That schools should not be telling children they are born in the wrong bodies?

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This is so alarming now - just how many children do we think are born in the wrong bodies?

Is this not now just science fiction?

YABU - Rainbows are magic

YANBU - It's brainwashing. No child is born in the wrong body and schools must be held to account.

This is a good point but if the school genuinely thought that the parents were abusive there are specific safeguarding processes they have to undertake.

Facilitating a child keeping secrets from their parents is against all safeguarding rules and undermines the parent/child relationship in an unacceptable way.

If they suspected the child was anorexic or self harming they would have to involve the parents as standard as they have a legal parental responsibility for the welfare if their child. Why is this different?

YANBU. Affirming mental illness is not going to end well, as the Cass report has pointed out. It is the opposite of hatred to want to protect children from this. There is no such thing as "being born in the wrong body" and the co-morbidity with other mental conditions should give serious pause for thought

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Stop talking women, it makes it very hard to pretend that everyone is on board with this.

Given that about 0.5% of the population are trans, it should not surprise us if about 0.5% of children will grow up to be trans.

How many of that 0.5% will figure it out while they are children, and tell people, versus how many will either not figure it out until they are older, or keep it to themselves out of fear and shame etc, is another matter - but it makes sense that as trans issues become more discussed and visible, more kids may come out as trans.

This is really not all that different to kids realising they are gay. If, say, 5% of adults are gay, then it follows that about 5% of kids will grow up to be gay. Some will realise at an early age and some will not. Of those who do realise, some will come out early and some will not.

Would it be OK if we restrict discussions on racism to the Black Mumsnetters board?

Is there a section for trans hate?!

Being trans isn't a mental illness though.

On a discussion board ? I make no apology for not being transphobic

@TeaKlaxon not if children are groomed into thinking they are 'trans'. The number will go to and up.

@maddy68 if you see anything transphobic please do report it. I can only see parents concerned about safeguarding fragile young people.

If I am transphobic, am I also ...anorexia-phobic? On account of the fact I don't think teachers should enable dysmorphias in school?

Schools should not teach lies.

This should not be controversial.

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Im so glad this is now filtering into public consciousness - people have been sleepwalking into this because they’re ignorant of what is happening. We should absolutely be discussing this on the main boards where more people will see it.

So glad the section 35 was passed yesterday regarding the proposal in Scotland. A bit of common sense in what feels like an increasingly mad world.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to notify the parents. The interesting piece for me is that kids seems to be comfortable socially transitioning at school, but somewhat uncomfortable to do the same at home in what should be their safe environment. It’s so common that I can’t see it being attributed to parental attitudes for example as a generalisation.

So what makes it ‘easier’ or more comfortable to speak to a teacher/a school adult and transition with a group of peers? Genuinely intrigued as this would seem like the opposite of my generations approach.

Ido.think the correlation between autism and girls wanting to transition is worrying ,my friends adult offspring is in the process of transitioning from FTM,both my friend and her offspring,brother have a diagnosis of autism so clearly it's genetic in their familyily and her o offspring who is transtioning,doesn't have a diagnosis they certainly have some strong traits ,and may also be on the spectrum
My Cousin,s adult offspring is also trransitioning,from FTM, within our wider family we have history of autism,my son has severe autism,as does my other,cousins son (first cousins sister) they also suspect their Dad may have been on the spectrum .

I don’t think women concerned about safeguarding need to either as they are not transphobic.

It's almost like you don't understand social contagion amongst young people.

What is it then?

How would you are describe distress caused by your physical body not aligning with your internal sense of identity?

If a person is physically and mentally healthy then why do we need trans healthcare?

We do not alter the body for any other form of distress where this kind of disconnect occurs. We do not treat anorexics with liposuction or disable people who claim to be trans abled.

What is 'born in the wrong body'? The wrong body for what?! Males can wear dresses and skirts and lipstick. Females can climb trees and build houses. Doesn't stop them from being male or female. One's 'personality' doesn't need to match ones sex. Same sex relationships are more than acceptable too

I'm a female lawyer who runs marathons and has built a house and I don't have children. Turns out my tits didn't help with any of those things but then again a cock wouldn't have helped either .