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AIBU to think my DD's teacher was inappropriate?

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picklesandicecream · 15/01/2023 14:45

Idk what exactly to think of this... my 14 year old DD came home from school the other day absolutely fuming. When questioned on what happened, she told me that her (male) teacher had been really sexist and unfair. She said that when she offered to help carry something to another classroom, she was told to sit down and let one of the boys do it. She then told the teacher that she was perfectly capable and happy to help, but he stuck to his guns and asked one of the boys to carry the box to the other classroom. DD and her friends were outraged and spent the rest of the lesson talking loudly about modern day misogyny and the influence Andrew Tate has on vulnerable men and teenage boys.

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larchforest · 16/01/2023 14:49

If that teacher only ever asks the boys to fetch and carry things, and only ever asks the girls to go and fetch him a cup of tea, I'd think that maybe he was being a tad sexist.

Otherwise, nah - let the boys do it.

Toomanywaterwipes · 16/01/2023 14:49

How heavy was the box?
A 14-year-old boy can be quite a bit stronger than a 14-year-old girl. It is not sexist to know this and act accordingly.

Crabo · 16/01/2023 14:58

It is interesting that only on the news today we have complaints that men don’t respect women and yet we have this OP complaining when boys are selected to do the work and carry things. I would’ve thought this is respecting a girl and her femininity. What we need boys to do more off!

LolaSmiles · 16/01/2023 15:03

Only post for the username and they've not returned. Interesting.

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:04

user1473878824 · 15/01/2023 15:22

ahhh the absolute drama of being 14. Such a non issue.

I wonder what made her into a drama queen?

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:06

Andsoforth · 15/01/2023 15:34

It’s not sexist to acknowledge that teenage boys, post puberty, are physically stronger than teenage girls.

Hopefully next week he'll have something seriously heavy to move and the OP's daughter will be given the job!

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:11

Itloggedmeoutagain · 15/01/2023 15:46

Given the word inappropriate, I was expecting to read he'd touched someone or something!

She has no idea why he wanted one of the boys to do it and as another poster said it's not sexist to acknowledge that boys of this age will be stronger!

Given that she spent the rest of the lesson gobbing off with her friends, I don't blame him for not wanting her to "help" ie get out of the lesson!

Teach your daughter the correct way to address situations where she feels unfairly treated.

Teach your daughter some manners.

I'm a teacher of 25 years plus experience, I've met many like her

Oh yes, haven't we all! We used to call them Right Little Laurens in the staffroom, thanks Catherine Tate!

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:21

Phos · 15/01/2023 16:55

The teacher may have been a little old-fashioned. Or might even have had another reason why he didn't want your daughter to run the errand. Her behaviour following the incident, makes the latter plausible. Your daughter was inappropriate by spending the rest of the lesson talking loudly on her soapbox.

She sounds like the sort of pupil you want sitting in their seat working not wandering round school on some errand that would doubtless drag into a much longer absence from the classroom!

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:23

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 15/01/2023 17:48

I had something similar at school when I was moving a grand piano. A male teacher came in and said looks like you need the help of a male there ladies.
I said to him "Well can you go and get one then please sir there are none around here." His face was priceless. She needs a few stored in the bank.

Oh yes, let's make her even more obnoxious shall we!

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 16/01/2023 15:26

Talking loudly about something else (and distracting her friends) when she should be learning, after trying twice to get out of the lesson? Sounds like a pattern.

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:32

NumberTheory · 15/01/2023 22:27

It’s not respectful if the woman wants to do the lifting.

Would that be because women should always get their own way? Is that where equality is now?

NumberTheory · 16/01/2023 15:56

Twanky · 16/01/2023 15:32

Would that be because women should always get their own way? Is that where equality is now?

WTF?

Have you read the exchange you’re responding to here?

We aren’t talking about women “getting their own way”. We’re talking about women being allowed to do things they’re capable of and want to do. And yes, that is a part of what equality is.

ElfandSafety101 · 16/01/2023 15:58

The op hasn’t returned to the thread

shocker

LolaSmiles · 16/01/2023 16:32

We aren’t talking about women “getting their own way”. We’re talking about women being allowed to do things they’re capable of and want to do. And yes, that is a part of what equality is.
It's really not about women being allowed to do things they are capable of and want to do, because the central part of the (likely made up) OP is that a teacher has selected a student to do an errand and instead of letting the student do the errand, another student chose to disrupt the lesson, argue with the teacher to try and do the errand, and continued to disrupt the lesson with their passive aggressive disruptive behaviour.

The situation didn't need to have happened because the OP's daughter didn't need to get involved in the discussion about the errand in the first place.

malificent7 · 16/01/2023 16:41

Your dd sounds like she overreacted and is hard work.

NumberTheory · 16/01/2023 16:59

LolaSmiles · 16/01/2023 16:32

We aren’t talking about women “getting their own way”. We’re talking about women being allowed to do things they’re capable of and want to do. And yes, that is a part of what equality is.
It's really not about women being allowed to do things they are capable of and want to do, because the central part of the (likely made up) OP is that a teacher has selected a student to do an errand and instead of letting the student do the errand, another student chose to disrupt the lesson, argue with the teacher to try and do the errand, and continued to disrupt the lesson with their passive aggressive disruptive behaviour.

The situation didn't need to have happened because the OP's daughter didn't need to get involved in the discussion about the errand in the first place.

As you should be able to tell from the use of “women” and “men” throughout, the exchange you took this from was a not about the girl in question and whether or not she should have been given the job she asked for, which I agree isn’t a given.

The exchange was about whether or not it is respectful in general that men do any lifting if they are around whether or not a woman wants to and is capable of it.

In the OP’s scenario it isn’t clear what exactly was said and what the sequence of events was. But many posters are defending the idea that the teacher should pick boys for this task and not allow girls to do it even if they are capable and willing. That’s what this exchange was about. The idea the it is right and respectful that half the population shouldn’t even be considered for something they want and are capable of doing.

SleeplessInEngland · 16/01/2023 17:00

The OP seems to have fucked off but I'd be interested to hear the teacher's side.

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WhereIsMumHiding3 · 16/01/2023 19:14

What's with the bold and under lining??

WhereIsMumHiding3 · 16/01/2023 19:15

Is such a shame that OP posted early afternoon yesterday & hasn't even replied since ... Hmm

HebeMumsnet · 16/01/2023 19:44

Evening, everyone. We're going to close this thread to new posts now. It doesn't look like the OP is returning so we don't think there's going to be any more information forthcoming..

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