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To be annoyed and angry with DH

358 replies

Topoftheworldtonight · 13/01/2023 22:28

on a 2 night trip to London with DH and the kids. Our first day here. We’re still out now. Since it went dark earlier this evening DH has not stopped saying “we need to go back to the hotel”, “it’s too dark”, “it’s not safe” and so on. I’ve told him to stop and he won’t. Aibu to be angry and annoyed with him? We’re on our way back to the hotel now but earlier I had to keep explaining to him for hours that just because it’s dark we don’t have to go straight back to the hotel. He’s been making the same comments for hours and hours since it went dark

OP posts:
gannett · 14/01/2023 12:20

The OP hasn't given many details at all so it's hard to comment - is her husband habitually anxious? Unused to cities? If so surely this should have been discussed beforehand? Surely this paranoia didn't come out of nowhere. It's completely bizarre and irrational to think it's "not safe" because it's "too dark" in London, anyway. I wouldn't know what to say to someone who said that to me, I'd just boggle at them for being so simple.

Liorae · 14/01/2023 12:20

ZekeZeke · 14/01/2023 06:49

If a woman posted here about being in London with her DH and kids and feeling vulnerable and wanted to go back to the hotel but her DH won't.
The responses would be LTB

Not from me. The reply from me would be get over yourself.

Naunet · 14/01/2023 12:23

MyNameisMathilda · 14/01/2023 10:11

While that may be true can you understand that people not familiar with it may be on guard a bit? The same as if you were in New York or San Francisco or any other major city?

Absolutely, but this wasn’t a bit, this was ridiculously extreme.

Naunet · 14/01/2023 12:28

thedancingbear · 14/01/2023 10:41

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_anxiety_disorder

You're not worth bothering with any further. Clearly you think men's mental health doesn't matter.

Men’s mental health?! What qualifications do you have that means you can diagnose someone you’ve never met or even spoken to, but simply read one post about? Do you think being a psychologist is an untrained job?

GreetingsToTheNewBrunette · 14/01/2023 12:32

levellingleveller · 14/01/2023 11:09

Since it went dark earlier this evening DH has not stopped saying “we need to go back to the hotel”, “it’s too dark”, “it’s not safe” and so on. I’ve told him to stop and he won’t

This is from the OP. Its the only information we have. So yes, I am basing my views on the information provided because without doing so, there's no thread, is there?

Presumably you never post on threads because 'you weren't there' and so can't comment. And presumably you have no interest in what anyone else on a thread says, because they weren't there either. Which begs the question, why on you on Mumsnet?

Sorry forgot you were the MN police. My mistake xxx

Yes she said over and over but that could mean a few times. I would say most posters would dramatise a little just because it’s from their POV and they found it annoying, but also that they’d like the other posters to be on their side. Have to take it with a pinch of salt don’t you.

why are you on mumsnet? To get overly upset and defensive if someone has a different opinion?

Naunet · 14/01/2023 12:32

LordSugarTits · 14/01/2023 11:34

"😂 central London is perfectly safe, take it from Londoners who know what they’re talking about."

Until you're getting grabbed by some spice head who are all over the place in central London. Or caught up in the fights that happen every night. Or pickpocketed by the skanks that hang round Piccadilly and Kings Cross.

The OP is unreasonable for being angry at him and we don't have enough info really because she hasn't once said what the younger children wanted to do.

The level of tension for those kids is something both parents should've taken into account. One parent openly saying it's unsafe and he's scared, the other one fuming and posting on MN at 10.30 at night Confused

The husband is unreasonable for saying it's not safe repeatedly in front of the kids. He felt unsafe though and scared and piling on to call him a wet wipe, moist, a wee petal, pathetic is just vile.

You live in London do you? I do, never seen anyone “on spice” or even fights in the streets for the matter. And being so bloody scared that you want to go back to a hotel as soon as it’s dark, which is about 4.30, is pathetic. Nothing vile about it. He could have gone back to the hotel if he wanted, but he doesn’t get to demand OP does too.

BadNomad · 14/01/2023 12:40

It doesn't matter how safe people who live in London think it is, people from outside of London are fed a different impression by the media. As someone who grew up in Belfast and constantly heard "outsiders" expressing fear about visiting, I can understand why some people from outside of high-crime, murder-capital London might be concerned about being out late with their young family.

Thepeopleversuswork · 14/01/2023 12:50

Honestly some of the ideas people have about what central London is like are making me LOL.

You are as likely to see a spice zombie in central London as an alien. Or a stabbing in zone 1. Central London has pockets of homeless people but it’s basically off limits to people who are not wealthy because of the cost. There used to be “skanks” as so charmingly put, in Kings Cross but they were cleared out 20 years ago. Central London is incredibly sanitised.

Yeah there’s crime in London (like most major cities). But a stabbing at 4pm in zone 1 would make the national newspapers.

This bloke really needs to get out more. And he clearly doesn’t live there but that’s a quite absurd level of paranoia.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 14/01/2023 12:57

LordSugarTits · 14/01/2023 00:47

6 and 8 is young to be still schlepping the streets at nearly midnight

Agree.

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 14/01/2023 12:59

You’d be more likely to see a Spice Girl in Zone 1 or 2 than a Spice Zombie!

As someone who’s lived in London for 53 years, I’ve been a victim of pickpocketing once and that was in West Ham - hardly the centre of the throbbing metropolis.

And I doubt the collective Kings Cross retailers of Jo Malone, Fortnum and Masons, The White Company (plus the kids at the 9 and 3/4 Platform) etc would be happy being described as ‘skanks’ (nice language)

Come and discover your capital city fgs!

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:08

You’d be more likely to see a Spice Girl in Zone 1 or 2 than a Spice Zombie!

😂

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:09

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 14/01/2023 12:57

Agree.

It was 10.30!!! On what clock is that nearly midnight?!

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 14/01/2023 13:14

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:09

It was 10.30!!! On what clock is that nearly midnight?!

The kids are 6 & 8 ffs.

dogdaydown · 14/01/2023 13:18

@UnshakenNeedsStirring 10.30 is not nearly midnight, whatever the age of the child.

It's a one off, it's fine.

BunchHarman · 14/01/2023 13:21

Why is it so horrifying for a six year old to stay up until 10:30pm (gasp!) while on a mini holiday to somewhere new?

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:27

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 14/01/2023 13:14

The kids are 6 & 8 ffs.

And your point is? They're on a mini holiday. One late night isn't going to hurt.

lap90 · 14/01/2023 13:31

I'd find this annoying. Plenty of people about on a Friday night, into the early hours of Saturday morning in Central London.

Liorae · 14/01/2023 13:49

MilkyYay · 14/01/2023 07:47

Half 10 at night is very late for a 6 year old to be up? Its late even for an 8 year old.

Perhaps in your neighborhood. In most of the world, especially on holiday, it's not.

cariadghost · 14/01/2023 13:53

There are some very sheltered people on this thread, which is fine but spouting shit about "spice zombies" just showed your ignorance about what central London is like and if you're passing those attitudes on to your children then that's really sad I think.

Lj8893 · 14/01/2023 13:58

I have never seen a “spice zombie” in central london and have spent a lot of time in London.
I’ve seen plenty of “spice zombies” in small, rural towns though!!

cariadghost · 14/01/2023 14:01

I find most seaside towns more dodgy after dark than central London!

Lj8893 · 14/01/2023 14:05

cariadghost · 14/01/2023 14:01

I find most seaside towns more dodgy after dark than central London!

Some are even dodgier during the day than central London at night 😂

horriblechristmas2022 · 14/01/2023 14:44

@LordSugarTits you seem ghastly

BunchHarman · 14/01/2023 14:49

There are some terrified little suburban mice on this thread, aren’t there? Christ almighty. 😆

Liorae · 14/01/2023 15:22

Thepeopleversuswork · 14/01/2023 09:08

Yeah but being “scared” of being out at night in London is very neurotic and sends a really terrible signal to your kids.

Yeah up to a point you have to respect people’s anxieties but you can’t let this dictate the activities for the whole family and instil irrational fear into your kids.

I doubt this is an actual phobia, probably just being stuck in his ways and timid. If he actually has a diagnosis of phobia around being out at night in C London he needs help from a psychiatrist or counsellor. Otherwise he needs to stop pushing out stuff like this which needlessly restricts his wife and kids.

Funny how that's not that's not the advice to women who behave the same way - their paranoia should be indulged.

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