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To call the police and ruin a friendship?

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Emschels · 31/12/2022 23:58

Hi all,

Happy New Year! Sorry this is a long one!

Me and my friend (28 & 29) have known each other since we were born really, as we both lived on the same council estate and our mums were friends. I have recently welcomed my first child with my partner, and she is his godmum. We do everything together - even work at the same school (although I’m on maternity at the minute).

On Boxing Day, her family always hold a little afternoon get together. Me and my partner always go and this year I took the baby. She brought her new partner (who we had met before at her house briefly earlier on in the year) who seemed to hit it off with my partner, and they were sharing drinks etc. It gets closer to my sons bedtime, and my friend asked if her and her new partner could come over to my flat and have a few drinks once I’d done the bedtime routine and got my little boy down. The night was fine, everything seemed great, nothing amiss. They left at 9.30ish, my partner then went to bed, I did the cleaning.

My boyfriend then woke up at 3am the next morning (27th) for work. On his phone, he had notifications from his HSBC app that his card had been used in three shops around our local area at just before 11pm the previous evening, as well as a hotel booking. He had also received emails from American Express letting him know that they had stopped a £57.99 transaction from a corner shop as they suspected fraudulent activity. We looked for his wallet and it was nowhere in the house; annoyed, he’s presumed he’s dropped it on the way to and from the get together and some opportunist has picked it up and used it. He’s called his bank, reported it as fraudulent and luckily they’ve refunded the money and action fraud have opened a case. Assumed the wallet would be long gone now etc but cancelled all cards and credit cards.

Later on that day, he checks his banking apps. All clear (except HSBC) apart from his barclaycard credit card (which doesn’t show pending transactions) now showing that this card was used in more shops - although some of these shops are specifically named after the area they are in (think London express for example). Two of the places are in an area of East London, which is where my friends new partner is from. For reference, we all live in South West London, about an hours journey away from him on public transport so we suspect it’s not a coincidence.

Ive told my friend that the cards were used in East London and immediately she’s on the defensive saying “No it couldn’t be him, he’d never do that,”. Fair enough, but I’ve told her that my partner will be contacting the police through 101 as these new transactions have bumped the total amount that was spent/stolen to £386 (!!). She agrees she would do the same thing.

Today she has called me and said that she has the wallet. Her partner admitted to it but said he was drunk and can’t remember and woke up with the wallet in his room. She said that her partner knows he messed up and is really sorry. Said she could never forgive him etc etc. He came, dropped off the wallet and she told him to leave. Earlier on tonight I drove to hers and knocked on the door to collect the wallet, he was in her flat. I was shocked he was there and angrily asked him why he did it, he said he didn’t know why, it wasn’t personal, he was drunk but he’s bought the wallet back and now this should be the end of it because my boyfriend ‘has been given the money back by the bank so hasn’t lost out’. At this point now I’m fuming. How dare he? I’ve said it’s not the end of it and if he can’t tell me why he did it he can explain to the police.

On the way home I got a number of WhatsApp messages from my friend asking why we were still contacting the police, and she thinks we shouldn’t do that because he’s said he’s sorry. I’m under the impression she thought that because he’d handed the wallet back, we’d miraculously thank him and not take any further action. I asked her about what she said about not forgiving him and why he was still in the flat, she said that shes stressed because she’s in the middle, can’t pick between her partner and me, even after he stole because he knows he did wrong and can’t remember anything from the night. We got into an argument after that and she’s blocked me on WhatsApp now because I refused to promise her my partner wouldn’t call the police.

My thing is that this is theft. A criminal offence. And he has taken the wallet from the house my partner shares with me and our 5 month old baby. I don’t buy his story about being too drunk to realise as well, because he was able to make a journey on a bus and 2 tube trains back to East London, as well as inputting all his personal information on to booking.com and going into several shops. Also, if he can do this to her friends and think he can get away with it - what’s next? Stealing from her family? Her?

One of her last messages to me was that if I call the police then I am throwing away her friendship because her partner (who is already on probationary license) will most likely be arrested and charged, and then she will feel ‘too awkward’ to talk to me. According to her, I’m being unreasonable because he’s handed the stuff back, my partner has been refunded from the bank, and he’s said he’s sorry, so I should just leave it there.

Im very very stoic on this but does anyone else think that I’m being unreasonable and blowing this all out of proportion?

OP posts:
CKL987 · 01/01/2023 00:57

The man is already on probation. I wouldn't be believing him. He was probably too drunk to realise his cover story wouldn't work, not too drunk to know what he was doing.

MrsClarkandPercy · 01/01/2023 01:00

Oh just leave it. It's not worth it.

She will work it out in the end.

I wouldn't throw the friendship away and I would want to be there for her.

My vote is leave it. Don't make it worse than it already is.

Rosiestraws · 01/01/2023 01:02

Definitely report..and can you do it soone rather than later...isn't there a way of doing it online and adding this new info to your earlier report so you don't have to wait until tomorrow?

Tamarindtree · 01/01/2023 01:02

Too many shops for it to be a drunken mistake and besides if he was really mortified he would pay back all the money he spent and not casually dismiss it as the bank reimbursing your partner!

He is a despicable creature and your friend is the one throwing the friendship away by not dumping her new boyfriend and not supporting you.

You must call the police on him.

Flowersinspringgrowwild · 01/01/2023 01:06

MrsClarkandPercy · 01/01/2023 01:00

Oh just leave it. It's not worth it.

She will work it out in the end.

I wouldn't throw the friendship away and I would want to be there for her.

My vote is leave it. Don't make it worse than it already is.

Are you the friend

sammyjoanne · 01/01/2023 01:08

He obviously were not that drunk to make a hotel booking and put your partners credit card number in. Do not engage with her, or him, and anything you do have screenshot as evidence and pass onto the police.

StrandedStarfish · 01/01/2023 01:09

You must report. I wouldnt put it past the thief to say your partner was in on it if it’s not reported

NameChagaiiiin · 01/01/2023 01:09

Var57 · 01/01/2023 00:15

I wonder who the hotel booking was for, if not for your friend?

Exactly this

murasaki · 01/01/2023 01:09

I agree you need to report re the conspiracy angle. And am sorry your friend has such bad judgement. The number of purchases shows this was firmly deliberate, I don't get how she can defend him.

NameChagaiiiin · 01/01/2023 01:10

sammyjoanne · 01/01/2023 01:08

He obviously were not that drunk to make a hotel booking and put your partners credit card number in. Do not engage with her, or him, and anything you do have screenshot as evidence and pass onto the police.

Exactly as you'd need to know/remember address details. Bit different from "drunkenly" using contactless for some tube tinnies.

Mariposa26 · 01/01/2023 01:10

MrsClarkandPercy · 01/01/2023 01:00

Oh just leave it. It's not worth it.

She will work it out in the end.

I wouldn't throw the friendship away and I would want to be there for her.

My vote is leave it. Don't make it worse than it already is.

If she leaves it, she is complicit in fraud. That is really bad advice.

CountZacular · 01/01/2023 01:12

The friendship is over regardless by her choice to stay with him. You’ll never meet as couples again. You’ll never be able to speak about him - she’ll never share anything about her personal life knowing he’s off topic. And I think she’d start distancing herself because her choice is shameful and it’s easier to just back away and not acknowledge it than brazen it out.

You are doing the right thing reporting him OP. I’d say just disengage for now and keep everything he sends (I’m 100% sure the threats will escalate because he doesn’t seem particularly bright) to share with the police. He’s absolute scum.

EmmaLouu · 01/01/2023 01:12

Let her make the decision to end the friendship- you’re actually doing her the favour. If she does it’ll just be another stupid decision in a long line of them, clearly.

CountZacular · 01/01/2023 01:13

MrsClarkandPercy · 01/01/2023 01:00

Oh just leave it. It's not worth it.

She will work it out in the end.

I wouldn't throw the friendship away and I would want to be there for her.

My vote is leave it. Don't make it worse than it already is.

OP can still be there for the friend when she dumps this idiot man. A crime was committed and OP/ her partner have an obligation to report it.

Saz12 · 01/01/2023 01:14

There’s not enough alcohol anywhere in the world that would make me nick a wallet.

Because I’m normal. I’m not perfect or in the running for a sainthood. I’m just not a total theiving bastard. If my DH stole my mates partners wallet I’d be assuming they’d had a severe mental health episode. Because no as mound of alcohol would make him do that.

MoscowMules · 01/01/2023 01:16

Well someone's getting a breech of licence and recall to custody for new year if he's on a suspended or custodial licence 🤣

Happy New Year!

What a twat.

Phone the police OP. The thief has to learn and reform, giving him a free pass won't help matters.

He's not sorry about anything, he's just sorry he got caught, and he's a brazen criminal if ever I saw one, lifted the wallet from someone's home and can be easily identified. Stupid man.

Play stupid games, win silly prizes I am afraid.

And he gets full board at his majesty's pleasure.

Wetblanket78 · 01/01/2023 01:17

Would she say the same if he stole off her mum or gran?🤔

murasaki · 01/01/2023 01:17

At the moment, its important to ensure her partner doesn't get accused of collusion to defraud the bank, so reporting needs to happen. The remaining tatters of the friendship can be considered later. The family unit needs to come first.

Saying that, I'd be devastated that such a long term friend had semi justified this.

Thedogscollar · 01/01/2023 01:18

Bollocks to this. Report to police and goodbye friend.
He knew exactly what he was doing. What a shit.

brusselspout · 01/01/2023 01:20

Wow. Scum of the earth.
100% report.

Anon778833 · 01/01/2023 01:20

No, YANBU in the slightest. Where does the thief suppose the money comes from when the bank has to reimburse customers for the actions of shady characters like himself?

As for your friend, if she is going to take the side of a morally bankrupt person like this, over yours, someone she has built a relationship with for years, then she is no friend at all and you'll be better off without her.

I would never be able to trust this man again. And I also don't buy his excuses. He's a low life.

Anon778833 · 01/01/2023 01:22

MountainSnow · 01/01/2023 00:42

Absolutely report asap - if you have been refunded by your bank and you don’t disclose to them what you now know, you are potentially committing a separate fraud against the bank

Yep, this as well.

Allsnotwell · 01/01/2023 01:23

If she leaves it, she is complicit in fraud. That is really bad advice

Yep she could get done for not reporting the crime and get a record herself and lose her job. Perhaps you want to highlight this?

PizzaEater54 · 01/01/2023 01:23

I wouldn't report myself. But if she doesn't see this as a huge red flag, then it may take until he steals from her to realise he is a thief. She may not be so lucky to get the money refunded by the bank when it happens to her.

In the meantime keep your distance from him and be ready to say 'I told you so'.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 01/01/2023 01:25

Fuck that. He’s on a probationary licence already?

She has thrown away your friendship. Not you. Report!

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