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AIBU for calling the police

240 replies

Strawberryjam45 · 08/01/2023 00:02

Went to see a friend at her new house today and stopped by the local high street with DH, Dd and ds. There was 3 boys standing outside a kebab shop and my DD 2.5 brushed against one of the boys bikes and it fell to the ground, I immediately apologied and thought that was the end of it. A few minutes later the boys are following us across the high street saying we've scratched their bike and telling us the bike is 3000 pounds to which DH responds something like "in my day a bike like that would have cost 50 quid" and we walked off.

Again we thought that was the end of it and went across the road to a coffee shop to eat-in. We sat down and after 5 mins realized that the boys were outside circling the coffee shop, waiting for us. They wanted us to know they were waiting for us and making it very obvious. I started to panic at this stage but DH said they would get bored and leave. 20 mins later they are still there and because we have two small children with us (2.5 and 1) and I'm not sure what they'll do I'm reluctant to leave and say I'm going to call the police which I do explaining to the operator that although they haven't actually threatened us, I do feel threatened by their behavior and like we can't leave safely. There is no one else in the coffee shop and not many people on this quite desolate looking high street.

More teens join the three boys and there is now 10-12 outside, all just circling the coffee shop and making it clear they are waiting for us. We explain to the women at the counter what has happened and that we've called the police.

One of the boys (not the original 3), older, with his face covered comes into the coffee shop with his hands in his pants and clearly under the influence of something. At this point im terrified that he'll attack my DH (as he made the comment about the bike being worth 50 quid in his day) and im not sure what he has in pants (i was worried it would be a knife). Luckily the waitress is very firm and asks that he leaves when he tries to sit on the table directly next to us and he does.

The waitress goes out and asks the boys what the issue is and comes back and explains they want an apology and maybe £20 for the scratches for the bike. My husband was prepared to do this but I couldn't believe at this stage when there was at least 10-12 teens they would just leave it at that so asked him not to go and just wait for the police to come. One of the boys starts making rude gestures at my husband at this point.

Police came and I explained what had happened and apologized for calling them but said that I really did feel scared to leave as I thought they might attack us. Police said the boys had been rude to them and we were right to call. We were able to leave safely while the police were there.

Re-telling the story to family I did wonder whether I had done the right thing by calling the police as to be honest it sounded quite trivial (it's not like the boys had actually threatened us directly) and it may have been that they might have just thrown something at us/sworn at us and that would have been the end of it-not great but not a police matter either.

Was I wrong/overreacted to call the police? I don't think I would have done so pre DC but I think having the kids with me made me panic more than I otherwise would have as it's not like we could have just got into our car quickly and left (faffing around with car seats)

OP posts:
LexMitior · 08/01/2023 00:55

Not every teen is armed. But one that is full of it, asking for 20 quid with a 3000 quid bike outside a kebab shop.

Yes, I would assume that he or one of his mates had one.

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 00:56

DuplicateUserName · 08/01/2023 00:51

@Greenshake why don't you just admit you were wrong to accuse a PP of over-dramatization when they said the the youths could have stabbed them?

You have no idea what area the OP was in, or what the knife statistics are there.

I am neither right or wrong…..the OP requested people’s views and opinions! Presumably you don’t know the area either, so in that respect you have no more info than I. As per my original post, the OP was totally correct to call the Police.

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 00:57

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 00:51

@Greenshake I am indeed

if that’s a murder case that’s a very surprising sentence

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 00:58

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 00:46

@Bard6817 nobody convicted of murder gets a slap on the wrist, as you well know.

I’m afraid that’s not what i said.

DuplicateUserName · 08/01/2023 00:58

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 00:56

I am neither right or wrong…..the OP requested people’s views and opinions! Presumably you don’t know the area either, so in that respect you have no more info than I. As per my original post, the OP was totally correct to call the Police.

🙄🙄🙄

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 00:58

@Greenshake not surprising merely disgusting for his family and everyone his death affected.

notacooldad · 08/01/2023 00:59

Right to call tbe police IMO.
They intent was to intimidate you.

I would have been frightened as well.

The Shits!!!

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:00

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 00:58

@Greenshake not surprising merely disgusting for his family and everyone his death affected.

Yep, I would definitely be wanting that particular sentencing decision appealed

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:01

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 00:58

I’m afraid that’s not what i said.

Sorry, I am so busy fighting the inevitable pile on that I can’t remember your exact wording.

2023pending · 08/01/2023 01:01

This world is absolutely ridiculous. Why the hell are kids intimidating grown adults. 100% correct in phoning the police. Anyone would’ve done the same

LexMitior · 08/01/2023 01:01

The sentences for violence with weapons in this country are a joke. I used to be in the field but my opinion totally changed from a relatively liberal one regarding youths and knives to one that would have given them an immediate custodial sentence of years just for carrying. It would upset a lot of people but knife carriers are base scum. They ruined neighbourhoods and their communities.

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 01:02

But let's not deviate from the OPs post @Greenshake what, in your opinion as you work in the field, would these teens have to gain by gathering another 7/8 youths? I know it's merely guess work but I'd be interested to know your take......

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 01:02

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 00:47

Yes thanks, I work in the field. You do realise that not every youth is armed to the teeth, despite what the Mail might tell you?

I Don’t read the mail or any other red top.

Just have a different exposure to the world than you.

And when you see a team of 10-12 hovering - it’s naive to think they aren’t tooled up.

IceStationStallion · 08/01/2023 01:02

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 00:29

Hang on a minute, that’s going a bit far. Calling the Police was the right thing to do, but don’t over-dramatize it.

It's not going too far - there are too many men who have been stabbed or kicked to death or injury by people like this.

DuplicateUserName · 08/01/2023 01:03

It's quite worrying that anyone would think every youth would have to be armed to the teeth, for just one of them to produce a knife from their pocket.

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 01:03

2023pending · 08/01/2023 01:01

This world is absolutely ridiculous. Why the hell are kids intimidating grown adults. 100% correct in phoning the police. Anyone would’ve done the same

there’s no consequences these days.

Go sit in a mags court for a day and watch. Lots of referrals to crown court, but your eyes will be opened just what they get away with.

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:04

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 01:02

But let's not deviate from the OPs post @Greenshake what, in your opinion as you work in the field, would these teens have to gain by gathering another 7/8 youths? I know it's merely guess work but I'd be interested to know your take......

It would be so mush easier to respond to you if your posts weren’t dripping with sarcasm. The point is intimidation.

Adelant · 08/01/2023 01:05

You were right to call the police and I would have been just as worried as you.

Putting myself in their shoes, I do think you / DH could have been more careful with DD. How was she able to get so close to the bike and ‘brush’ against it? Was it leaning against something?

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:05

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 01:02

I Don’t read the mail or any other red top.

Just have a different exposure to the world than you.

And when you see a team of 10-12 hovering - it’s naive to think they aren’t tooled up.

We don’t know each other’s life history’s, it’s a given. Still doesn’t mean every gang of kids is tooled up.

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 01:06

@Greenshake I don't stoop to sarcasm. I was genuinely interested in getting your perspective. As you say intimidation by sheer volume of youths....if that didn't work....you see where I say COULD have turned nasty. I wasn't being dramatic I was stating what COULD have happened.

IceStationStallion · 08/01/2023 01:08

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:05

We don’t know each other’s life history’s, it’s a given. Still doesn’t mean every gang of kids is tooled up.

People are foolish to not think that.

Want2beme · 08/01/2023 01:08

No, you were not wrong, even the police said so. Bloody hell, that must have been really worrying. Those lads needed to know that people won't tolerate their intimidation tactics.

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 01:12

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:05

We don’t know each other’s life history’s, it’s a given. Still doesn’t mean every gang of kids is tooled up.

It’s only you saying ‘every’.

Have a look at the stats on the Ben Kinsella website. Just shy of 50,000 knife related incidents in a year. And that’s just the ones the cops know about.

Greenshake · 08/01/2023 01:14

Ludo19 · 08/01/2023 01:06

@Greenshake I don't stoop to sarcasm. I was genuinely interested in getting your perspective. As you say intimidation by sheer volume of youths....if that didn't work....you see where I say COULD have turned nasty. I wasn't being dramatic I was stating what COULD have happened.

Your earlier post relating to something I said about working in the field, complete with the appropriate eye roll type emoji was sarcastic.

Brokendaughter · 08/01/2023 01:16

Teens who hang around in groups for half an hour calling in additional teens to create a more intimidating scene (or however long the OP was in the coffee shop until the Police actually turned up) trying to extort money from strangers after masking their face before entering a place they expected there to be CCTV are far more likely to be carrying knives than teens who are just walking down the road going to see their friends or whatever.

None of the kids or adults who have been stabbed expected the teens who did it to actually put a knife in them.

Everyone should be calling the police on any teen (or adult) trying to threaten adults like this.

I'm glad you & your family are okay OP.
You did the right thing.

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