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AIBU?

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4th baby at 43?

246 replies

Ctu24agent · 19/01/2023 21:35

Ok, so I’m fully prepared to get roasted here, but before you do, please hear me out!

We have 3 gorgeous kids (15, 7 and 1) I’m 43, hubby is 56. Both in good health. We’ve always wanted a large family, but for one reason or another… it didn’t happen easily. Hence the large age gaps.
(D7 has autism)

In an ideal world we would LOVE another one.

AIBU to try for another? We can afford another child, but are we too old?
I've gone backwards and forwards with this. Hubby is 100% for another.

wwyd?
yabu… you’re too old
nbu.. go for it, age is a number!

OP posts:
WitchesCauldron · 20/01/2023 13:24

At the end of the day if you want a baby that longing wont go away and you may well regret it if you dont. But go into it eyes open about your ages and the stresses ( and joy) a new bubba will bring !
I had two and wanted a third. Husband not keen. I wish I'd pressed the issue now I have creaking menopausal ovaries !

LaLuz7 · 20/01/2023 13:29

Wiluli · 20/01/2023 12:23

Selfish ?? To who ? You for not fitting your ideal of a family ?

Uhmmm to the kids...? Worrying about your parent's health deteriorating and you becoming an orphan before you're 25 is an unkind burden to place on a kid. How do you think it feels to be 17 with an mid 70s dad?

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 13:32

@WitchesCauldron Nearly everyone seems to get broody just before menopause even if they know it would be a bad idea. It seems to be largely hormonal.

Wiluli · 20/01/2023 13:37

LaLuz7 · 20/01/2023 13:29

Uhmmm to the kids...? Worrying about your parent's health deteriorating and you becoming an orphan before you're 25 is an unkind burden to place on a kid. How do you think it feels to be 17 with an mid 70s dad?

Most people live well into their 80s these days . I have friends whose parents were around that age ( best friends dad was 69 when she was 16 , and only passed away 2 years ago when she was 38 and was very heating and traveling until he died ) On the other had 2 of my youngest daughters friends just died at 36 and 27 from cancer . Point is , unfortunately it can happen at any time and not always age determined unfortunately .

SpentDandelion · 20/01/2023 13:43

No, l think it would be a lot easier on everyone in your family if you kept things as they are.

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 13:47

@Wiluli Average life expectancy for men is 79. That does include deaths in infancy, so 80 or 81 years old. Some people live a lot older. But the older people get they are more likely to have issues like dementia.

4thonthe4th · 20/01/2023 13:49

SpentDandelion · 20/01/2023 13:43

No, l think it would be a lot easier on everyone in your family if you kept things as they are.

This.

Im not against big families in any way; I’m one of 4 and I’m pregnant with my 4th, but I think you and especially your husband are too old and there are too many associated risks involved for this to be a good idea. You have quite large gaps so I imagine that will make things even trickier as they all grow, too.

butterfliedtwo · 20/01/2023 13:51

LaLuz7 · 20/01/2023 09:05

No, that's not all that matters. Kids need resources in the form of individual time and attention, emotional availability and patience and money.

Each additional kid stretches all these resources even thinner. There are only 24h in a day and only two parents, no matter how well intentioned you are.

Not to mention special needs in one kid.

Maybe the 1 year old might also be autistic.

Maybe the new baby would be disabled.

Majorly selfish to put broodiness over the best interest of your existing kids.

I really agree with this. Love absolutely isn't all that's needed to raise a child, let alone three or four.

Henbags · 20/01/2023 13:53

It's more the concern of 56 year old sperm. Also, how long would you try for? If it took time, you might not have the baby until you're approximately 45 for example.

Bottom line is, it's your choice.

xogossipgirlxo · 20/01/2023 13:59

No one can tell you not to. If I were you, I wouldn't go for it due to autistic son. It might be hard for him to adjust? Although I don't know how serious his condition is. It's your decision, at the end of day. Whatever choice you make, good luck X

Chocolateyshakes · 20/01/2023 14:00

I had my 1st at 41 (almost 42). DD is now 4.5. I'm now 46. I struggle mainly with tiredness. I wouldn't want to start all over again at 43 in all honesty, but everybody is different. A friend of mine had her 1st at 45 so we are all different.

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:00

Autism describes such a wide range of needs though. From someone non verbal to someone who has fairly minor issues.

Kardelen · 20/01/2023 14:03

Definitely. Have been that child, and still am. It’s very difficult…

dogdaydown · 20/01/2023 14:04

No I think your DH is too old IMO.

I'm the child of older parents, it wasn't good.

No way at 74/75 could your DH parent a 4th 18 year old like he did the first.

bert3400 · 20/01/2023 14:08

I had my 4th at 43 . Im now 55 and I'm sick to the back teeth of the school run, the battles to get a teenager up for school, and all the other stuff I've been doing for 30+ years ( my eldest is 33) when some of my friends are thinking about retirement. I would not change our child for the world, he is hilarious, kind and an utter joy, but it's still relentless...so seriously think about it .

LaLuz7 · 20/01/2023 14:08

Wiluli · 20/01/2023 13:37

Most people live well into their 80s these days . I have friends whose parents were around that age ( best friends dad was 69 when she was 16 , and only passed away 2 years ago when she was 38 and was very heating and traveling until he died ) On the other had 2 of my youngest daughters friends just died at 36 and 27 from cancer . Point is , unfortunately it can happen at any time and not always age determined unfortunately .

Are you seriously equating the risk of dying in your 30s to the risk of dying in your 70s or 80s? Neither or those risks are exactly zero, but one is considerably higher. And to write that off under the assumption that "you could get hit by a bus tomorrow anyway" is incredibly silly. There's no guarantee you'll be around to see your child grow up at any age, but you are sure minimising those odds when you choose to have those kids at almost 60....

Ctu24agent · 20/01/2023 14:10

Spck · 20/01/2023 13:19

If you only got financially stable recently what would happen if anything happened to your dh (I’m assuming he’s the breadwinner). This really is madness.

It was after my second child was born that we became financially stable. The delay having our third was due to seeing how our second would be after his diagnosis.

OP posts:
WineDup · 20/01/2023 14:16

Spck · 20/01/2023 13:19

If you only got financially stable recently what would happen if anything happened to your dh (I’m assuming he’s the breadwinner). This really is madness.

Why would you assume he is the breadwinner?

LaLuz7 · 20/01/2023 14:23

WineDup · 20/01/2023 14:16

Why would you assume he is the breadwinner?

How many stay at home dads do you know? Or part time worker dads?

3 kids is a hit to any career and it's currently predominantly women who take that hit. It's a rational guess based on statistics...

WineDup · 20/01/2023 14:26

LaLuz7 · 20/01/2023 14:23

How many stay at home dads do you know? Or part time worker dads?

3 kids is a hit to any career and it's currently predominantly women who take that hit. It's a rational guess based on statistics...

My own partner has been both a SAHD and worked part time. Also, both parents may also work full time, as is the case in most of my social circle.

YouSoundLovely · 20/01/2023 14:31

I know the joke is that someone's definition of a large family is the number of children they have + 1, and I'm going to fulfil that cliche now (I have three, with a fairly large age gap between the second and third), but honestly, OP, I would see this for what it is - your hormones trying to egg you on to a last hurrah, combined with that the Germans call the 'panic of the closing gate' - and quit while you're ahead. At your ages, no. 3 was also quite bold roll of the dice, tbh. We were 37 and 39 when we conceived our last and I'm not sure I'd have been very comfortable with being much older than that, particularly as we also suffered recurrent mc.

YouSoundLovely · 20/01/2023 14:31

*what the Germans call...

Dora33 · 20/01/2023 14:33

I think uwbu due to your husbands age and you will already have a child who will be 10 when you are 52 and your husband 65. Your child with autism will be 16.

One of relatives had a child in their mid 44s with an older husband. They already each had adult children.
Once the child was active and wanted to just even play football in the garden, the husband or my relative weren't up to it for longer than 5 or 10 minutes.
Instead they were lucky that sometimes their older adult children would do activities with the younger brother. His dad just wasn't able. Of course many 60 year olds are healthy but the exercises we might choose to do at that age, can be very different to the repetitiveness of doing stuff with children.
Cant imagine how they would have coped with a 2nd younger child .
Also your child with Autism will likely need time and support going through their teenage years.

Lurkinginthemnshadows · 20/01/2023 14:37

TheVanguardSix · 20/01/2023 09:50

I wouldn’t. I too had a one year old baby with a 56 year old husband when I was your age. I get it! But…
He’s 56. You’re 43. You’re entering the age where your good health can pull a fast one, believe me!
What else is in life’s menu?
Focus on what is real and present.
At a certain point, we must accept the truth that the things you want in life you have to really need.

3 is the magic number. Enjoy your children and don’t get lost in the wishing well. You’ll miss what’s right in front of you.

I agree with this poster.
Head over heart.

whereisthis · 20/01/2023 14:39

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 12:34

Perhaps you are right. But I also know as I get older I do have less energy. I live an active life anyway, but the change does creep up on you and it does take more willpower to be as active as I used to be naturally. And it is scary seeing people your own age dying. And not the people you would choose would die if you had to guess when younger.

Quite.