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To think toddler swearing isn’t a big deal

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Pottymouthw · 29/12/2022 14:23

My daughter recently said fuck off recently. I was videoing her and she said it in context, she is two. I tried not to react as didn’t want to make it into a bigger deal. I don’t swear around my kids, or certainly not at them.

I told her dad, sent him the video because the timing was perfect and kind of funny ( I do NOT think children swearing is okay or cute but it happens).
a whole argue started as he said he’s not impressed, I need to find out where she got it from, we recently spent time with family over Christmas. My family also don’t swear around elders or children culturally it’s not the done thing.

Her dad said he feels like someone must be talking to her like that, maybe in my family we think it’s okay but no one is his family ever swore as a child. He said I need to figure out how she learnt this, could be from literally anywhere?! I don’t think hunk it’s a big deal, she doesn’t know what the words mean and I wouldn’t encourage it? Am I really being unreasonable to think it’s not a big deal?

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Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:40

Or if not their child, they have 100%definitely sworn at some point in their life. Everyone.

PAFMO · 29/12/2022 16:41

Yep. I'd go with the 13 year old as well.
It was a lad on our street who sent me out on my trike at about 3 shouting "fuck off fuck off" up and down the road. He'd have been about 10.

Thinkbiglittleone · 29/12/2022 16:41

I have never ever heard my BF of 30 years swear

I have never heard my DH swear, he hates swearing.

Carolservicedeprived · 29/12/2022 16:42

Just read the update. Obviously it's the 13 year old sibling or one of their friends.

weewestie · 29/12/2022 16:42

I grew up in a sweary home until I was 10. Then I moved elsewhere and can genuinely say they never swore in front for us. Not even so much as "For Gods sake", never mind anything else.

As someone said, I've never sworn in front my gran, my ex boss, or my kid (until he was much older).

I find it really weird that some on here feel they can make such generalisations about the rest of us.

And no, OP, i don't think you need to bust a gut finding out where she heard it, but do make every effort to make sure she stops repeating it

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:43

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:40

I think I’ve made that clear.

you haven’t.

you we’re responding to a Pp who said that can’t imagine being able to go through life without saying “the occasional fuck”

your response?

No one can!

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:44

And whilst I do swear and occasionally in front my children

i am not so hardline as to imagine that every single person on this planet says “the occasional fuck” or indeed any swear word

tiredmama23 · 29/12/2022 16:44

Carolservicedeprived · 29/12/2022 16:40

There's a difference between overhearing an exclamation such as fuck or shit when a parent dropped a plate or stepped on Lego, and the specific insult fuck off. If you really don't think you say that in your house I would be questioning where she heard it. And no it's not funny. I'm not too bothered about swearing now my kids are secondary school age but wouldn't have been okay with a toddler swearing like that.

This!

"Fuck off" is worlds apart from "oh shit" after dropping something.

MrsEdnaWelthorpe · 29/12/2022 16:45

Pottymouthw · 29/12/2022 16:27

It’s not that I’m ignoring it, I just have answered many times that no one talks to her like that. No one responds like that to being asked to do something

But they must do, it hasn't come from her imagination, has it?

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:45

Carolservicedeprived · 29/12/2022 16:42

Just read the update. Obviously it's the 13 year old sibling or one of their friends.

So odd that the OP just throws in that she has a teenager on page 9.

The most salient point of the entire OP

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:47

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:43

you haven’t.

you we’re responding to a Pp who said that can’t imagine being able to go through life without saying “the occasional fuck”

your response?

No one can!

So what part of that wasn’t clear?

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:48

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:47

So what part of that wasn’t clear?

Ah ok, to just to be clear

you think every single person on this planet occasionally swears

gotcha

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:49

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:48

Ah ok, to just to be clear

you think every single person on this planet occasionally swears

gotcha

😊🙌

CorrodedCoffin · 29/12/2022 16:51

Honestly surprised (although this is mumsnet) at home many people thing this is the most awful thing. My grandparents used to tell me of how I was riding in the car with them at about aged 2, going through the alphabet “a is for.. etc” and I got to “f” and said “f is for f*ck”. They didn’t know where I’d picked it up from but they laughed it off. No interrogation of family or friend ensued. Swearing was discouraged, in fact to the point where I actively didn’t swear until I was in my 20’s.

Unless it’s a regular occurrence, I really wouldn’t worry about it at this stage. She could pick up and copy literally any word from anywhere, you can’t trace them all back to the source. I’m sure she will move past this teeny tiny blip.

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:51

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:49

😊🙌

I struggled to get my head around fact that someone would think every single person on this planet without exception “on occasion” swears.

That is… an interesting perspective on humans but… well, mumsnet is nothing but informative about different perspectives!!

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:52

CorrodedCoffin · 29/12/2022 16:51

Honestly surprised (although this is mumsnet) at home many people thing this is the most awful thing. My grandparents used to tell me of how I was riding in the car with them at about aged 2, going through the alphabet “a is for.. etc” and I got to “f” and said “f is for f*ck”. They didn’t know where I’d picked it up from but they laughed it off. No interrogation of family or friend ensued. Swearing was discouraged, in fact to the point where I actively didn’t swear until I was in my 20’s.

Unless it’s a regular occurrence, I really wouldn’t worry about it at this stage. She could pick up and copy literally any word from anywhere, you can’t trace them all back to the source. I’m sure she will move past this teeny tiny blip.

You said it completely out of context though.

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:52

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:51

I struggled to get my head around fact that someone would think every single person on this planet without exception “on occasion” swears.

That is… an interesting perspective on humans but… well, mumsnet is nothing but informative about different perspectives!!

Thank you. I understood this from you’re previous posts to me.

oakleaffy · 29/12/2022 16:53

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:45

So odd that the OP just throws in that she has a teenager on page 9.

The most salient point of the entire OP

I said in an earlier post s someone sounds like they have taught it to the toddler.
A 13 yr old sibling?
Likely contender.

CorrodedCoffin · 29/12/2022 16:55

@Ursuladevine You think it has context because she paired “f*ck” with “off”? She’s 2. She doesn’t know what those words mean put together. She just heard a phrase and copied it.

Kanaloa · 29/12/2022 16:55

Also watch out if she uses kids YouTube. I used to look after a little boy who was on his iPad 24/7. One day whilst I was busy sorting something I suddenly heard some really foul language. I came back into the room and found him zoned out watching Minecraft videos with quite horrible voices swearing on voiceover.

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:57

CorrodedCoffin · 29/12/2022 16:55

@Ursuladevine You think it has context because she paired “f*ck” with “off”? She’s 2. She doesn’t know what those words mean put together. She just heard a phrase and copied it.

The Op

I was videoing her and she said it in context,

So I presume she didn’t want to be filmed, or she wanted to take the outfit off or something else annoyed her for her mother to describe her saying it “in context”

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 16:58

Lenald · 29/12/2022 16:52

Thank you. I understood this from you’re previous posts to me.

No need to thank but I’ll take it!

GlitteryShinyShit · 29/12/2022 16:58

My toddler opened our front door (when we were getting ready to leave) and screamed at the top of his lungs, "go away you rat" to a person further down the road. I don't know where he got it from but I was horrified. He does know swear words but I've tried to show we don't say that (kids at school swear a lot).

My older child once sang a song titled "fuck" in the car. He was about 5 and it was melodic and terribly funny (part operatic) and it came from nowhere. We didn't laugh but silently I was dying and so glad I wasn't the one driving, had to say no we don't do that. He never did it again but we still wonder where he heard it and why he belted out a tune about it.

dcut · 29/12/2022 17:00

Most likely heard it from her sister. I used to swear all the time once I got to secondary school but managed to never swear in front of my parents.
Or perhaps she heard it if you were arguing with her Dad before you split up - maybe you thought she was asleep.
Or she's heard it on TV.
But I reckon it sounds more like a 13 year old swearing in front of her.

Ursuladevine · 29/12/2022 17:00

GlitteryShinyShit · 29/12/2022 16:58

My toddler opened our front door (when we were getting ready to leave) and screamed at the top of his lungs, "go away you rat" to a person further down the road. I don't know where he got it from but I was horrified. He does know swear words but I've tried to show we don't say that (kids at school swear a lot).

My older child once sang a song titled "fuck" in the car. He was about 5 and it was melodic and terribly funny (part operatic) and it came from nowhere. We didn't laugh but silently I was dying and so glad I wasn't the one driving, had to say no we don't do that. He never did it again but we still wonder where he heard it and why he belted out a tune about it.

Since when is “rat” a swear word 😐

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