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To call the police and ruin a friendship?

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Emschels · 31/12/2022 23:58

Hi all,

Happy New Year! Sorry this is a long one!

Me and my friend (28 & 29) have known each other since we were born really, as we both lived on the same council estate and our mums were friends. I have recently welcomed my first child with my partner, and she is his godmum. We do everything together - even work at the same school (although I’m on maternity at the minute).

On Boxing Day, her family always hold a little afternoon get together. Me and my partner always go and this year I took the baby. She brought her new partner (who we had met before at her house briefly earlier on in the year) who seemed to hit it off with my partner, and they were sharing drinks etc. It gets closer to my sons bedtime, and my friend asked if her and her new partner could come over to my flat and have a few drinks once I’d done the bedtime routine and got my little boy down. The night was fine, everything seemed great, nothing amiss. They left at 9.30ish, my partner then went to bed, I did the cleaning.

My boyfriend then woke up at 3am the next morning (27th) for work. On his phone, he had notifications from his HSBC app that his card had been used in three shops around our local area at just before 11pm the previous evening, as well as a hotel booking. He had also received emails from American Express letting him know that they had stopped a £57.99 transaction from a corner shop as they suspected fraudulent activity. We looked for his wallet and it was nowhere in the house; annoyed, he’s presumed he’s dropped it on the way to and from the get together and some opportunist has picked it up and used it. He’s called his bank, reported it as fraudulent and luckily they’ve refunded the money and action fraud have opened a case. Assumed the wallet would be long gone now etc but cancelled all cards and credit cards.

Later on that day, he checks his banking apps. All clear (except HSBC) apart from his barclaycard credit card (which doesn’t show pending transactions) now showing that this card was used in more shops - although some of these shops are specifically named after the area they are in (think London express for example). Two of the places are in an area of East London, which is where my friends new partner is from. For reference, we all live in South West London, about an hours journey away from him on public transport so we suspect it’s not a coincidence.

Ive told my friend that the cards were used in East London and immediately she’s on the defensive saying “No it couldn’t be him, he’d never do that,”. Fair enough, but I’ve told her that my partner will be contacting the police through 101 as these new transactions have bumped the total amount that was spent/stolen to £386 (!!). She agrees she would do the same thing.

Today she has called me and said that she has the wallet. Her partner admitted to it but said he was drunk and can’t remember and woke up with the wallet in his room. She said that her partner knows he messed up and is really sorry. Said she could never forgive him etc etc. He came, dropped off the wallet and she told him to leave. Earlier on tonight I drove to hers and knocked on the door to collect the wallet, he was in her flat. I was shocked he was there and angrily asked him why he did it, he said he didn’t know why, it wasn’t personal, he was drunk but he’s bought the wallet back and now this should be the end of it because my boyfriend ‘has been given the money back by the bank so hasn’t lost out’. At this point now I’m fuming. How dare he? I’ve said it’s not the end of it and if he can’t tell me why he did it he can explain to the police.

On the way home I got a number of WhatsApp messages from my friend asking why we were still contacting the police, and she thinks we shouldn’t do that because he’s said he’s sorry. I’m under the impression she thought that because he’d handed the wallet back, we’d miraculously thank him and not take any further action. I asked her about what she said about not forgiving him and why he was still in the flat, she said that shes stressed because she’s in the middle, can’t pick between her partner and me, even after he stole because he knows he did wrong and can’t remember anything from the night. We got into an argument after that and she’s blocked me on WhatsApp now because I refused to promise her my partner wouldn’t call the police.

My thing is that this is theft. A criminal offence. And he has taken the wallet from the house my partner shares with me and our 5 month old baby. I don’t buy his story about being too drunk to realise as well, because he was able to make a journey on a bus and 2 tube trains back to East London, as well as inputting all his personal information on to booking.com and going into several shops. Also, if he can do this to her friends and think he can get away with it - what’s next? Stealing from her family? Her?

One of her last messages to me was that if I call the police then I am throwing away her friendship because her partner (who is already on probationary license) will most likely be arrested and charged, and then she will feel ‘too awkward’ to talk to me. According to her, I’m being unreasonable because he’s handed the stuff back, my partner has been refunded from the bank, and he’s said he’s sorry, so I should just leave it there.

Im very very stoic on this but does anyone else think that I’m being unreasonable and blowing this all out of proportion?

OP posts:
strugglingdaily · 01/01/2023 01:27

Vote to report from me also.

Tangelablue · 01/01/2023 01:27

Hes done this to ruin your friendship and to start isolating her. It's her choice to stand by him but I bet she will be living a nightmare in a few months. Report it and step back but it's up to you if you want to be there for her once she realises he's a twat.

MrsKeats · 01/01/2023 01:28

Block their numbers op so you can't get more of their rubbish thrown at you.
Your friend could likely lose her job over this. Enhanced dbs etc as others have said.
When are you getting the 400 quid back? No mention of that.
The 'lol' in those texts infuriates me.
Police all the way.

FictionalCharacter · 01/01/2023 01:30

He’s out on licence and committed another criminal offence - he’s going back inside. She’s an absolute fool for trying to defend what he did.
The whole point of being out on licence is that you’re proving that you can behave. If you put a foot wrong you go back inside. He knows that and just couldn’t resist it. He’s very bad news indeed. I hope she comes to her senses.

harrassedmumto3 · 01/01/2023 01:31

What a total scumbag. And your friend is an absolute fanny for standing by him.

Emschels · 01/01/2023 01:34

Sorry baby woke up for a feed!

Just to clarify, we are 100% reporting it, even if people thought it was unreasonable or not. Partner is now asleep so cannot report online now, and we’re assuming it’ll be quicker to get a response if we ring instead of doing the online report in morning. I’ll tell him to contact HSBC/Barclaycard with the information too.

I agree that his story doesn’t ring true to it being a drunken mistake. Before having the baby I could get myself in some right states, but never once has it occurred to me to nick someone’s wallet from their coat hanging by the front door. I also questioned him about why if he realised he had the wallet on Tuesday, why has it taken him until Saturday to tell us he’s got it - so he knew exactly what he was doing and I think it was premeditated.

Im not too sure what he’s on license for, she’s never said. Our friendship group has raised concerns about him before, but she’s not been lucky in love bless her so I think she’s so desperate for someone just to be there to spend time at her house that she’s letting it cloud her judgement. Its upsetting for me, but I can’t let that cloud my own judgement either because she is choosing to stand by someone who is prepared to steal from his partners friends and thinks he can get away with it. I wouldn’t do that, so I have to think with what I would do if I was in her situation and I’d be kicking my partner to the kerb and supporting my friend in reporting him to the police.

I have blocked them both now, after another message I got from the partner saying ‘Don’t bring the police to …. door, she lives her with (her daughters name)’. Scumbag trying to gaslight me too.

OP posts:
QueenSmartypants · 01/01/2023 01:34

Has she always been such an idiot with men?

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 01:36

Your friend is blackmailing you into not reporting. Some thieving lowlife that she’s known for two minutes is more important than her 30 year friendship. You should report as soon as you can.

Also she doesn’t sound very bright or like she has very high standards. Is she really friendship material anyway.

TouchBlack · 01/01/2023 01:37

Is there any chance she knew he nicked it, helped him spend money and stayed in the hotel?

That could be why she's standing by him; she's complicit too.

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 01:38

MrsClarkandPercy · 01/01/2023 01:00

Oh just leave it. It's not worth it.

She will work it out in the end.

I wouldn't throw the friendship away and I would want to be there for her.

My vote is leave it. Don't make it worse than it already is.

You have low standards then.

Allsnotwell · 01/01/2023 01:39

I agree she may have stayed in the hotel. Wether she knew or was in stolen money is for her to defend to the police. It’s not on you.

Don’t engage and let the police deal with it. They shouldn’t be contacting the victim of their crime.

GCAcademic · 01/01/2023 01:39

TouchBlack · 01/01/2023 01:37

Is there any chance she knew he nicked it, helped him spend money and stayed in the hotel?

That could be why she's standing by him; she's complicit too.

I’m also wondering why they were so keen to come back to your flat after the party. Was that coming from him, do you think, OP?

Mardyface · 01/01/2023 01:42

I'd report it and tell the friend that you weren't going to but you got drunk and accidentally did, but it wasn't your fault because you were drunk. By accident.

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 01:43

Mardyface · 01/01/2023 01:42

I'd report it and tell the friend that you weren't going to but you got drunk and accidentally did, but it wasn't your fault because you were drunk. By accident.

Why make up silly stories? Just report.

Bekindnotarsey · 01/01/2023 01:45

Honey theft is theft
your friend isn’t your friend if she sides with this piece of work, how many other partners has he had and stole from.

He can’t remember, bollocks! He knew his way to shops and stuff
phone the cops, do NOT be black mailed
Good Luck x

Mardyface · 01/01/2023 01:46

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 01:43

Why make up silly stories? Just report.

It was more of a reference to how her friend thinks wrongdoing can be explained by drunkenness. Not really advice per se.

NameChagaiiiin · 01/01/2023 01:47

Mardyface · 01/01/2023 01:46

It was more of a reference to how her friend thinks wrongdoing can be explained by drunkenness. Not really advice per se.

I got the sarcasm don't worry @Mardyface

Splonker · 01/01/2023 01:48

You should report it but sadly, I bet the police do bugger all about it.

TouchBlack · 01/01/2023 01:54

Mardyface · 01/01/2023 01:42

I'd report it and tell the friend that you weren't going to but you got drunk and accidentally did, but it wasn't your fault because you were drunk. By accident.

😂

AcerbicColleague · 01/01/2023 01:56

It's a bit of a shame that you had the heated conversation with your friend... would have been ideal if the police happened to "figure out" who the culprit was (rather than you telling friend you were directly reporting her new partner). I think that may have been easier for her to cope with.

It's a truly ugly situation and I would feel outraged that someone who I had welcomed into my home had stolen from me, never mind tried to dismiss it as a drunken lark.

It's very sad for you and your friend that this idiot has come between you. I think back off for now, and perhaps in time message her and tell her that you have always greatly valued her friendship and you would like to repair things with her when she is ready, but that you can never be ok with having that man in your life.

Libre55 · 01/01/2023 01:57

Report him. Who needs friends like that?

Fuzzypeachdewberry · 01/01/2023 01:58

I have had a similar experience. What a terrible start to 2023 for you . Please report this to the police , i would be worried of anymore come backs on it if they can steal and lie to you and your partner and you are in a friendship well , they are capable of so much more !!! to hell with THEM think of yourselves here !!! Hes a calculated con man and shes no better they are both as bad as each other !!! Report them !! And leave them to the toxic relationship they are both in she will be next to be stole from.
Not a friend atol i would walk away and never look back. You both sound like a lovely couple and you deserve better than those scumballs !!!
Good luck and i hope you get it sorted.

Theunamedcat · 01/01/2023 01:59

What does he mean by we can go that way too? Sounds a bit threatening?

ThisMamaNeedsSleep · 01/01/2023 02:01

Report it.
He stole from you, in your home.
He will steal from her. She will realise it eventually.

Fuzzypeachdewberry · 01/01/2023 02:01

My thoughts exactly too.
CALCULATED B@#$/D !!
Bonnie and clyde of 2023

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