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Ungrateful Tw@ts at Xmas

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StuffChristmas · 24/12/2022 00:51

Who can beat this for ungrateful Xmas tw@ttery?

I didn't manage to get Xmas cards sent in time, so instead sent a few close relatives last minute gifts, like flowers, bottles of wine etc. The first arrived today and I was looking forward to hearing that the bottle of champagne had been well received. Instead, my Uncle phoned my Dad to report arrival of said gift. The inference is they are really annoyed about it as they thought they had made it clear no gifts were to be exchanged between our families.

I have tried not to let on how upset I am. I remember now that no gifting had been mentioned, but honestly, why the *@$£ can't they just say thank you??? I don't want /need an Xmas present in return. They have been so kind to me over the years. Why do they have to be like this?

I had thought of dropping round to take it back, suggesting they donate to charity, pour it down the drain.... I don't even know if they will actually mention it to me!

I feel hurt and a bit stupid. Just as I was talking about this to my Dad, my cousin was Whatsapping, so I know they know.... such an unpleasant situation and I was only trying to be nice/kind/festive. I am sure there are plenty of other stories that will beat this. Tell me yours!

OP posts:
RambamThankyouMam · 24/12/2022 08:50

Reluctantadult · 24/12/2022 07:22

Ah op I feel sorry for you and I do think they could have just said thank you. We've agreed no gifts between close family this year and I've got everyone chocs and socks because I would just like everyone to have something to open. It seems too odd that I'm getting things for eg for my nana, auntie and cousin and not my own mum, sister and brother. I hope I don't make people feel guilty or embarrassed.

Why did you go against what was agreed on?

UniversalAunt · 24/12/2022 08:53

‘…saying that he can contribute it to a food bank…’

A bottle of Champagne for people who don’t have enough food to get by?

AngelinaFibres · 24/12/2022 08:56

Glitterybee · 24/12/2022 02:01

sorry op you are the twat, not them!

no gifts was agreed so why did you send one?

This with bells on. You didn't send cards, 1 doubt anybody cared. You could just have blamed it on the postal strikes " Oh I expect they'll arrive in January " by which time they will have forgotten all about your non existent cards. Sending a present when it has been agreed that nobody will is twattery in the extreme.

stbrandonsboat · 24/12/2022 08:57

We have a relative who's sent gifts when asked not to - for several years now - and it's really annoying. It's embarrassing and makes us feel guilty and the gifts are unsuitable and unwanted so are lying around adding to clutter and we have to re-home them after Christmas.

We're fed up with it tbh. Maybe next year they'll finally listen.

Cuppasoupmonster · 24/12/2022 08:57

FiveShelties · 24/12/2022 00:59

I don't think they are ungrateful at all. I would hate to receive a present at the last minute from someone who had agreed no presents.

Me too, it’s embarrassing.

AngelinaFibres · 24/12/2022 08:58

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FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 24/12/2022 09:02

You've not sent me a Christmas card either, OP.

I will happily accept champagne in its place.

Baconking · 24/12/2022 09:06

KTheGrey · 24/12/2022 07:57

I agree, @StuffChristmas - giving is a really enjoyable part of life and I think also an important way you bond with others. I am a little bit against "no gifts" for this reason. It's hard to switch off one's training of many years as well! We usually limit £ spend (compromise).

But I think your Uncle is being joyless and ungracious, rather like many people on this thread. I would.send him a (public) message saying that he can contribute it to a food bank and you will still feel happy about it. We remember we're part of a larger family at Christmas, right? 😘

I don't think foodbanks accept alcohol

Reluctantadult · 24/12/2022 09:07

@AngelinaFibres and you're not very nice calling someone you don't know a twat on a chat forum. It's made me feel a bit shit to be honest. So thanks.

DappledThings · 24/12/2022 09:08

Reluctantadult · 24/12/2022 09:07

@AngelinaFibres and you're not very nice calling someone you don't know a twat on a chat forum. It's made me feel a bit shit to be honest. So thanks.

Well it's not too late to stick to the agreement and not hand over presents to people you've agreed not to get presents too this avoiding an awkward situation entirely of your own making.

Reluctantadult · 24/12/2022 09:08

@RambamThankyouMam because its literally a pair of socks each and it didn't feel like a big deal. Based on this thread I've now checked with my siblings.

Hahahahohoho · 24/12/2022 09:08

You agreed no gifts and then you went back on it - you broke the agreement! Any idea how emotional these no gift agreements can be - everyone feels a bit bad a bit awkward - you ride it out, you learn to say thank you by send a note - picking up the phone, sending an email, a whatsapp, People who say no gifts are secretly hoping you'll decide to buy them a gift. They don't want champagne - they wanted to escape the bind of buying gifts - and you did not respect that.

@Reluctantadult you have been utterly disrespectful - they will not feel grateful for sock and the little surprise to open - maybe it's time you started to respect other people's decisions.

People have the right not to receive and buy gifts, to dismiss their wishes and think you know best is bloody rude!

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2022 09:09

I would feel very uncomfortable with that, too.

Dibbydoos · 24/12/2022 09:09

How lovely to send such a great present out!
Just let them know you sent it as a thank you for all their help, it's not a Christmas gift.

So far I haven't got a story to tell, but who knows it's only Christmas Eve!!!!

Baconking · 24/12/2022 09:10

Reluctantadult · 24/12/2022 09:08

@RambamThankyouMam because its literally a pair of socks each and it didn't feel like a big deal. Based on this thread I've now checked with my siblings.

They'll be rushing out for a token return gift today

Reluctantadult · 24/12/2022 09:11

@Hahahahohoho i know my family, you don't, this isn't the massive issue that will cause a huge rift or fight etc. But based on this thread I've just dropped them a line and they're cool with it. We've agreed secret santa next year to work for everyone.

AngelinaFibres · 24/12/2022 09:12

DappledThings · 24/12/2022 09:08

Well it's not too late to stick to the agreement and not hand over presents to people you've agreed not to get presents too this avoiding an awkward situation entirely of your own making.

This. LISTEN to people.
Everyone in your family " We're not doing presents this year".
You " Hiiiiiii here are some presents".
Put them away. Eat the chocs,put the socks in a drawer.

verystablegenius · 24/12/2022 09:12

I don’t think you need the ‘t’ after the @.

tw@ works on its own. But then maybe you need one ‘t’ for tw@tery.

Emmamoo89 · 24/12/2022 09:13

Sorry but you are in the wrong. Not them.

Newwardrobe · 24/12/2022 09:15

How does not getting round to sending cards = having enough time to send gifts?
Did you go out and buy the champagne Op or order it online, if you ordered it online then why not send a moonpig card?

AuntieMarys · 24/12/2022 09:16

Really unfair to do this to people. We never buy for adults...yet SIL messaged to say she has something for us " it's a bit tacky but I thought of you".
We haven't seen her for 18 months though she lives 20 minutes away.
We haven't responded

Hahahahohoho · 24/12/2022 09:19

KTheGrey · 24/12/2022 07:57

I agree, @StuffChristmas - giving is a really enjoyable part of life and I think also an important way you bond with others. I am a little bit against "no gifts" for this reason. It's hard to switch off one's training of many years as well! We usually limit £ spend (compromise).

But I think your Uncle is being joyless and ungracious, rather like many people on this thread. I would.send him a (public) message saying that he can contribute it to a food bank and you will still feel happy about it. We remember we're part of a larger family at Christmas, right? 😘

This is all about you and your feelings not the receiver, and maybe you need to think about that when someone requests no gifts and buying me stuff certainly does not make me feel more bonded to you.
I have everything I need and when I want something I simply buy it.

If I did not have the means to simply buy it and you bought it for me, say for example socks - you would never get the socks that I would choose for myself - your choice for be would never be as good as my choice for me and then I'd have to buy you something of equal value in return (because otherwise I'd feel bad) which you didn't really like as much either.

You know what bonds people - spending time together - having a coffee together, cooking someone dinner - doing them a favour when they are ill or too busy to think, even sending a whatsapp to check in on them - these things - giving the real gift of time and thought are genuinely appreciated not unwrapping a pair of socks.

Hahahahohoho · 24/12/2022 09:22

Baconking · 24/12/2022 09:10

They'll be rushing out for a token return gift today

Swearing under their breaths that they had the whole day planned and now they have to bloody well go shopping because someone has got no self-control.

I'd say nothing to keep the peace but I'd be furious.

StuffChristmas · 24/12/2022 09:24

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 24/12/2022 09:02

You've not sent me a Christmas card either, OP.

I will happily accept champagne in its place.

😂Sure. DM me your address and I will get one off to you right away. 🙃

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e11even · 24/12/2022 09:24

I don't understand why he called your dad to complain lol what's that all about? If I was him I would've thanked you and said however as per our agreement I don't have a gift for you. Not everything has to be an argument.

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