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To find adults that don’t swear …

257 replies

notcompletingthetodolist · 17/12/2022 21:59

Kind of odd?

I’m not sayinh you have to swear every sentence because that’s cringe, I’m just saying it’s ok to say “I’ve had a shit day today” or “fuck sake” if you’re annoyed.

I had dinner today with a friend and her friend and they spoke about a “fuck it list” but only said “f it list” … like we’re all adults who shouldn’t be offended by moderate swearing.

(And yes I understand not swearing in front of children, at work or elderly relatives)

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RishisProudMum · 18/12/2022 11:30

NoNameNowAgain · 18/12/2022 11:26

No. Because I had read it so I don’t understand why you thought I hadn’t. What are you getting at?

You must find life so confusing. My sympathies.

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 18/12/2022 11:32

My mum didn't swear until you triggered that final straw then she'd March round the house, frantically tidying and singing under her breath "oh, you motherfucking baaasssttards, oh you motherfucking baaassssttards....."

NoNameNowAgain · 18/12/2022 11:34

RishisProudMum · 18/12/2022 11:30

You must find life so confusing. My sympathies.

Well thanks, but an explanation would be more useful.

ofwarren · 18/12/2022 11:36

Krakenwakes · 17/12/2022 22:33

Swearing makes me feel scared -it’s like flashing knives and daggers. It’s completely alien to me.

Do you only ever watch children's TV and films?

nosyupnorth · 18/12/2022 11:43

Swearing or not swearing it's nothing to me, but what your friend does in saying 'f it' or minced swears like 'fluff it' do wind me up: if you don't want to swear then pick a proper alternative wordm otherwise commit to it and just say fuck.

BiscuitLover3678 · 18/12/2022 11:48

No it’s just words. Doesn’t matter which one’s you use - gives off same affect when letting off steam.

Willmafrockfit · 18/12/2022 12:17

still not sure which particulalry words we are talking about
if swearing is fuck and cunt i dont like or say them, nor do i say Stinking, but i might take that one up

if it is shit bloody bugger then i will say them - particularly when driving.

RishisProudMum · 18/12/2022 12:39

Willmafrockfit · 18/12/2022 12:17

still not sure which particulalry words we are talking about
if swearing is fuck and cunt i dont like or say them, nor do i say Stinking, but i might take that one up

if it is shit bloody bugger then i will say them - particularly when driving.

‘Stinking’ is not a swear word.

Willmafrockfit · 18/12/2022 13:25

bravo @RishisProudMum

RishisProudMum · 18/12/2022 13:27

Willmafrockfit · 18/12/2022 13:25

bravo @RishisProudMum

Bravo the English language and literally any dictionary.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 18/12/2022 13:35

If my dad heard us swear we would get a hiding - even tame words like bloody and crap. He thought it was common, the thing is, we were/are common. Delusions of grandeur. Still confuses me how swearing was seen as awful, yet hitting your kids was fine.

Anyways I sometimes use childish substitutes- I can’t help it.

RampantIvy · 18/12/2022 14:42

I think swearing is a really helpful pressure valve for dealing with stress or frustration.

But I do flinch when people swear with total disregard for others in public spaces (on the bus, in a waiting room and particularly around children). It’s rude and entitled to assume that everyone is as comfortable with it as you are.

I totally agree with you @Thepeopleversuswork
I think it is a little tone deaf to just pepper normal conversation with swear words unless the people you are with also do the same. I just think swearing during normal conversation is unnecessary.

Abitofalark · 18/12/2022 16:19

It's very strange to argue that swearing is a marker of adulthood.
It's not much of a recommendation for adulthood that people can't express a thought without going for an overused American four-letter word all the time or that adults shouldn't be offended by it.

The attitude seems typical of certain middle- or chattering-class people such as the BBC, media and politicians - mumsnet owners and many users included. There's something deliberately conscious and flaunting about it. The appeal to some women seems to be because it is something that men do and have always done and that therefore they wish to emulate. Not to swear or to use alternatives is derided as mimsy or delicate, fussy and lacking in character - unmanly, even.

Some men, in certain trades for example, have always done it more naturally and unconsciously as a part of conversation among themselves or close circles but wouldn't use it as part of more general discussion or among people whom they wouldn't want to offend. Their rules in that respect differ from the BBC and media show-off swearers who do want to offend and do disrespect anyone who doesn't like it.

FurryDandelionSeekingMissile · 18/12/2022 16:29

American?

thegreylady · 18/12/2022 18:38

I don’t think I am ‘pure’ at all. I just don’t like the idea of female genitalia being an obscenity. Those jolly swearers out there, would you encourage your young daughter to refer to her c*t rather than vulva or other term? If you wouldn’t then I think there is a touch of hypocrisy.
I make no apology for the ‘coy’ stars. I will neither say it nor write it in full and if that bothers anyone so be it.

thegreylady · 18/12/2022 18:43

My grandad said “buggering hell’s flames” to which grandma would reply “ Jim, the bairn can hear you!”
The bairn was me about 70 years ago.

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LBFseBrom · 18/12/2022 18:44

Greylady, I too hate the C word bandied about, it is vile.

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The use of..

LBFseBrom · 18/12/2022 18:47

I also agree with Brokeasabone.

NoNameNowAgain · 18/12/2022 18:48

BrokeAsABone · 18/12/2022 18:45

The use of..

Think of it as a prayer.

workiskillingme · 18/12/2022 18:52

I work with someone who used to scold everyone for swearing. She's having a very stressful time currently and I nearly fainted when she said the c word on the phone the other day

SleepingStandingUp · 18/12/2022 18:59

notcompletingthetodolist · 17/12/2022 22:20

That’s exceptionally weird that you’ve never once said a swear word. Have you lived a very sheltered life?

Maybe PP just has a wider vocabulary than you and is able to express how bad her day is without using swear words

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 18/12/2022 19:18

SleepingStandingUp · 18/12/2022 18:59

Maybe PP just has a wider vocabulary than you and is able to express how bad her day is without using swear words

Saying "I've had an effing bad day" does not indicate a wider vocabulary than "I've had a fucking bad day". Most non-swearers don't launch into some modern equivalent of golden Latin to describe their bad day 🙄

RamblingEclectic · 18/12/2022 19:21

I can see why it would stand out as odd in that situation where one person isn't and that faux version was awkward when others are swearing, but in general, I don't think it's odd. People use language differently. And really, I find excluding the elderly out of it a bit odd - I've known some who swear a lot, and plenty of younger people who have more issue with it whether out of religious beliefs or culture or personal choice.

I used to work with someone who said "sugar" and "fudge" - what's the point? It's so mimsy!
My MIL used to do this. She told me it was because she used to swear a lot in her youth, but had to curb it around her became-devout mother and then kids to get them not to swear. It became a habit, and in the decade I knew her before she died, I never heard her actually swear

I hate people seeing and hearing use the name of Jesus as a swear word. They would never do the same for Mohammed. Are Christians not worthy of the same respect?
As far as I can recall, Christians invented those swears or rather cursing by using Jesus to literally curse at others or at the environment. That wouldn't work for someone who isn't meant to be able to interceded which to my knowledge Mohammed can't.

However, I do tell my kids not to invoke deities in the house and if they do and it causes trouble, they have to deal with it, whichever one they use.

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