To think this is (yet another) bad day for women?

[Livingtothefull]

On the same day that the male perpetrator is jailed for life for the particularly brutal murder of Megan Newborough, the victims of yet another murder in Kettering are named - a nurse and her two young children. A 52-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder.

AIBU to be saddened, sickened and angered by this? Will it ever end, this catalogue of male violence against women and children?

Also - you aren't identifying men in gay relationships. Men are more often the perpetrator when the victim is male too.

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

The large majority of defendants in domestic abuse-related prosecutions in the year ending March 2020 were recorded as male (92%) and the majority of the victims recorded as female (77%, compared with compared with 16% who were male). The sex of the victim was not recorded in 7% of prosecutions. If these missing data were excluded from analysis, then it would be 82% female victims and 18% male victims (ONS, 2020C).

If society dealt with male violence everyone would be sager. Open your eyes. This isn't "poor men, it's so unfair". This is talking about an epidemic of violence that negatively affects all humans.

I wasn't talking about the charity. I was talking about the fact that your interpretation of their stats is an MRA one.
It's pretty clear what's influenced you. If you were more objective you'd see that there is overwhelming evidence men are more violent. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

If you were more objective you'd see that there is overwhelming evidence men are more violent. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

Yup, I defo can't bring myself to admit the thing I clearly stated two pages ago on this thread when I said 'I'll happily admit men commit the majority of violent crime.' 😂😂😂

You still haven’t said why women don’t use weapons though.

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It's always a bad day for women and men will never stop murdering us and raping us and gaslighting us and using us.

And there it is. Thank you for clarifying.

But then you said
Epidemic of violence my arse. Epidemic of drama morelike. 😂
It's drama to be upset that two women a week are killed by men? That some men kill their wives and children when they are hurt? That men sometimes go on murderous rampages and kill complete strangers just because they can?

@TruckerBarbie you still haven’t answered why men, who earn more than women, are wealthier than women as a whole, have more power than women, don’t set up refuges for men?

Why do you expect women to provide these?

Thought this was going to be a thread about how much women do to make Xmas happen.
But is that how it starts we are seen as inferior sex by some men. Their slaves.
I have sons and a daughter I am always telling her not to do everything whilst the boys can easily sit back. I see it as my duty to ensure they too take the load.
Education is critical but we live in a sexist culture.. which still allows women to be seen as carers objectified sexually.
Why do men rape because they can.

Yes, it may shock you to learn that it's possible for men to commit the majority of violent crime without it being 'an epidemic'.

Something that happens to 0.0003% of women can never really be called an epidemic, no matter how grievous each individual case is.

Didn't there used to be a three deletions for breaking guidelines then you're out rule? Asking from curiosity.

With regards to an epidemic of male violence against women, we see the WHO and the UN call it that, so am not sure why using this type of phrasing is so dreadful...
www.un.org/en/academic-impact/preventable-pandemic-sexual-and-gender-based-violence

its sad to think how many are getting the Little Mo treatment out there today

Violence doesn't happen to 0.0003% of women
ONS data says 7% of women experienced domestic violence in year ending March 2022

That doesn't include other types of violence

You are just making stuff up now

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/domesticabuseinenglandandwalesoverview/november2022#:~:text=The%20Crime%20Survey%20for%20England%20and%20Wales%20(CSEW)%20estimated%20that,million%20women%20and%20699%2C000%20men).

The racism angle for this is interesting as an attempt to stop women from talking about male violence. Because it's men of all races. They all, independent of race and nationality, victimise women.

Women of all races are pretty equally law abiding.

I hope TruckerBarbie gets banned.

Listening to Zara Aleena's aunt speak this week about the absolute devastation her murderer has caused by murdering Zara had me in tears. One woman's life violently and sexually ended, an entire families life destroyed. Just so a sick man can satisfy his depravity for a few minutes. Multiply that by three families in the UK every week. Multiply that by all the women and children that live in fear of their loved ones 'kicking off' every day, and especially at times like Xmas. Trucker Barbie has the cheek to come here spreading MRA 'statistics' and laughing like male violence against women is one big joke.

Wat I've learned from listening to BBC's More or Less is to always ask whether this number is actually high. And it doesn't appear to be that high, relative to the population.

According to the ONS overall in 2021 there were fewer than 10 homicides per million people, or just about 1/100,000. That's awful for that person, but not an epidemic or even that shocking. After all we know criminal behaviour exists.

The domestic homicide rate was about a fifth of the total homicide rate, so roughly 1 homicide per million people living together (I haven't delved into the data to know how many of those victims were women). That's very far from an epidemic.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2021

Oh right. Fuss about nothing.

I see Trucker Barbie has name changed.

As some of us are saying, the murders are the tip of the iceberg. And even just one murder can impact many more people than the murder victim.