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I know I am AIBU, but whenever child-free ppl complain about being tired I get annoyed, barring medical/health issues

381 replies

worldenoughandtime · 13/01/2023 18:07

This is just a secret confession here, in the anonymity of the internet, and I hope I have enough social skills to disguise my true feelings. Which is of extreme annoyance when child-free people complain about being tired (given there are no aggravating health concerns). (In my social circle at least, people complain about being tired and busy all the time).

The tiredness that comes with managing kids - especially more than one, and especially for lone/single parents of which there seems to be more and more- is just on a different level. Needed to get that off my chest.

OP posts:
Thesealsknowsheismagic · 13/01/2023 20:02

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And what if the parent has a really laid back child. That sleeps and entertains themselves.

Or the Parent has another parent and they both make sure each other catches up on rest.

Or the parents who let their kids sleep over at their grandparents 1 or 2 nights a week. And get plenty of rest time.

Or parents that work but are pretty shit parents and leave it all to the other one? Does that parent have a right to say they are tired?

Or the non parent has other commitments outside work is busier than the parent colleague who also gets plenty of rest.

Butchyrestingface · 13/01/2023 20:03

I have wondered if child-free ppl complaining a lot about being tired may have undiagnosed medical conditions.

All these child-free people complaining of being tired around you, OP.
Maybe they're just tired of listening to you? I know I am and you're only 4 posts in on this thread. Grin

Toottooot · 13/01/2023 20:04

Awa bile yer heid min.

Butchyrestingface · 13/01/2023 20:05

thunderstruckk · 13/01/2023 19:48

I always get mad when people who decide to have kids moan about being tired, overworked, stressed - didn't they know what having kids meant?

I'm wondering if OP is also one of those posters who starts threads saying "How can child-free people claim to love anyone? No-one who isn't a parent can possibly know what REAL love is."

honeylulu · 13/01/2023 20:06

There's no monopoly on tiredness. I'm tired. It's not because I have two children. It's not because I work full time/ long hours. It's not because I have insomnia. It's because I'm a night owl and I don't go to bed when I should. So it's my own stupid fault and I don't bore people moaning about it. Although according to the OP I could just blame the kids.

I do find it irritating when people moan about tiredness when they could have just gone to bed and didn't ffs.

Also irritating when people have lots of children or children close together and then moan about the hardship of how tired it makes them or how much labour it creates. No one forced you at gunpoint to have 5 kids!

Technonan · 13/01/2023 20:06

Clearly, you haven't lived, or haven't lived enough.

MorganKitten · 13/01/2023 20:06

worldenoughandtime · 13/01/2023 18:07

This is just a secret confession here, in the anonymity of the internet, and I hope I have enough social skills to disguise my true feelings. Which is of extreme annoyance when child-free people complain about being tired (given there are no aggravating health concerns). (In my social circle at least, people complain about being tired and busy all the time).

The tiredness that comes with managing kids - especially more than one, and especially for lone/single parents of which there seems to be more and more- is just on a different level. Needed to get that off my chest.

I can’t have children as I’m a career for my fully mental, physical and emotionally disabled mum. I also work in child care so looking after other peoples children… so they can’t complain they are tired as I’m looking after them.

BreviloquentBastard · 13/01/2023 20:10

I'm tired because I stayed up until 3am last night drinking, making popcorn, watching lame movies and playing Lego Harry Potter with my husband, fooling around like teenagers. Tonight we've got friends over to make s'mores at our fire pit and plan our upcoming trip to Krakow. Tomorrow I will also be tired, from completely self inflicted lack of sleep and alcohol and merriment, but it is in fact real tiredness whether you like it or not.

Stay bitter OP, it's clearly working so well for you.

toocold54 · 13/01/2023 20:14

Quite. Try the panic of the landline ringing at 12:30am because your dad with dementia doesn't realise what time it is, and then when you've dealt with that lying awake till your alarm goes off at 6:30 for work because you're all keyed up and worrying.

But lots of people have these issues.

The facts are that these issues are much more stressful if you had children to worry about on top of all the rest.

I have a teen and my colleague has young twins.
I’m a single parent and she has a partner to help her.
We work in the exact same job but I know that she is going to be more tired that me as her twins don’t sleep and they pick up every bug going at nursery.

I think people are getting defensive because they feel attacked but actually it’s just common sense.

Lolabear38 · 13/01/2023 20:15

YABVVVU , in case you hadn’t already garnered that from pp 😂😂

I’m a mum of two and I’m tired. Before I had kids…. I was also tired! No more or no less tired than I am now - just tired. I actually can’t stand it when parents make claims like this - it’s so entitled and misguided.

Lilyhop · 13/01/2023 20:15

This is actually bizarre 🤣 I’m sat here with my sister and both saying how tired we are tonight after a busy week… I am a mum of 4, one of my children is disabled, I work part time.. I have to get up with my son at least every 3 hours in the night to do his NG tube, stoma bag or when he’s having seizures…. My sister works full time, is stressed out with deadlines to meet, is single so no one to share making dinner, housework, ‘life admin’ etc.. and I genuinely have never thought ‘how dare my childless sister think she’s tired. She doesn’t know what it is. It’s ME that’s tired. 🥴

by your logic then, I could say if you don’t have a severely disabled teenage child and haven’t had a full nights sleep for over a decade - then you have no idea what tiredness really is either. 🤣🤣

honestly .

Butchyrestingface · 13/01/2023 20:18

Can't wait for the deletion message. Will it be:

Post removed because

A). OP has been identified in real life
B). This thread is causing OP distress
C). This thread has broken House Rules
D). OP has deregistered
E). OP is a PBP
F). OP is totes correct - fuck off all you non-tired, dried-up barren husks
G). Other?

LadyOfTheCanyon · 13/01/2023 20:20

G) Other - OP is too tired to deal with this shit.

CovertImage · 13/01/2023 20:22

Ah bless. I think OP is a bit thick

thunderstruckk · 13/01/2023 20:23

OP won't be able to come back and reply, she's desperately trying to get an early night during her hectic hectic schedule, we wouldn't understand.

TheMatriarchy · 13/01/2023 20:24

Im a single working parent, one of them has a disability, and yeah I'm tired. Its relentless, and I cant do anything about it.
I have childless friends, they also get tired, but mainly from things they can do something about. So on that level, I get you.

WildFlowerBees · 13/01/2023 20:27

So are child free people not busy enough or allowed to feel tired? Ridiculous.

Newusername3kidss · 13/01/2023 20:31

Obviously would never say it in real life but yep I agree! My cousin who is child free and has a Monday to Friday job was moaning on Saturday that she was “so tired”, I’m breastfeeding a newborn and up every 2 hours. Also have 3 other young children. My decision I know and I don’t moan to her about being tired but when she moans about being tired to me I do think “why?? Just go to bed!!” The tiredness of having children is the thing that I find the hardest.

fatsinglereadytomingle · 13/01/2023 20:32

Competitive tiredness...🥱🥱

Everyone has a right to to feel tired FFS Parents choose to have children not every childless person chooses to be in that position.

Surely as an adult people made an educated decision to have a child and took into consideration the trials that brings.

Non parents can have just as busy/stressful lives and be just as tired as parents but obviously they should never dare vocalise it.

I bet OP thinks childless people should automatically let parents have time off over Christmas etc etc and if they don't their selfish blah blah blah

ConfusedNT · 13/01/2023 20:38

fatsinglereadytomingle · 13/01/2023 20:32

Competitive tiredness...🥱🥱

Everyone has a right to to feel tired FFS Parents choose to have children not every childless person chooses to be in that position.

Surely as an adult people made an educated decision to have a child and took into consideration the trials that brings.

Non parents can have just as busy/stressful lives and be just as tired as parents but obviously they should never dare vocalise it.

I bet OP thinks childless people should automatically let parents have time off over Christmas etc etc and if they don't their selfish blah blah blah

But if course we should have Christmas off

Because to a (luckily small) minority of parents childless people are just their audience. we aren't living, breathing people with our own lives and worries and cares and reasons to be tired and families we want to see at christmas.

We are their audience who are there to cheer them on and tell them how hard they have it and how no one else has ever had it so hard, no one else has ever been so tired, of course we will cover shifts for them, because they aren't just A mum, they are THE mum, the only one who has ever had it so hard and done it so well

So much main character energy going on with the OP. Of course she is annoyed other people are tired, the audience isnt there to be tired, they are there to focus on her.

yogpot · 13/01/2023 20:39

I dunno, I’ve got a 5 month old milk gremlin that lives attached to my boob 24/7, and I’d say I’m less tired than I was when I used to go out on the lash 5 nights a week until 6am. Or when I was working full time and writing my thesis in the college library at night (still have anxiety dreams about this). Pretty sure I’m more rested than friends of mine who work shift work in frontline healthcare, or who are SEN teachers, or who are responsible for elderly relatives.

At least the wee milk gremlin is cute.

EasterIsland · 13/01/2023 20:41

You know, I usually have a lot of sympathy for women who are parenting young children & also working. But not when they say things like the OP. All my sympathy disappears.

Greencarrace · 13/01/2023 20:44

Newusername3kidss · 13/01/2023 20:31

Obviously would never say it in real life but yep I agree! My cousin who is child free and has a Monday to Friday job was moaning on Saturday that she was “so tired”, I’m breastfeeding a newborn and up every 2 hours. Also have 3 other young children. My decision I know and I don’t moan to her about being tired but when she moans about being tired to me I do think “why?? Just go to bed!!” The tiredness of having children is the thing that I find the hardest.

I have a ‘better’ reason than you to be tired, so does that mean you can’t complain? Other people will have a ‘better’ reason than me, so then I can’t complain? Where does it end.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/01/2023 20:45

It's the same as the ridiculous notion that parenthood is 'the hardest job in the world'. It's really not, it's time consuming and dull but it is in no way actually requires any sort of skill

My GM did it and she was the stupidest woman I ever met. Well, until today.

Sparklesocks · 13/01/2023 20:45

You don’t have the monopoly on feeling a certain way because you have kids. I think it’s incredible arrogant to think otherwise.

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