That schools should not be telling children they are born in the wrong bodies?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11646881/I-asked-daughters-teachers-not-call-boy-reported-social-services.html?s=08

This is so alarming now - just how many children do we think are born in the wrong bodies?

Is this not now just science fiction?

YABU - Rainbows are magic

YANBU - It's brainwashing. No child is born in the wrong body and schools must be held to account.

This is really not all that different to kids realising they are gay. If, say, 5% of adults are gay, then it follows that about 5% of kids will grow up to be gay. Some will realise at an early age and some will not. Of those who do realise, some will come out early and some will not.

But we're not just talking about 'coming out' as Trans.

We're talking about Socially Transitioning children who think they might be trans.

Social Transitioning is not a neutral act. It can be immensely hard to row back from if they decide they aren't trans after all.

Percentages of children who think they might be trans has rocketed, far, far in advance of your 0.5%. This most heightened in certain groups; autistic girls, children in care, gay children, children who've been sexually abused.

So should teachers, totally unqualified in this area, be putting these children on path that we know can be detrimental? Or should we be giving these children counselling and support to understand what's driving their perceptions of themselves?

If this continues I can see less women ever wanting children!! It would put me off now that's for sure what with all the safeguarding being removed not to mention parental rights.

Being trans isn't a mental illness though

Dysphoria is a mental illness though.
If no dysphoria what is 'trans'?
Clothes? Presentation? Inner woman/man essence?

You can't be the opposite sex, only mimic it.
It's also non comparable to being gay, which is sexual orientation. Because you don't need to be medicated or have surgery to be gay.

If trans was an innate human condition and not a mental health issues then no drugs or surgery would be required would they?

Exactly this - and no one can as yet define what gender identity is!

Being trans isn't a mental illness though.

Are you sure? So why do they request surgery based on the fact that is causing mental problems? For someone to want to cut their penis off or change their vagina, I'd say that's a big mental issue.

Exactly this - and no one can as yet define what gender identity is!

Yep. No one can ever actually define what being a woman is. YANBU OP.

Sinister. Women know your place!

@Margarita45
So what makes it ‘easier’ or more comfortable to speak to a teacher/a school adult and transition with a group of peers? Genuinely intrigued as this would seem like the opposite of my generations approach.

I wonder in some cases if it is that the parents might ask ‘tricky’ questions like “what does it mean to live as a boy” or even “what is gender identity?”

The teachers who are on board with this just agree that “yes, you can definitely be born in the wrong body and may need to take powerful drugs to alter your body to fit your self image” whereas some parents might voice their concerns about their kids going down a route that could end with them becoming sterile and going through menopause in their teens and developing osteoporosis.

Sinister. Women know your place!

In the corner, hidden away so no one can protect womens rights. God forbid these discussions remain in the general area.

My daughter tells me that at her school (in Australia) you can change your preferred name and pronouns just by visiting the office and filling in a form. I find it pretty offensive that policies are based on the assumption that children need protection from ‘abusive’ parents. The friends that DD has told me about who have kept it a secret actually have quite progressive parents and I think in those cases it’s more about teenagers enjoying the secrecy than any fear of family reprisals.

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It all seems very sinister. We have kids waiting years to see MH specialists - many on the 'pathway' waiting forever for an ADHD/ASD diagnosis, but anything gender related seems to be treat with the utmost urgency - why? To speak against it is met with accusations of bigotry and transphobia - even on here, a parenting forum a poster expressing concern is told to piss off to the feminism board. Who is protecting children? Why is this deemed a feminist issue and not a safeguarding one?

It reminds me of the Asian grooming scandals - how those who should've been protecting vulnerable girls kept quiet in fear of being called racist. Everyone is so scared of being called transphobic that they're falling over themselves to tell the emperor 'she' looks so cute - it's baffling. It needs to stop.

When did you become a mysoganist?

YANBU

anything gender related seems to be treat with the utmost urgency - why? To speak against it is met with accusations of bigotry and transphobia - even on here, a parenting forum a poster expressing concern is told to piss off to the feminism board. Who is protecting children?

Exactly. Why is this?

We need to all start asking ourselves whose agenda is being served here?

Yes but adolescents can be a confusing ,time some people .may be.uncertain about their sexuality during adolescence and may experiment with boyfriends and girlfriends ,all.of which can be normal ,and at some point may decide they are gay ,Bi,straight of whatever
the difference with transitioning is you can end up.taking medication,having surgery that will.change your body for ever what if you then realise that you were never Transexual and just a confused teen?

You are not being unreasonable. I am 21 and the amount of young people I know falling for this trend is far more than people over 40 think it is. A lot of people don't care to tak about this because they think it will never effect them/their family and they don't want to be called an evil bigot who spoils the fun

I find it pretty offensive that policies are based on the assumption that children need protection from ‘abusive’ parents

It's extremely offensive. If there are safeguarding concerns around parents that teachers have observed, they need to raise them in the standard way. If that's not the case, they can't just go off on a solo run and socially transition a child on the assumption that the parents are somehow abusive.

Mysoganist?

How exactly is a concern for children's welfare misogynistic?

Do you know what misogynist means?

What I find interesting is that supposedly kids who think they are trans have a high suicide rate, and yet the parents are not informed.
Isn't that a bit dangerous, not letting parents know that their kid has a high chance of suicide?
If it was due to anything other than trans I can guarantee the parents would be notified.
In case anyone wonders, there is very little actual proof of a high suicide rate amongst trans people, the studies are flawed but clung to by TRAs
www.transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-myth/

Luckily my autistic DD (who likes 'boys stuff') is GC for herself too @DoggyDwelling , she seems to have bought into the gender stuff when it comes to others though.

She has been 'misgendered' by her peers more than once who have tried to suggest she is he/him.

the difference with transitioning is you can end up.taking medication,having surgery that will.change your body for ever what if you then realise that you were never Transexual and just a confused teen?

This is it in a nutshell.

I went through puberty early, had DD cup breasts at 12. Of course I felt uncomfortable in my body and if someone had been around then to suggest I'd be happier 'as a boy', I might well have believed them.

You responded to the shut up woman comment. That didn't copy !