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To not sell my home for the benefit of my stepkids?

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jaicobain · 07/01/2023 15:34

I was never able to have children of my own. I was with somebody for 20 years, had all the treatments, and only ever had miscarriages. He became abusive and I left in my mid-40s, that was that. I am lucky in that I bought my house before he came along. I’m 57 now, and have come to terms with not having DC, but it’s still a great source of sadness to me.

My 2 nieces were born in my 30s, and I adore them. They were a great comfort to me, I’ve always been close to my sister so as a result was close to them. I am their Godmother. Of course they couldn’t be a substitute to my own DC but we have such a close relationship. When they were teenagers, they moved in with me for a few months whilst Dsis struggled with depression. Then a couple of years later my elder niece moved back in for 4 months at age 17 due to rebellious behaviour that Dsis wasn’t coping with. They are now both brilliant young women, and both have babies. They aren’t particularly well-off, and have struggled with the cost of living recently. I’ve been very vocal of the fact that they will inherit my house. Maybe a mistake to tell them that but they are greatful and not entitled at all.

I am in great health and expect to be around for the forseeable, and have always planned to leave my house to my sister, or my nieces if she passes before me. My sister is younger than me, but has ill-health and chronic conditions that have worsened as of late. She is not at deaths door or anything but has told me full-well that she doubts she’ll make 70.

I have a husband now, married 5 years, I have moved in with him. I have a tenant in my property. The problem that has arisen is that he wants us to buy a holiday home in Spain, but doesn’t want to downsize his large Victorian house to fund it (worth £500,000+, bought in the 80s in an area that got gentrified) because he wants his 2 sons to inherit it. He is snobbish about the area of my house (one of the not so nice areas of the city, but it’s where I grew up and I’m fond of it!), and is incredibly vocal about it. He thinks I should ‘get rid’ of my house and buy us the holiday home with the money. I have asked him why he doesn’t just downsize his 4-bedroom, it’s just the 2 of us and his 4 granddaughter’s are pre-teens/teens so they don’t even come and stay anymore. And it’s always the same response, he wants his sons to inherit it and the hypothetical holiday home that he expects me to sell my beloved home to fund.

He actually said that since I don’t have DC and now live with him I don’t need the house. As somebody who tried for years to have kids, this hurt me a lot. He also fails to respect my close relationship with my nieces, and has actually said I should prioritise his adult kids over my 2 nieces. Prioritising his kids would mean selling my house to fund the holiday home so that he doesn’t have to downsize his big house that they are due to inherit.

I am finding the whole thing incredibly upsetting and I feel like he doesn’t respect me or my family. He’s made many a nasty comment about my sister’s mental health issues and has no sympathy for her physical health issues which he says are her own fault for smoking, it’s like her considers her and my nieces to just be worthless. I will add that the holiday home is all him, I am really not bothered and would rather just go on nice holidays around Europe without the stress of buying and maintaining a holiday home.

OP posts:
Utterknowitall · 09/01/2023 21:09

I haven't read all the comments so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but it is really important your Will is up to date, as without a Will, your estate will pass to your spouse if you predecease him. Sorry to be morbid. You just need to make sure everything is legally correct as you wish it to be.

Testina · 09/01/2023 22:01

@Utterknowitall your username really made me laugh in the context of your post. It is such an important point that it’s worth making multiple times I suppose but yes, funnily enough by page 30, it’s been covered 😉

helpplease01 · 09/01/2023 22:22

Please tell us what happens. I feel invested now. I hope you realise everyone on here is unanimous in our condemnation of your husbands behaviour towards you.
STOP ignoring your gut instincts.
Get out.

ThreeRingCircus · 09/01/2023 22:58

OP..... keep talking to your sister, she is absolutely correct and it sounds like she'll be there for you. I'm glad you have support in real life.

Kiwirose · 09/01/2023 23:21

Seek legal advice.
Make sure you have an up to date will so your estate goes where you want it to.
Ask if you should put your home into a trust for your family.

I am really sorry you are going through this. Kx

sugarrosepetal · 10/01/2023 22:56

Emotional abuse, financial abuse and coercive control. You are in another abusive relationship. Please seek legal advice and get yourself together then leave him. Whatever you do, don't sell your house to benefit his family and his wants. He is trying to pull you away from your family and leave you financially destitute. Hugs x

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

BunchHarman · 11/01/2023 11:34

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

Have you gone quite mad?

purpledalmation · 11/01/2023 12:42

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

So you actually think your being helpful? Or are you one to the DC who will benefit?

704703hey · 11/01/2023 12:45

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

She just wants her property to go to her nieces. She hasn't got an issue with her husband leaving his property to his children.

OP hope you have taken steps towards getting legal advice.

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 12:57

Exactly. Yes legal advice definitely needed.

Memyselfandsunshine · 11/01/2023 14:28

Its REALLY simple.
Your husband expects you to give up your financial security and have none.
He also sees your family as below him and unimportant. This is disgraceful.

This is not love.

It should be a massive if not completely terminal red flag that your husband does not want you to have financial security and has no care for if you are okay in future.
This is the kind of revelation that should have you realising you dont need this man and to grab the bright happy future you can obvuously provide your self

WickedSerious · 11/01/2023 16:27

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

I can see where he's coming from too and it's not a place I'd ever want to visit.

0461den · 11/01/2023 17:00

Takemetoyourleade Sounds good!! that is until you look at the knitty Gritty> so this ladies money is used to buy a holiday home, mmmm what happens if the marriage breaks down!! and the husband kicks his wife out.! she's homeless at least in the short term. Why is he so hell bent on having a home abroad while his own home is safe and secure. This ladies house is her security and safety net and a source of income. She is in a vulnerable position if she sells her house. Why cant the husband understand and accept that , why cant he sell his house to buy a property abroad [its his ambition not his wife's] and why does he want the holiday property to be in shared ownership!! His house apparently is a large 4 bed property so he could down size by selling up and buying a smaller property leaving funds to follow his dream. For any lady in this situation no matter how loved up they are must always consider their future security. I have dealt with many problems where a wife has given into the husbands wishes only to suffer later. Why cant he be a gentleman and accept his wife's wishes and concerns rather than brow beat houses that we purchased my wife bought 3 of them while I was abroad because of my job, I always ensured the properties were in joint names and my Will was always in favour of my wife, that said, not once in over 30 yrs of marriage did we have a stand up row, she was my life and I loved her dearly. Girls ensure you are secure, consider what will happen if you are kicked out, prepare a safety net.

GabriellaMontez · 12/01/2023 09:49

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

No, he wants the marriage to be him, her, and his children. But not her family because for some reason they don't matter.

EyesOnThePies · 12/01/2023 09:59

@Takemetoyourleader But the OP specifically says she doesn’t want a holiday home in Spain and prefers to visit different places for holidays. He wants her to buy something she doesn’t even want.

RavenhairedRachel · 12/01/2023 13:04

Read the damn post !

HerRoyalGoddess · 12/01/2023 13:19

Takemetoyourleader · 11/01/2023 11:00

Although it must be very upsetting, I can kind of see where he’s coming from.

The marriage is you and him, not you and your sister and nieces.

You both had asssts when you went in to marriage; he had his house and you had yours. Sounds like his house is now being treated as a shared marriage asset, with you both living there (and of course the cries of “divorce him and take half his house) but yours somehow you want to excluded from the marriage.

Perhaps if you thought of it more as possibly selling your house to buy another marriage asset (holiday home) to enjoy together, rather than just selling it so he can leave his house to his sons eventually, it will sit with you better, focus on enjoying assets together while you are alive, not what will happen when you are not.

I'd thought that this thread had achieved the impossible of uniting all posters in favour of the OP, but no. You came along with your ridiculous take and ruined it, did you not read OPs post where essentially her husband believes what's his is his and what's hers is also his.

Not only is he emotionally abusive by commenting on the fact OP was unable to have kids, he's slagging off her sister and dismissing her relationship with her nieces.

His whole world revolves around him.

OP if you're still here, I truly hope you've gotten legal advice and are setting things in motion to make sure he can't take anything from you.

MistyLuna · 12/01/2023 15:33

Not only is he emotionally abusive by commenting on the fact OP was unable to have kids, he's slagging off her sister and dismissing her relationship with her nieces.

All of which could be manipulation tactics to get her to write everything in her will to his children rather than her nieces.

Reigateforever · 12/01/2023 16:41

Have you decided how to go forward jaicobain ?

GilesIreland · 12/01/2023 16:50

Heh!

Usecoooomonsnse · 31/01/2023 19:43

@jaicobain have you had some legal advice ?

WickedStepmomNOT · 04/02/2023 15:46

@jaicobain just wondering how you are and what's happened since you last posted? 💐

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