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"Scientists Confirm Short Man Syndrome Is Real."

185 replies

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 10/12/2022 14:34

To think this is a strange finding:

www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a42175436/short-man-syndrome/

From my experience, this is not true. I have met many aggressive men short, medium height and very tall. I do not understand why men who are short are more likely to be aggressive it seems like quite a generalisation. By that logic, are short women also more aggressive.

I think "short" is also subjective. A 6 foot man can be seen as short for a 5 foot 10/11 women. A man who is 5 foot 6 is not necessarily short for a 5 foot 1 women. It is relative.

OP posts:
WeAreTheHeroes · 11/12/2022 08:11

I think short man syndrome is more prevalent in younger generations where average height has gone up. Apparently the average men's height in the UK is now 5'9".

gannett · 11/12/2022 08:13

Fairislefandango · 11/12/2022 08:03

Nah, i don't think so. My DH is 5"6 and very passive. My dad is 5"7, again passive. My BIL is 5"4, passive. My stepdad 5"7, passive.

That doesn't mean it's not a real thing. Nobody's suggesting that all short men have short man syndrome are they?

Well what it shows is that being an arsehole isn't actually linked to height. When you see a short man with a temper, it's the pre-existing stereotype that makes you think "short man syndrome" (but when you see a tall man or woman with the exact same character you don't think anything of it).

Far from the only stereotype that's still perpetuated and others (Asians are good at maths, angry black women) are much more harmful but the least we can do is recognise that confirmation bias is the result of ignorance and laziness rather than anything real.

MakeItRain · 11/12/2022 08:15

Maybebabyno2 · 10/12/2022 14:41

Maybe that's what my 2 year old has 🤔

😂

LuciferRising · 11/12/2022 08:18

Wonder how racist the actual stereotype is too. Not everyone is a 6 foot white male westerner.

Changeyncchange · 11/12/2022 08:18

My oldest son had a touch of this when he was a teenager. I know he did because he has told me. Luckily he grew out of it, he is still "short" (compared to his peers and family, not really by the national average).

I can imagine that some of them don't grow out it. Like somebody said earlier its a feedback loop.

oviraptor21 · 11/12/2022 08:19

I absolutely believe the research as it's very commonly true of short men in my experience.

TheaBrandt · 11/12/2022 08:21

Dont think anyone is saying it’s an absolute rule and all short men are aggressive but can see why it might be a tendency.

My dad is quite short and used to be hot tempered (never with his family though but in our protection).

Longtalljosie · 11/12/2022 08:23

Short men can be really unpleasant to tall women - trust me, scars on my back etc. Well - scars on my legs…

ivykaty44 · 11/12/2022 08:25

Short blokes do try and prove themselves by being aggressive with tall blokes, noticed this a lot through life. I’ve witnessed a tall bloke just hold out his arm and keep the short guy from punching him. It’s ridiculous but happens, perhaphs working in hospitality I’ve witnessed it more frequently

Pythonese · 11/12/2022 08:35

Napoleon wasn’t short. He was about the average height for the time ; the Duke of Wellington was only two inches taller. Abraham Lincoln, on the other hand, was 6’4.

Bizarre things you remember from school.

FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 08:36

Why do you start so many threads about height, OP? I posted on a previous one of yours about how someone four inches taller than you are shouldn't seem short to you.

Moonmelodies · 11/12/2022 08:56

Height or length?

slowquickstep · 11/12/2022 09:01

My ex has short man syndrome, he really felt he had to prove himself at work, with women and in everyday life. The chip on his shoulder about his height was huge and made him a really nasty piece of work. It didn't matter how good he was in every area of his life he couldn't change his height and it ate away at him.

LuciferRising · 11/12/2022 09:02

And what about angry men who are not short?

jicora · 11/12/2022 09:07

There was a thread about ideal types of men a while ago. Height was discussed and I said I'd never dated, or married, anyone shorter than me. Received a PM from a man here asking if I could explain myself and discuss it further with him. A few of us received similar messages.

I'm guessing he was short.

ItchyLips · 11/12/2022 09:07

My 6'4" ex had little man syndrome. Hated anyone being taller than him (because height was all he had) and is still very aggressive, insecure and jealous.

Eleganz · 11/12/2022 09:17

Pythonese · 11/12/2022 08:35

Napoleon wasn’t short. He was about the average height for the time ; the Duke of Wellington was only two inches taller. Abraham Lincoln, on the other hand, was 6’4.

Bizarre things you remember from school.

On Napoleon indeed, the short thing was just propaganda.

The reality is that heterosexual women in our society see shorter men (as well as bald men) as generally less attractive. You just have to look at the recent dating deal-breaker thread to see just how many women said that being short or being bald (characteristics men have no control over) was an absolute deal breaker for them. I'm not going to try and demand that women change who they are attracted to, but you can surely see how that might impact someone's view of themselves and those around them?

susan12345678 · 11/12/2022 09:27

The reality is that heterosexual women in our society see shorter men (as well as bald men) as generally less attractive

And what about gay men? Do they also see shortness/baldness as unattractive in a potential partner? I suspect so

rumship · 11/12/2022 09:28

www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/forget-napoleon-taller-men-have-the-shorter-fuse-7168305.html

Using one source is confirmation bias, there is plenty of research to go either way. I'm sure OP who is continually bringing up height subjects is compensating their selfs.

I know plenty of short men who are perfectly happy with their height just as short, tall, large and thin women are happy with their sizes.

Just because you have an unconscious bias to relate any action to a feature does not make it true. Although I suppose it makes little minds feel better about their life choices.

girlmom21 · 11/12/2022 09:29

LuciferRising · 11/12/2022 08:18

Wonder how racist the actual stereotype is too. Not everyone is a 6 foot white male westerner.

I've only ever heard of little man syndrome being used in reference to white men, thinking about it

XanaduKira · 11/12/2022 09:33

Itsabitnotcold · 10/12/2022 14:44

I worked with ALOT of men who run businesses. Small men do have what feels like a different kind of aggression. Like I've never had a big man fly off the handle at me like the short men do.

Arrogant men come in all shapes and sizes, I also know very very lovely short men. But I've only ever had short men scream at me in my own work.

This is my experience also. Tall men don't seem to have a point to prove whereas some of the short men I've known, have absolutely been aggressive & it's very much felt like they're trying to demonstrate just how tough & manly they are (toxic!)

MintyFreshOne · 11/12/2022 09:35

FuckNuggets · 10/12/2022 22:18

Nah, i don't think so. My DH is 5"6 and very passive. My dad is 5"7, again passive. My BIL is 5"4, passive. My stepdad 5"7, passive.

On the other hand, myself, my mum, my sister and my 2 teen DD's are all between 4"10 and 5"3 and we've all been known to be aggressive from time to time. 😁

A lot of short women act this way, kind of cute-aggressive and it’s really annoying 😂

Thighlengthboots · 11/12/2022 09:40

I'm 5'10". Ive dated men shorter than me multiple times as I have no issue with it, never mentioned their height or anything but all I got in return were demands never to wear heels, constant comments on how tall I am for a woman, put downs etc.
Due to this, I will never date a short man ever again. I cant help my height any more than they can but I am not going to be criticized simply because it makes THEM uncomfortable to date a tall woman. I only date tall men now. I absolutely believe many short men have a massive chip on their shoulders.

Thighlengthboots · 11/12/2022 09:43

Longtalljosie · 11/12/2022 08:23

Short men can be really unpleasant to tall women - trust me, scars on my back etc. Well - scars on my legs…

This is 100% my experience too.

NewToWoo · 11/12/2022 09:49

Thighlengthboots · 11/12/2022 09:40

I'm 5'10". Ive dated men shorter than me multiple times as I have no issue with it, never mentioned their height or anything but all I got in return were demands never to wear heels, constant comments on how tall I am for a woman, put downs etc.
Due to this, I will never date a short man ever again. I cant help my height any more than they can but I am not going to be criticized simply because it makes THEM uncomfortable to date a tall woman. I only date tall men now. I absolutely believe many short men have a massive chip on their shoulders.

That's disappointing. But to be fair, short men really do have that chip knocked into their shoulder when they first start to date. Most women are so dismissive of short men, so they quickly learn they are unlikely to find a partner, however nice, kind, successful, witty, handsome, caring they are.

DS is very short and his girlfriend is a few inches taller than him. Neither of them care but I honestly prayed thanks when they met that his first experience has been a positive one where height is not an issue so he doesn't get a complex, as he was well on his way to getting one before he met her.

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