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To call the police and ruin a friendship?

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Emschels · 31/12/2022 23:58

Hi all,

Happy New Year! Sorry this is a long one!

Me and my friend (28 & 29) have known each other since we were born really, as we both lived on the same council estate and our mums were friends. I have recently welcomed my first child with my partner, and she is his godmum. We do everything together - even work at the same school (although I’m on maternity at the minute).

On Boxing Day, her family always hold a little afternoon get together. Me and my partner always go and this year I took the baby. She brought her new partner (who we had met before at her house briefly earlier on in the year) who seemed to hit it off with my partner, and they were sharing drinks etc. It gets closer to my sons bedtime, and my friend asked if her and her new partner could come over to my flat and have a few drinks once I’d done the bedtime routine and got my little boy down. The night was fine, everything seemed great, nothing amiss. They left at 9.30ish, my partner then went to bed, I did the cleaning.

My boyfriend then woke up at 3am the next morning (27th) for work. On his phone, he had notifications from his HSBC app that his card had been used in three shops around our local area at just before 11pm the previous evening, as well as a hotel booking. He had also received emails from American Express letting him know that they had stopped a £57.99 transaction from a corner shop as they suspected fraudulent activity. We looked for his wallet and it was nowhere in the house; annoyed, he’s presumed he’s dropped it on the way to and from the get together and some opportunist has picked it up and used it. He’s called his bank, reported it as fraudulent and luckily they’ve refunded the money and action fraud have opened a case. Assumed the wallet would be long gone now etc but cancelled all cards and credit cards.

Later on that day, he checks his banking apps. All clear (except HSBC) apart from his barclaycard credit card (which doesn’t show pending transactions) now showing that this card was used in more shops - although some of these shops are specifically named after the area they are in (think London express for example). Two of the places are in an area of East London, which is where my friends new partner is from. For reference, we all live in South West London, about an hours journey away from him on public transport so we suspect it’s not a coincidence.

Ive told my friend that the cards were used in East London and immediately she’s on the defensive saying “No it couldn’t be him, he’d never do that,”. Fair enough, but I’ve told her that my partner will be contacting the police through 101 as these new transactions have bumped the total amount that was spent/stolen to £386 (!!). She agrees she would do the same thing.

Today she has called me and said that she has the wallet. Her partner admitted to it but said he was drunk and can’t remember and woke up with the wallet in his room. She said that her partner knows he messed up and is really sorry. Said she could never forgive him etc etc. He came, dropped off the wallet and she told him to leave. Earlier on tonight I drove to hers and knocked on the door to collect the wallet, he was in her flat. I was shocked he was there and angrily asked him why he did it, he said he didn’t know why, it wasn’t personal, he was drunk but he’s bought the wallet back and now this should be the end of it because my boyfriend ‘has been given the money back by the bank so hasn’t lost out’. At this point now I’m fuming. How dare he? I’ve said it’s not the end of it and if he can’t tell me why he did it he can explain to the police.

On the way home I got a number of WhatsApp messages from my friend asking why we were still contacting the police, and she thinks we shouldn’t do that because he’s said he’s sorry. I’m under the impression she thought that because he’d handed the wallet back, we’d miraculously thank him and not take any further action. I asked her about what she said about not forgiving him and why he was still in the flat, she said that shes stressed because she’s in the middle, can’t pick between her partner and me, even after he stole because he knows he did wrong and can’t remember anything from the night. We got into an argument after that and she’s blocked me on WhatsApp now because I refused to promise her my partner wouldn’t call the police.

My thing is that this is theft. A criminal offence. And he has taken the wallet from the house my partner shares with me and our 5 month old baby. I don’t buy his story about being too drunk to realise as well, because he was able to make a journey on a bus and 2 tube trains back to East London, as well as inputting all his personal information on to booking.com and going into several shops. Also, if he can do this to her friends and think he can get away with it - what’s next? Stealing from her family? Her?

One of her last messages to me was that if I call the police then I am throwing away her friendship because her partner (who is already on probationary license) will most likely be arrested and charged, and then she will feel ‘too awkward’ to talk to me. According to her, I’m being unreasonable because he’s handed the stuff back, my partner has been refunded from the bank, and he’s said he’s sorry, so I should just leave it there.

Im very very stoic on this but does anyone else think that I’m being unreasonable and blowing this all out of proportion?

OP posts:
GCAcademic · 01/01/2023 00:03

As the thief is someone known to you and your boyfriend, your boyfriend needs to protect himself by reporting this to the police, otherwise he may find himself in a situation where it’s deemed he’s defrauded his bank(s).

AmandaHoldensLips · 01/01/2023 00:06

Report. He's a thief and the only thing he's sorry about is getting caught. And your friend is a fool if she thinks he'll change.

Dappledapples · 01/01/2023 00:08

No, YANBU, that's inexcusable. This man spent time with you, pretended to be your friend, then robbed you.
If she can't see that, her friendship is not worth keeping.

Trudij123 · 01/01/2023 00:08

You are absolutely not being unreasonable - and I’d be stepping back from the friend until she realises what a lowlife he is. She will do - but it might take a while. When she does, she’ll need a her friends.

what a knobhead

Aquamarine1029 · 01/01/2023 00:08

Your friend is an absolute idiot and you will be if you don't report this to the police. Call them now.

Kiss this friendship goodbye. There's no helping people like your friend.

skilpadde · 01/01/2023 00:09

I'd have to agree with @GCAcademic... given that he's an acquaintance, it could easily be suspected that he conspired with your DP to defraud his banks. Your DP could find himself out of pocket, or worse. I think you have little choice but to report it.

Fraaahnces · 01/01/2023 00:10

Just do it. He will continue to do this kind of shit and she will minimize it. I bet he will be cocklodging as well.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 01/01/2023 00:11

YANBU
its your friend ruining the friendship. Maybe it would be good for her if he was recalled to prion. A bit of space for her to realise what she’s getting herself into with this bloke.

Delorestormborn · 01/01/2023 00:11

Report it! She is mad to choose him over you. She is mad to stay with someone who is a criminal. Hopefully she will see sense and dump him. Unbelievable.

B1rds · 01/01/2023 00:12

Yes I'd be worried about your dp looking somehow involved if he says nothing.

ChristineCagney11 · 01/01/2023 00:13

GCAcademic · 01/01/2023 00:03

As the thief is someone known to you and your boyfriend, your boyfriend needs to protect himself by reporting this to the police, otherwise he may find himself in a situation where it’s deemed he’s defrauded his bank(s).

^ This OP
Your partner could be charged with conspiracy
Sorry but your friendship is over, what her boyfriend did took planning and she's sticking by him.

Var57 · 01/01/2023 00:15

I wonder who the hotel booking was for, if not for your friend?

MissBattleaxe · 01/01/2023 00:16

Definitely report. He's already on probationary license and is still breaking the law and learning nothing. One day she might come back to you when she realises you were right.

CPL593H · 01/01/2023 00:16

You have to tell the police.

Scoobydoobydoobydoo0987 · 01/01/2023 00:17

I'd probably not report it myself but she also probably wouldn't be my friend anymore either.

Stopthebusplease · 01/01/2023 00:18

They think everything is OK because your partner got his money back, but the fact is this guy has now stolen from the bank, as they've had to pay out to put things right. Definitely report him, and if your friend is prepared to put a man who she's known 5 minutes, and who obviously already has a criminal record, before her long term friend, then I would be putting an end to the friendship, or at least until she sees the light and comes round to apologise.

Emschels · 01/01/2023 00:18

Thank you for the responses - I knew I wasn’t being unreasonable but I just wanted to see if anyone else shared her reasoning to see if I was just letting absolute anger cloud my judgement.

I also didn’t even know about the possibility of banks making a connection and assuming my partner could be involved! Definitely going ahead. We have a CAD number already from when we called on the 27th, so will be updating them with the new information tomorrow.

Im actually surprisingly at peace with the fact that the friendship is over - it just hurts to know that she doesn’t value my friendship over this new partner who has proven he cannot be trusted.

I also mentioned the hotel to her, she said ‘he slept by himself, he lost his keys’. Lost his keys but stole a wallet? Clever guy.

OP posts:
AllyCatTown · 01/01/2023 00:20

No one accidentally steals like that drunk or not. It’s just a bizarre excuse. Obviously he’s got priors. Your friend is sadly an idiot. Also how does she expect things to go on even if you cave to her wishes and don’t go to police? Does she think you’ll all hang out with no awkwardness. Obviously not. Even if you’d forgiven him straightaway it’d be so awkward. She’s delusional.

Wibbly1008 · 01/01/2023 00:21

Your dp will not be implicated. Report the man. He is clearly dodgy and your friend will have to find out the hard way. Sounds like he has a drug problem imo. if you don’t report it you would be committing fraud as you know the card was stolen and your bank expects you to give all details to the police to back up your claim.

Therealjudgejudy · 01/01/2023 00:22

Definitely report. He is already on licence and is still breaking the law.

He is a scum bag and your friend is choosing this criminal over your friendship herself

SugarplumFairyyy · 01/01/2023 00:22

What kind of idiot steals like that and what sort of person enables that?
They are both terrible! You just met him and this is his first impression.
And now suddenly your the bad guy?
I mean. If the friendship is over then its her loss.

ASCADHDBAME · 01/01/2023 00:26

AmandaHoldensLips · 01/01/2023 00:06

Report. He's a thief and the only thing he's sorry about is getting caught. And your friend is a fool if she thinks he'll change.

This ^

TouchBlack · 01/01/2023 00:28

I know this may not go down well...but could this have been done by both of them?

Definitely report him.

TidyDancer · 01/01/2023 00:28

You absolutely have to continue this with the police. Your DP needs to cover his own arse on this one, as previous posters have said.

If it was me, I would try to make contact with your friend and tell her you'll be ready to talk whenever she is but try not to engage in any further conversation about her thief BF.

Emmamoo89 · 01/01/2023 00:28

Definitely report. She's not a friend.