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To call the police and ruin a friendship?

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Emschels · 31/12/2022 23:58

Hi all,

Happy New Year! Sorry this is a long one!

Me and my friend (28 & 29) have known each other since we were born really, as we both lived on the same council estate and our mums were friends. I have recently welcomed my first child with my partner, and she is his godmum. We do everything together - even work at the same school (although I’m on maternity at the minute).

On Boxing Day, her family always hold a little afternoon get together. Me and my partner always go and this year I took the baby. She brought her new partner (who we had met before at her house briefly earlier on in the year) who seemed to hit it off with my partner, and they were sharing drinks etc. It gets closer to my sons bedtime, and my friend asked if her and her new partner could come over to my flat and have a few drinks once I’d done the bedtime routine and got my little boy down. The night was fine, everything seemed great, nothing amiss. They left at 9.30ish, my partner then went to bed, I did the cleaning.

My boyfriend then woke up at 3am the next morning (27th) for work. On his phone, he had notifications from his HSBC app that his card had been used in three shops around our local area at just before 11pm the previous evening, as well as a hotel booking. He had also received emails from American Express letting him know that they had stopped a £57.99 transaction from a corner shop as they suspected fraudulent activity. We looked for his wallet and it was nowhere in the house; annoyed, he’s presumed he’s dropped it on the way to and from the get together and some opportunist has picked it up and used it. He’s called his bank, reported it as fraudulent and luckily they’ve refunded the money and action fraud have opened a case. Assumed the wallet would be long gone now etc but cancelled all cards and credit cards.

Later on that day, he checks his banking apps. All clear (except HSBC) apart from his barclaycard credit card (which doesn’t show pending transactions) now showing that this card was used in more shops - although some of these shops are specifically named after the area they are in (think London express for example). Two of the places are in an area of East London, which is where my friends new partner is from. For reference, we all live in South West London, about an hours journey away from him on public transport so we suspect it’s not a coincidence.

Ive told my friend that the cards were used in East London and immediately she’s on the defensive saying “No it couldn’t be him, he’d never do that,”. Fair enough, but I’ve told her that my partner will be contacting the police through 101 as these new transactions have bumped the total amount that was spent/stolen to £386 (!!). She agrees she would do the same thing.

Today she has called me and said that she has the wallet. Her partner admitted to it but said he was drunk and can’t remember and woke up with the wallet in his room. She said that her partner knows he messed up and is really sorry. Said she could never forgive him etc etc. He came, dropped off the wallet and she told him to leave. Earlier on tonight I drove to hers and knocked on the door to collect the wallet, he was in her flat. I was shocked he was there and angrily asked him why he did it, he said he didn’t know why, it wasn’t personal, he was drunk but he’s bought the wallet back and now this should be the end of it because my boyfriend ‘has been given the money back by the bank so hasn’t lost out’. At this point now I’m fuming. How dare he? I’ve said it’s not the end of it and if he can’t tell me why he did it he can explain to the police.

On the way home I got a number of WhatsApp messages from my friend asking why we were still contacting the police, and she thinks we shouldn’t do that because he’s said he’s sorry. I’m under the impression she thought that because he’d handed the wallet back, we’d miraculously thank him and not take any further action. I asked her about what she said about not forgiving him and why he was still in the flat, she said that shes stressed because she’s in the middle, can’t pick between her partner and me, even after he stole because he knows he did wrong and can’t remember anything from the night. We got into an argument after that and she’s blocked me on WhatsApp now because I refused to promise her my partner wouldn’t call the police.

My thing is that this is theft. A criminal offence. And he has taken the wallet from the house my partner shares with me and our 5 month old baby. I don’t buy his story about being too drunk to realise as well, because he was able to make a journey on a bus and 2 tube trains back to East London, as well as inputting all his personal information on to booking.com and going into several shops. Also, if he can do this to her friends and think he can get away with it - what’s next? Stealing from her family? Her?

One of her last messages to me was that if I call the police then I am throwing away her friendship because her partner (who is already on probationary license) will most likely be arrested and charged, and then she will feel ‘too awkward’ to talk to me. According to her, I’m being unreasonable because he’s handed the stuff back, my partner has been refunded from the bank, and he’s said he’s sorry, so I should just leave it there.

Im very very stoic on this but does anyone else think that I’m being unreasonable and blowing this all out of proportion?

OP posts:
Adultchildofelderlyparents · 01/01/2023 00:40

Report to the police. He will have done this before and he will do this again. She is not your friend. She's enabling him and is an accessory to his crime. She's given him your number so he can harass you ffs, friends don't behave like that. You are well rid of them!

dolor · 01/01/2023 00:40

Yeah you're going to need to report that. He's not even sorry, he'd do that again if he could.

pinkfondu · 01/01/2023 00:40

He's scum get him away from her as soon as possible. He's after saving his skin he's not learnt anything and never wiill. She's really so desperate to not be alone she will put up with this??

NRCOA · 01/01/2023 00:42

If he's on probation, he'll be going straight to prison, where he belongs.

MountainSnow · 01/01/2023 00:42

Absolutely report asap - if you have been refunded by your bank and you don’t disclose to them what you now know, you are potentially committing a separate fraud against the bank

PermanentlyinUAT · 01/01/2023 00:42

Emschels · 01/01/2023 00:33

Sorry guys I’ve got to bloody laugh.

As if the story wasn’t wild enough. She’s given the new partner my number and he’s attempted to apologise (worm his way out more like) and I’m still angry so the conversation hasn’t gone the way he’d have liked.

Obviously have blocked out his number and my partners name, but what an absolute scumbag.

I apologise for the language too but I am LIVID.

OP, another reason for reporting this to the police: this thread is bound to be picked up by the Daily Mail. I’d probably try and get this particular post ^ deleted if you can. If the Fail picks it up, you might find the thief and his friends after you. (Probably been watching too many crime dramas of late!)

My point stands however; the thread is evidence that your partner is aware of the crime that occurred, should the bank ever decide to take further action.

DonutCrossMeIEatYou · 01/01/2023 00:42

OP you are SO in the right I can’t emoji strongly enough!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

StrawberryWater · 01/01/2023 00:43

I bloody hate thieves. I would've reported to the police asap, regardless of friendship.

Soothsayer1 · 01/01/2023 00:44

he's a conman isn't he, he knows exactly what he's doing

sweetdreamtennasee · 01/01/2023 00:45

Glad you’re going ahead. At this point, police or not, the friendship is over anyway, assuming you wouldn’t want these people in your families life. Trust has been broken. :(

lunar1 · 01/01/2023 00:46

I'd ring the police and end the friendship myself after this.

chilling19 · 01/01/2023 00:46

Get your locks changed asap. Who knows what else he has lifted.

figrollmop · 01/01/2023 00:46

Shit. He's a complete wrongun on so many levels. I feel incredibly sorry for you that this has happened and also slightly sorry for your friend as she's clearly being manipulated by this prick. Still, you have no option but to cut her off unless she comes to her senses.

Shelby2010 · 01/01/2023 00:46

It wasn’t your card so it’s not your decision about calling the police. Your DP is obliged to otherwise he could be done for fraud. The only way out of it would be for scumbag to give you the amount he stole in cash so DP could refund it to the bank. Personally I would leave it to the police.

Menomenon · 01/01/2023 00:47

the way they can improve this is for him to pay back £400 and the card company to be paid back and all is OK.

Flowersinspringgrowwild · 01/01/2023 00:47

Both scum bags. She is an utter low life for treating you like this.

6poundshower · 01/01/2023 00:47

Call the police now, that last bit is a threat from him. Don't take any chances.

PrinnyPree · 01/01/2023 00:48

You are doing the right thing OP, she's the one who's chosing someone that stole from her best friend over you. If my boyfriend stole from a friend I'd be calling the cops myself like WTAF is she doing defending this guy over you and your family?! Disgusting!

Maybe him getting a conviction will give her a bloody wake up call, if she chooses him over you after this that's on her and she's not a friend worth keeping. X

Emschels · 01/01/2023 00:49

The police are aware of the theft, they just don’t know the new information that is friends new partner, but my other half will be calling tomorrow with his CAD number and letting them know.

As you can see in the images I posted, I have screenshotted the messages I received from my ‘friend’ in which she admits that her partner has the wallet and that it is currently in her possession. I’m also saving the messages from him, as initially I didn’t read his last sentence as a threat but now I can see that it probably most likely is.

She’s given him my number as she unblocked me on WhatsApp after I sent this message to ask if I’d ‘calmed down yet’, so I blocked her and blocked her number. She’s sent him to fight her battles.

OP posts:
GenderNormans · 01/01/2023 00:49

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This has been deleted by MNHQ at the request of the OP.

Fightingitoff · 01/01/2023 00:51

Why is he on probation? What’s he already done?

Catlady2021 · 01/01/2023 00:53

Your good friend of many years is choosing this guy over you? That’s crazy! How can any sane , decent person allow their new partner to steal from a friend and then make out it’s not serious?

Dont know about the police but your partner must inform the bank about what’s happened as he now knows who took his bank card. The bank may well inform the police themselves or ask your partner to inform them. Conspiracy to defraud is a serious offence.
You don’t want your partner to
go from victim of a crime to a suspect.

DelurkingLawyer · 01/01/2023 00:53

Out on licence, cosied up to your partner who he’d barely met and stole his wallet? You want nothing to do with this person, who does not seem to have committed this crime on impulse. The sooner he’s back inside the better (which he will be, very promptly, not least because he and your mate have been moronic enough to admit it all by text).

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 01/01/2023 00:55

Oh my are you teachers??

Guess you're at least jave to have DBS in place..??

I remember a teacher I knew years ago, (prob at least 25 years ago) and being interviewed as her MOTHER had moved a new (criminal) boyfriend into their home - where teacher was living....

Someone had reported this to the local authority. As a teacher she should not be seen to encourage criminals or other such narratives... not someone who should be condoning criminal behaviour by sharing her home with a someone out on license. I think she moved out quite quickly!

dapsnotplimsolls · 01/01/2023 00:55

Report and accept that the friendship might be over. Her choice.