come in for more criticism. Apparently we’ve now reached the point where the police would rather minimise a threat to children than risk adverse publicity.

I must admit I’m left wondering why it wasn’t a giant red flag to the school uniform supplies that he wanted a uniform to fit an adult.

Secondary schools are full of students who are the same size or bigger than adults and it would be pretty easy to buy one that fits.

My DDs school doesn’t sell the uniform at the school either, it’s through a different company where you can go and pick it up or have it delivered, so even if he was known to the school he could easily still get it.

@lemmein so many new names all saying the same thing its very suspicous indeed!

This is also my local school. It's been all over local social media. A "friend" of his family made a comment on social media saying the family have been trying to get help for his mental illness but are struggling. ( mental health service provision around here is awful as I know from my own experience of trying to get help for a family member)

I accept that the police don't believe he is a danger to kids so I'm not stressing about it.

As someone asked up threat - it is a very safe , civilised and affluent / middle class area. It's a lovely and accepting community. People are still naturally concerned about this extremely odd behaviour though.

Someone mentioned the school being "rough" when they went there 30 years ago. The school used to be poorly regarded decades ago but it's been completely rebuilt , is now oversubscribed and well thought of although is still seen as a second choice locally because of the grammar school system we have.

I have friends whose kids go there and they love it.

I just hope that all this publicity will mean this man gets taken off the streets as soon as possible and given some appropriate care for his own safety.

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You are either being very naive or due to some ulterior motive are willfully telling parents to ignore their instincts over a man who is clearly a pervert.

So what do you think they should do?

Keep asking him to leave, complaining to the school, calling the police etc?
As none of those things have worked so far.

He is obviously doing it for a reason and enjoying the attention it brings him.

Yes I completely agree. There is something very sinister about women (assuming these posters are women) defending sex offenders. It’s so out of the realms of normality you’d struggle to believe it. But we’ve been here before. There have been some particularly disgusting women throughout history who have defended, supported and even acted as accomplices to men committing both violent and sexual crimes. They are judged harshly, and despised, as they should be. History will be no different in these cases.

Surely
"the behaviour of the person involved caused the police officer (or private citizen) to believe that
a breach of the peace had or would occur"
Him getting kicked / surrounded by a bunch of angry mums is a breach of the peace by any definition?

Yes he is. His behaviour is threatening and he’s actually been taking photographs of the children and riding the school bus. The police don’t want to deal with it because they don’t want the fallout from those who will shout ‘transphobe’ if they do.

The police have rapists, sex offenders, paedophiles and violent criminals within their ranks. So I’d take what they say with a pinch of salt personally.

Trolls are far from harmless. They are not the creative writers who post silly, untrue stories online; that definition seems to be peculiar to Mumsnet. They are the original definition of the troll who tries to provoke as much angst, fear, misery and negative feeling as they possibly can for their own entertainment. This can get really serious, such as inciting self-harm.

The ones on this thread, and on many others relating to sexual abuse and cajoling women to ignore their boundaries, are either doing it for jollies (because they can, and they want to cause upset by as emotive a means as is available to them) or because they're incels (because they hate women, cannot stand being told 'No' by a female, or who want to protect their sinister shenanigans by convincing those women that it's all in their imagination or that they'll be persecuted as a 'bigot' if they do say 'No'). Either way, they are similarly getting off on bullying women.

They've been around on this site for a long time but there's an explosion of them at the moment.

The IKEA thread was indeed illuminating. If I call them the name I have in mind, it would likely be me who receives a ban. Perv apologists OK, calling them for it, not okay, women take the blame. It was ever thus.

School uniforms aren't fashion though are they? It's a uniform, it denotes belonging to a group. I think the police may have had a different view if he'd been wearing a police uniform. Do you think that would be ok? An elderly man wearing a girls school uniform outside of a school is a red flag and absolutely should be looked in to

Well he won’t find much mental health support outside of schools and on school buses with children.

There's an awful lot of hysteria and speculation on this thread. Can anyone explain the sex offending here as it seems even the police can't find any evidence? I'm minded of the pitchfork brigades who think that being homosexual means that adult men want to have sex with pre pubescent little boys. This is weird. Even creepy and perverse but it sounds more like some silly old man with mental issues making a fool of himself. Unless of course just dressing in school uniform constitutes a sexual offense in itself. If some of the people on this thread ever get called up to do jury service hopefully they will ask to be excused in case they find someone guilty of sex offending because they they used to be a Pediatrician...

It should be illegal to wear school uniform unless you are a student just like how it’s illegal to wear a police uniform or army uniform. Before you say oh I wore a school girl uniform on my hen do, there is only one reason a woman wears a school uniform and it’s not to be encouraged.

And another one...🙄

I accept that the police don't believe he is a danger to kids so I'm not stressing about it

Because the police are experts on what men are a danger to women and girls aren’t they?!