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"Scientists Confirm Short Man Syndrome Is Real."

185 replies

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 10/12/2022 14:34

To think this is a strange finding:

www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a42175436/short-man-syndrome/

From my experience, this is not true. I have met many aggressive men short, medium height and very tall. I do not understand why men who are short are more likely to be aggressive it seems like quite a generalisation. By that logic, are short women also more aggressive.

I think "short" is also subjective. A 6 foot man can be seen as short for a 5 foot 10/11 women. A man who is 5 foot 6 is not necessarily short for a 5 foot 1 women. It is relative.

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Fleurdecerisier · 10/12/2022 14:40

If it is indeed true then I'd be inclined to think they'd be less aggressive if people were less rude and cruel about their height and stopped telling them they have short man syndrome. Toxic feedback loop innit?

Maybebabyno2 · 10/12/2022 14:41

Maybe that's what my 2 year old has 🤔

Itsabitnotcold · 10/12/2022 14:44

I worked with ALOT of men who run businesses. Small men do have what feels like a different kind of aggression. Like I've never had a big man fly off the handle at me like the short men do.

Arrogant men come in all shapes and sizes, I also know very very lovely short men. But I've only ever had short men scream at me in my own work.

Itsabitnotcold · 10/12/2022 14:45

Fleurdecerisier · 10/12/2022 14:40

If it is indeed true then I'd be inclined to think they'd be less aggressive if people were less rude and cruel about their height and stopped telling them they have short man syndrome. Toxic feedback loop innit?

Oh definitely agree with this. They think they have something to prove I think.

Scurryfunge12 · 10/12/2022 14:47

Because they are compensating for the fact they are short. People are less threatened by someone short as opposed to a big tall muscly man standing over them. It would make sense that those who are shorter will act more aggressively to prove they can match up. This doesn’t mean all short men are aggressive, but thinking of it like that makes sense, if you’ve ever heard ‘’if you can’t fight, wear a big hat.’’ Short men tend to be bullied a lot more for being inadequate.

Pictograph · 10/12/2022 14:48

Maybebabyno2 · 10/12/2022 14:41

Maybe that's what my 2 year old has 🤔

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KimberleyClark · 10/12/2022 14:50

Fleurdecerisier · 10/12/2022 14:40

If it is indeed true then I'd be inclined to think they'd be less aggressive if people were less rude and cruel about their height and stopped telling them they have short man syndrome. Toxic feedback loop innit?

Exactly this.

Fairislefandango · 10/12/2022 14:52

I think "short" is also subjective. A 6 foot man can be seen as short for a 5 foot 10/11 women. A man who is 5 foot 6 is not necessarily short for a 5 foot 1 women. It is relative.

But why would you define a man's height by the size of his female partner? Surely you define 'short' based on the typical height range of men. In that sense it is relative. A 5'4" man is short for a man, regardless of the height of his girlfriend.

I do not understand why men who are short are more likely to be aggressive it seems like quite a generalisation. By that logic, are short women also more aggressive.

Surely that's obvious though. Being short is considered a negative in men and is mocked and commented on, but not really in women. So it would be surprising if women's response to being short were the same as men's. Being teased or rejected for being short can't be fun. Not surprising some short men feel they have something to prove.

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 14:53

My brother and my Dad wouldn't have this ''syndrome''. My Dad who is only 5'6'' does think that anybody over 5'10" is extremely extremely tall. This might be a bit of denial but he's not ''aggressive''. he is a bit passive tbh. My brother is an inch taller and I haven't detected any anger from him about his height. I've moaned about my own height over the years and he just shrugged. He isn't fired up over it with so much to say.

Who did they survey? When they looked for men to survey did they start out with ''are you disatisfied with how life treats you because of your height?'

OneTC · 10/12/2022 14:56

It says in the article that the study was of both sexes and then doesn't go on to differentiate the results

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 14:59

I can also believe that for the men who are insecure there could be a toxic feedback loop compounding their insecurities and fears.

I do think people should be a less obsessed with height. It is so depressing to hear that tall people earn more on average for example.

ComtesseDeSpair · 10/12/2022 15:17

Men are socialised to see height as a desirable physical characteristic. Short men receive a persistent message - both from society at large and from individuals - that being short is undesirable, unattractive, will make it difficult to find a female partner. I don’t think it’s especially surprising that this might generate an emotional complex in many shorter men that expresses itself in anger and / or compulsion to behave in such a way that shows people that they’re to feared rather than pitied.

There’s no particular negative social connotation for short women, which is why it’s sex specific.

RitaFires · 10/12/2022 15:28

I definitely have met men with a complex about their height, it's not every shorter person but it's an area of insecurity for some. I'm 5 foot 9 and I've had many male friends who were shorter than me claim to be 5' 10".

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 10/12/2022 15:58

I think it is definitely a thing. Not that all short men have it but there are definitely some short men who feel that they have to be aggressive or bullying to make up for their perceived lack of height.

Two of the most unpleasant people I have ever had the misfortune to work with were very very short men.

Not just a bit shorter than most men, but short for an adult of either sex. Small enough to get half fare on the bus. One had a cushion in his car so he could see over the dashboard.

Neither were physically aggressive but both were unpleasant bullies who took great pleasure in upsetting other people and "taking them down a peg or two".

I have come across the physically aggressive type though. When I worked in pubs and clubs the bouncer to watch out for was always the short one with a neck circumference almost equal to his height.

Plenty of short men are lovely, but there is a type.

LikeTearsInRain · 10/12/2022 18:27

Fleurdecerisier · 10/12/2022 14:40

If it is indeed true then I'd be inclined to think they'd be less aggressive if people were less rude and cruel about their height and stopped telling them they have short man syndrome. Toxic feedback loop innit?

Yep for sure and same for bashing balding/bald guys. The joking, insults and saying they look like thugs.

CatherinedeBourgh · 10/12/2022 18:36

I think there is also something else, which is that taller men are more likely to have to learn to control themselves because the same level of aggression is perceived as more intimidating.

I've noticed it in my teens, as they grew taller and taller they became aware that others reacted to them differently and moderated their behaviour accordingly.

MelchiorsMistress · 10/12/2022 18:41

The short man stereotype is based on reality in my experience, although I have known very quiet unconfident short men too.

It might be emphasised because most of the very tall men I know make extra effort not to come across as aggressive because they are aware that their size would make it extra intimidating for others.

KimberleyClark · 10/12/2022 18:43

I’ve been shouted at by a tall man at work, obviously not all of them learn to control their behaviour.

KimberleyClark · 10/12/2022 18:44

Meant to add I am a short woman too.

girlmom21 · 10/12/2022 18:53

Maybebabyno2 · 10/12/2022 14:41

Maybe that's what my 2 year old has 🤔

🤣🤣🤣

PJHarvey · 10/12/2022 18:55

I've had two horrible bosses in my life, both aggressive bullies and generally really unpleasant to work for.

One was a very short man and one was a very tall woman.

OMG12 · 10/12/2022 18:57

Well my dad was 5 ft 6. A kinder, more gentle man you couldn’t have wished to meet. Never once I’m did he lose his temper or raise his voice. My DH is 6 ft and v similar to my Dad.

my experience is some men are aggressive, some are kind and beautiful. Many are in between and treat people how they treat them

Snufkinhastherightidea · 10/12/2022 18:58

Height is like skin colour, age and sex surely - something you cannot control and a very weird thing to be proud of. Old people, women and non-white people all have to cope with ill- treatment but we don’t say someone has angry black man syndrome.

Baconsprouts · 10/12/2022 19:00

Insecurity and a lifetime of being picked on can make someone more aggressive.

So I can quite believe these findings.

Raera · 10/12/2022 19:02

I work in a large high security men's prison. All shapes and sizes in there.