To think this is (yet another) bad day for women?

[Livingtothefull]

On the same day that the male perpetrator is jailed for life for the particularly brutal murder of Megan Newborough, the victims of yet another murder in Kettering are named - a nurse and her two young children. A 52-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder.

AIBU to be saddened, sickened and angered by this? Will it ever end, this catalogue of male violence against women and children?

I am despairing too. If men just stopped raping and killing women that would be nice. Instead they're not only doing it, they're then telling us they are 'women' (when they're not) and expecting us to put them in women's prisons and rape crisis centres. As Ricky Gervais said "we didn't think we'd have to! [consider this level of gaslighting bullshit]"

What hope is there when police officers are taking gratuitous pictures of women's dead bodies killed by men?

The world is fucked and men are scum.

MRA sources being the places that say "women leaders are equally likely to start wars", "women are equally likely to commit domestic abuse", "women are violent too" and various other tropes I'm not bringing up so as not to open a can of worms.
Scratch the surface of these and it's false equivalence, weasel words and cherry picked stats to push an agenda.

It is an undeniable fact that men are more violent than women, cause more deaths and start more wars. Why can't we say that?

Go and read the link charley50 posted. Plenty of good suggestions in there.

The example of what Jeremy Clarkson said about Meghan Markle is also a good one. He should be prosecuted for inciting hatred/harassment. Instead it appears to be labelled as clickbait and ignored

I said there are more violent women than male murderers, not more violent women than violent men. So more women that assault etc than men that kill.

Obv the two acts are hugely disparate in terms of seriousness, but you can't argue that male killing is endemic but that female violence isn't when the latter is much more common than the former. That's my point.

People love to cherry pick statistics to prove their point

So you’re not counting male murderers under the heading of ‘violent’? Why not?

Why don’t women use weapons?

😂😂😂 such bullshit stats
back them up won’t you?

@TruckerBarbie how many male refuges are harbouring men to keep them safe from harm from women right now? How many women and children right now are living in refuges having fled violence and risk of murder from men? Seriously go and check these figures out and come back with your twisted view, I’m really interested how you are going to make this favourable to men

Obv the two acts are hugely disparate in terms of seriousness, but you can't argue that male killing is endemic but that female violence isn't when the latter is much more common than the former. That's my point.
Who said male killing was endemic but female violence wasn't?

What does female violence have to do with male killings?

Murder is bad. Men commit most murders.

Violence is bad. Men are far more violent than women.

Not sure all the men need you to fight their battles for them @TruckerBarbie. They seem to be doing ok on their own.

Well, that's part of the issue. Men are 30% of the victims (maybe more) but don't even have 10% of the resources. I remember a documentary where a bloke was getting beaten up and was told by the authorities "sorry, there are no services in your areas, we can't help."

@TruckerBarbie - women set up refuges themselves. With no government funding initially. Why don't men set up their own refuges if they are needed? Probably because they are not.

Most domestic abuse services support victims regardless of their gender.

This is another MRA talking point without the data to support it. Where services have been provided for men, they are often withdrawn due to lack of demand. Men don't need refuges to the same extent women do.

Before you say it, there is also no firm evidence that men under-report violence, quite the opposite. Men are more likely to report and when they do its more likely to be acted on.

Also your statistic above is for domestic abuse, not domestic violence. If you read the Karen Ingala-Smith link above, you'll see that the vast majority of victims of domestic violence are women.

The point of equity is not to provide 50% of services to men and women. Its to provide services who ever needs them, regardless of race, gender, age, disability etc.

Before you say it, there is also no firm evidence that men under-report violence, quite the opposite. Men are more likely to report and when they do its more likely to be acted on.

Recent studies have found higher numbers of male victims than usual when asking women if they've ever assaulted a male partner (as opposed to asking men).

Bit hard to back up stats when you're making them up.

Men are more likely to report and when they do its more likely to be acted on.

Not according to Mankind.

Half of male victims (49%) fail to tell anyone they are a victim of domestic abuse and are two and a half times less likely to tell anyone than female victims (19%).

www.mankind.org.uk/statistics/statistics-on-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse/

Ok, TruckerBob.

@TruckerBarbie Why don't you go start your own 'Poor Menz' thread? This is clearly about women. Why are you bringing in how unfortunate and hard done by da poor iccle menz are, (allegedly!) on a thread about WOMEN?

You can keep going on, but you won't shut us down. No man will. You can try but you won't succeed.

Frankly I couldn't give a shiny shit about the issues men have (if they actually do!) especially on a thread about WOMEN and their safety. Why do keep rattling on? Are you so narcissistic that you think people care about your vapid opinions?

If you don't want me to keep replying then maybe stop quoting my posts. 😂

I'm not trying to make this thread about men. I just said that I don't understand people who choose to make the misfortune of a small number of strangers a focal point in their own lives, to the point where they struggle with day to day life.

Apparently a woman having her own opinion is frowned upon on here. Oh the irony....

Oh fuck off @TruckerBarbie

Have a day off from being a cunt.

It's Christmas.

Maybe take the stick out of your arse and stop tantrumming that some people on the internet disagree with you. 😂

Did you ever say why women don’t use weapons to kill at the same rate as men?

That link doesn't say what you claim it does. You are doing false equivalence again.

Women also don't report abuse.

only 18% of women who had experienced partner abuse in the last 12 months reported the abuse to the police.

Read the link I posted. You've been sucked in by mens rights activists with an agenda. It's not real.

Maybe it's time to reflect on your own ideology when you're trying to paint a charity as 'mens rights activists with an agenda'.