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Wwyd overheard office bitching session

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WhaleTanker · 19/01/2023 19:44

I work in an office. I am at the top of the management structure in our office, along with 6 other people who are the same level as me. I am the newest member and only female in this group.

We each have our own projects going on which we manage independently of each other, and then there are some office level projects, staff management, recruitment etc that we all do as a group. We are all accountable to central management which is located in another office, but we are not activley monitored by anyone because we are basically at the top level ourselves.

4 of the 6 leaders decided to have a very bitchy and nasty conversation in an open space in the office about me. I was just around the corner eating my late lunch. I heard every word. it was about 10 mins long. Anyone else could have heard it too, although to be fair I am not sure there was anyone else. Beside the point, anyway.

I am so hurt to hear those things. My heart was beating so hard, I felt sick and I was trying to decide whether to make my presence known and go for confrontation. They dispersed just as I had decided to move and thereby let them know I was there.

What do I do now? Let them know I heard their conversation?

What they did was awful. Had they done it privately, I wouldn't know about it. I am not saying people can't talk about colleagues, obviously they can and do. Just that it sgould a) be more constructive/professional and b) shouldn't be in an open, public space where others can hear. Or do the adult thing and tell me to my face they have a problem so it can be addressed. What they were saying was just nasty stuff and not an actual thing I have done wrong.

If I confront them, it will be horrible and possibly make things worse. Not sure I have the strength to go through massive amounts of confrontation. One of the people in particular is someone who resolves issues through open combat (perhaps that is the best way?). I shy away from conflict if I can.

Or do I say nothing and carry on with festering resentment and hurt?

There are 2 leaders who were not part of this. I don't want to start getting "sides" going. Do I somehow involve them? How?

HR is an option, but in the office structure, we the leaders are basically above them, so it would have to go the the HR person in Central management. That will cause world war 3.

This behaviour needs calling out, I know that. If I as a senior person can't call it out, how can the junior people be expected to speak up.

But how do I do it?

OP posts:
Cococomellonn · 23/01/2023 09:30

Sounds like a really good outcome that someone else heard as you don't have to do anything and also it potentially looks worse that others overheard too.

Jezzz · 23/01/2023 17:28
  1. Make a note of the conversation and keep it as a record in case anything related arises in the future
  2. Make an apointment with your boss to discuss something personal
  3. The day before the appointment send your boss a copy of your note, making it clear it is or their information only and you do not believe any action is necessary but you would like to discuss it
  4. At the meeting, describe all the positive aspects you have done or influenced relating to the points your colleagues made. Make it clear that if these points arise in future discussions, you will want to respond strongly but constructively; and it's therefore important (s)he understands the background
CustardySergeant · 23/01/2023 17:30

WhaleTanker · 20/01/2023 09:38

Thank you all again for your thoughts.

I had a call this morning from someone at head office. It appears I wasn't the only one to hear, and the other person who overheard it reported it, including that I was sitting around the corner and may have heard. I haven't been told who it was that reported it, but I confirmed that i heard it all.

The 4 have been spoken to and apparently are mortified.

I don't know what will happen from here. It's out of my control which is partly a relief and partly a bit scary.

I will carry on as normal for now, I think and see what Monday brings. I am wfh today.

How did it go today, OP?

DancinOnTheCeiling · 23/01/2023 20:33

How are you @WhaleTanker?

Fightingbackwithhappiness · 24/01/2023 13:20

How did you get on OP?

CountessWindyBottom · 24/01/2023 20:49

It really restores my faith in human nature that someone had the decency to recognise this shocking behaviour as both abhorrent and unfair and furthermore, to go and report it. The next steps decision is very much out of your hands. In all honestly it sounds like they are insecure and jealous....how pathetic. Keep your head held high! I hope today went well. 🌻

Canthave2manycats · 25/01/2023 19:31

@WhaleTanker would love to hear how it played out!

TheRAW · 04/02/2023 16:09

I am sorry this happened. Curious, how did u make it to the top of the management chain without any experience with this political nonsense? I find that unusual.

If they are talking in the open they are simply feeling free to say what is already said in private. Your question though was about whether to confront, to wit not enough information was provided (was it about petty things or critical things?).

That said - what I would do is employ some passive aggression. Over the course of severals days/weeks I would let them know I heard what was said, that I'm "honored" they think about me so much they created a fan club to talk about me all the time, and that I dont care what they have to say just spell my name right. (At least one of the four will only hear the word "honored" and will be the first to laugh That person is the dumbass who talks about you the most).

Good luck.

Ledwood85 · 06/02/2023 19:04

Any update, @WhaleTanker?

WinterDeWinter · 29/12/2023 18:41

@WhaleTanker there was another thread about an overheard conversation today and I thought of you. How did it all pan out?

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