To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

[crinklemum2]

Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

So the police can stop anyone anywhere and do a stop and search based on nothing (probably because the person was black) but can't ask a perv to move away from school grounds? Well the law is well and truly fucked up then

Fucking nasty perv.

This insanity is affecting most of the western world. You could be forgiven for thinking it was orchestrated

Indeed.

Safeguarding applies both to the children in the schools but also the man who is loitering, who may be a vulnerable adult who does not have the capacity to know that his behaviour is a problem. Sometime in the future a parent may well not tolerate their behaviour and take matters into their own hands.
It should be reported to both police and social services. He is probably well known to both who should be taking action to prevent possible problems.
The whole point of safeguarding is to prevent.

Of course it's orchestrated. We didn't get to this place by accident.

Indeed, and the PP who used that term should be ashamed of themselves (but won't be, because they are an apologist for sexual offenders).

Women on this thread are aware of patterns of sexual offences, and of escalation, and are seriously questioning why police - our supposed law enforcers - are allowing this behaviour to go unchecked.

Lynch mobs - that PP presumably knows who they are, what they did, and why they did it. To equate that to an online discussion of a situation involving safeguarding of people KNOWN to be at risk from this specific group (in this instance, men) is not only a false equivalence but a shocking misappropriation of a hideous, racial persecution.

Again, equating any objection to gender ideology with racism is a tactic the MRAs are well-versed in.

As seen above, there are no depths to which they will not sink. We see it. And we see you.

This is where chanting mantras like Be Kind and Trans Women Are Women! get you. Fetishistic behaviour in public, related to children, and no way to put a stop to it

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1597141631446106112?s=20&t=YtoOhgMwZ1zURKKZV5QtNQ

Bugger posted too soon fat fingers 🙄

This is not representative of the "fetishis community" as a whole and would be regarded as wrong and inappropriate and that the perpetrator needs to be removed and given whatever support they may need and given a thorough talking to about the fact they are making children and parents uncomfortable and feeling threatened. They should be stopped.

Perhaps the joyful embrace of drag queen story time has made boundaries way too blurred - drag artists I know have vocalised their displeasure at the concept themselves - drag is adult entertainment and not suitable for children who don't yet have a firm idea of their sexuality and should be allowed to develop in their own time without unnecessary influence x

There is a real risk of collateral damage to a community which by and large quietly does their own thing being lumped in with those seeking to sneak the P into the alphabet soup.

But primarily, the safeguarding of children is the absolute top priority at all times. And this is without doubt a failing in that department by the authorities.

Sweetleftfood
The law is messed up when you can be moved on or even searched for simply being a teenager in a place known for other teens displaying antisocial behaviour, but not a man dressed a school girl who is targeting several schools.

But the when you look at how many misogynists there are in the police, the poor conviction rate for sexual offences and violence against women and girls, and it's hardly surprising. There are too many men who view women and children as acceptable collateral damage for men's perversions.

Putting trans before children. Awful.

I must admit I’m left wondering why it wasn’t a giant red flag to the school uniform supplies that he wanted a uniform to fit an adult.

The police demonstrating for the nth time just this week that they can't be trusted to do the bare minimum to keep people safe.

This.

Try reporting that he's a black school girl with marijuana on her. The police might strip search then.

We were getting somewhere and men don’t like it. It’s as simple, as that
Yep, they hate it and are doing everything they can to crush and subordinate us, but we worms are out of the can, we have grown too big and we will NOT be stuffed back in, we will wiggle where ever we want to😁

Police innit?! They protect their own (perverts).

Not of normal criminal element. Nonce.

This thread (like the IKEA fetish thread, and others referencing non-consenting victims) is indeed eye-opening. Even if the usernames aren't necessarily familiar, the arguments 100% are. The minimising, swerving, goal-post moving, look-at-the-squirreling, whataboutery, but above all BeKind and Ignore Your Boundaries.

It is worth reminding any MNers who are perhaps worried (after reading some [very prolific] posters on this thread) that their initial horrified reaction is just too prudish/hysterical/pearl-clutchy/unkind/bigoted... MN is a public site and some of your fellow BeKind "mums" might be, well, polishing their knobs halos.

So fetish stuff isn't my thing but what adults choose to do in private with other consenting adults in their homes or at their clubs is their business. What is a problem is the normalisation of the open expression of fetishes in public where non consenting people especially children have to witness it or are forced to engage with it in some way. That isn't right and emboldens the wrong people to go further.

As has been noted before, he claimed the skirt was for his granddaughter. And as I've previously pointed out, our local school uniform shop sells school skirts up to waist 33/34 inches.

One (the only?) shop did ban him once it found out about his behaviour.

I have known too many people beaten to a pulp for being "different" to get on board that particular runaway train.

It's not "different" to hang around three schools wearing their girls' school uniform. It's male sexual fetishism. Give your head one hell of a wobble, and stop enabling creepy men to get near children.

Haven't read the full thread, but why can't they prosecute this pervert under Section 5 of the Public Order Act?

Yes they've got each other's backs because they all want to stay on the gravy train, keep getting away with it

Why are you making excuses for this man ? Do you really think an adult male going to the trouble of sourcing the female uniforms of not one, but three schools in an adult size and then hanging around outside, riding the school buses and taking photographs of the children can be considered ‘vulnerable’. He’s been reported to the police who say he’s not a threat. Well they would wouldn’t they ? If they move to take any action all he has to do is scream ‘trans’ and there will be a storm of accusations brought down on their heads. This is what you get when you allow the vocal minority to try to bully the rest of us into accepting that these things should be ‘normalised’. A man getting his jollies in public, safe in the knowledge that however much of a threat he poses, he is virtually untouchable. Or so he thinks. Because if the police can’t touch him until he does something terrible, the parents of the students at those schools may well not be prepared to wait until that happens.