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That schools should not be telling children they are born in the wrong bodies?

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WandaWomblesaurus · 18/01/2023 08:44

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11646881/I-asked-daughters-teachers-not-call-boy-reported-social-services.html?s=08

This is so alarming now - just how many children do we think are born in the wrong bodies?

Is this not now just science fiction?

YABU - Rainbows are magic

YANBU - It's brainwashing. No child is born in the wrong body and schools must be held to account.

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dolor · 18/01/2023 08:53

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WandaWomblesaurus · 18/01/2023 08:56

Why is it hate to question why so many children think they have been born in the wrong body? And to think this is a safeguarding issue given that so many of them are autistic? Did you read the article?

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fUNNYfACE36 · 18/01/2023 08:56

Yabu.The school are going along with using the name and pronouns the child prefers.Do you not think they should do this?

SeenAndNot · 18/01/2023 08:56

You are deliberately misleading.

Article makes it clear the child wanted to transition. The problem is the school not telling the parents - which is a huge issue yes, but not the same as the school telling the child they are in the wrong body.

DealOrNoelsDeal · 18/01/2023 08:57

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/01/2023 08:58

If a school told or even agreed that a child with a physical disability was ‘born in the wrong body’ , they would be rightly excoriated, possibly prosecuted. But a child with no physical signs of any anomaly is confirmed to be in the ‘wrong’ body - although this is so tenuous that it has escaped the attention of the child’s parents .

Go and mangle your own body. Leave the kids alone.

onyttig · 18/01/2023 08:58

fUNNYfACE36 · 18/01/2023 08:56

Yabu.The school are going along with using the name and pronouns the child prefers.Do you not think they should do this?

The Cass report makes it clear that schools should not be doing this without expert medical oversight.

And they certainly shouldn’t be doing it without parental consent.

PoIIyPandemonium · 18/01/2023 08:59

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WandaWomblesaurus · 18/01/2023 09:00

Socially transitioning a child is not a neutral act. By affirming a child's identity crisis at school, the school is actively socially transitioning the child.

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SeenAndNot · 18/01/2023 08:56

You are deliberately misleading.

Article makes it clear the child wanted to transition. The problem is the school not telling the parents - which is a huge issue yes, but not the same as the school telling the child they are in the wrong body.

How is it different? What is gender identity?

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WandaWomblesaurus · 18/01/2023 09:02

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Hide the issues.
I get it.

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/01/2023 09:04

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It's not trans hate. It's child safeguarding.

roarfeckingroarr · 18/01/2023 09:05

YANBU. It's choir abuse.

WandaWomblesaurus · 18/01/2023 09:05

fUNNYfACE36 · 18/01/2023 08:56

Yabu.The school are going along with using the name and pronouns the child prefers.Do you not think they should do this?

The school are not just "going along" - they are actively transitioning the child and not telling the parents.
Are you ok with this?

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ZestFest · 18/01/2023 09:05

OP your concern is completely legitimate. I'm lucky because my son's school don't buy into this nonsense. I have reported the hateful replies

Darkoutsideclosethecurtains · 18/01/2023 09:05

YANBU

roarfeckingroarr · 18/01/2023 09:06

Child abuse. Not choir.

onyttig · 18/01/2023 09:06

Or have we reached some weird point where teachers are allowed to make these sort of decisions?

What else should the school be deciding for parents, and with no expertise if understanding of the complexities of the issue?

Teachers have a limited skill set. That’s not a criticism. It’s a positive thing. They are specially trained to teach - and to teach particular things. Social transition of children is way beyond their competency. Schools have no business doing this.

it doesn’t matter that it gender. Or if you are pro genderism. Or whatever. It’s not ok for schools to intervene in matters way beyond their expertise.

AlisonDonut · 18/01/2023 09:06

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This is how we got here. People who can't answer questions wanting the 'feminists' to chit chat about the promotion of this ideology, which results in the sterilisation of kids who are mainly gay, autistic, in care or are non conformist until it is too late.

Meanwhile kids are fed this utter baloney and taking strong drugs previously used to castrate rapists and everyone rainbow washes it in 'inclusivity'.

roarfeckingroarr · 18/01/2023 09:07

@ZestFest how did you find a school that doesn't encourage gender identity bollocks? I want the same for mine but no idea how you check.

DFSsale · 18/01/2023 09:08

I would be furious if a school hid something so important about my child. Surely parents have to take the lead on how to manage gender distress in their own children?
Schools should be supportive of the family not going against them.

onyttig · 18/01/2023 09:08

Are people happy for schools to decide that their vegetarian children should eat meat? And to lie to the parents about it. To collude with the child against their family?

Because that would actually be a far less worrying form off school overreach. But they’d be condemned on MN.

Yet transitioning your child seems to be totally fine for some people.

NoWrecksToday · 18/01/2023 09:09

Of course this is wrong and goes against all current guidelines for schools.
As a school governor I’d be making sure the school adhered to safeguarding measures for all the children, no exceptions and no excuses.

TheKeatingFive · 18/01/2023 09:10

Of course you are not BU OP, it's a truly shocking situation we've found ourselves.

Yet constantly, repeatedly there is pressure to shut these conversations down or hide them in the naughty corner.

Why is that? Whose agenda is that facilitating?