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"Scientists Confirm Short Man Syndrome Is Real."

185 replies

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 10/12/2022 14:34

To think this is a strange finding:

www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a42175436/short-man-syndrome/

From my experience, this is not true. I have met many aggressive men short, medium height and very tall. I do not understand why men who are short are more likely to be aggressive it seems like quite a generalisation. By that logic, are short women also more aggressive.

I think "short" is also subjective. A 6 foot man can be seen as short for a 5 foot 10/11 women. A man who is 5 foot 6 is not necessarily short for a 5 foot 1 women. It is relative.

OP posts:
girlmom21 · 10/12/2022 19:04

Raera · 10/12/2022 19:02

I work in a large high security men's prison. All shapes and sizes in there.

That's got absolutely no relevance to little man syndrome

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 20:04

Well I think it's interesting, the people who are committing crimes and who are charged and convicted aren't all short. I think that's a worthy observation!

Obviously some crimes are to do with fraud, theft etc and nothing to do with aggression but I think a lot of crimes are.

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 20:05

Raera · 10/12/2022 19:02

I work in a large high security men's prison. All shapes and sizes in there.

You should do an AMA!

girlmom21 · 10/12/2022 20:06

I don't think LMS has ever been seen as men being massively aggressive though - they're more the snippy, hard done by types

DrManhattan · 10/12/2022 20:06

I don't find men shorter than me attractive, its not a conscious decision
Think it's more about genetic wiring I reckon

Baconsprouts · 10/12/2022 20:29

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 20:04

Well I think it's interesting, the people who are committing crimes and who are charged and convicted aren't all short. I think that's a worthy observation!

Obviously some crimes are to do with fraud, theft etc and nothing to do with aggression but I think a lot of crimes are.

It’s not a worthy observation, being snappy and angry isn’t the same as criminal behaviour or tendencies.

Lots of crimes have nothing to do with aggression. Even murder is very rarely to do with aggression.

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 20:33

But she works in a prison and noted that not all the prisoners were short! If short man syndrome is a real thing, if short men are really more aggressive (kind of doubt this) then it is interesting to hear from somebody who works in a prison that the prisoners are all shapes and sizes. Not sure why somebody posting their observation was dismissed so quickly.

XenoBitch · 10/12/2022 20:37

I am 5ft 8 (5ft 9 in the morning). I went out with a guy for a few years who came up to my chin. He was an utter arsehole... very emotionally abusive. Convinced all women were after him. If we were in a nightclub and I went to the loo, he would tell me that he had women flocking round him because I was not there.
Said he was "almost taller than me".... um, no!
He kept making himself out to be some sort of hard nut.
In his early 20s, he had lost half of his teeth, and had a hairline of someone in their 40s. I have no idea what I saw in him or why I stayed so long. Low self esteem has a lot to answer for. He was an only child too, so his mum made him out to be some sort of gift to women.

jackshitus · 10/12/2022 20:41

In my extensive research and experience of 2 people, (father in law and husband), I have found it to be very true.

Especially in FIL. Hideous, angry little man who stands on tiptoes and puffs out his chest when he’s being a dick. I’m so glad I have decided to have nothing to do with him. Maybe he would be just as much of an arsehole if he was 6 foot though.

My husband unconsciously tries to make himself bigger when he’s angry as well - standing on the sofa etc. Has the opposite effect of making him look menacing though, I have to leave the room as I can’t keep a straight face when he does it, he reminds me of Tom Cruise jumping on Ophra’s sofa, only redder in the face and angry.

KimberleyClark · 10/12/2022 21:13

jackshitus · 10/12/2022 20:41

In my extensive research and experience of 2 people, (father in law and husband), I have found it to be very true.

Especially in FIL. Hideous, angry little man who stands on tiptoes and puffs out his chest when he’s being a dick. I’m so glad I have decided to have nothing to do with him. Maybe he would be just as much of an arsehole if he was 6 foot though.

My husband unconsciously tries to make himself bigger when he’s angry as well - standing on the sofa etc. Has the opposite effect of making him look menacing though, I have to leave the room as I can’t keep a straight face when he does it, he reminds me of Tom Cruise jumping on Ophra’s sofa, only redder in the face and angry.

Why are you still married to him?

MY DH is 5ft 7 to my 5ft 1. He’s wonderful, could not ask for a better husband.

Robekinobi · 10/12/2022 21:15

Posts like these make me feel very sad..As a short person, with a short person and short son, perhaps I'm overly sensitive (short woman syndrome!?)

However, I struggle to find how it's acceptable to openly mock short men when, like race, baldness etc, they have 0 control over it. On a daily basis, my DS is mocked about his height. It's all jokey, but comes from all angles, including teachers who eg try and stop him from going in his year group playground because he's too short to be in yr11.

He takes it on the chin and laughs about it but FFS, is it any wonder why such a syndrome exists when an individual has been made to feel inferior for much of their life.

Luckily, my DS is completely awesome and excelling in many areas, but I do despair when I read yet another post about angry short men..maybe ask yourself why??

Robekinobi · 10/12/2022 21:16

Meant to say I have a short husband in above post (also a babe and super chilled thank you!)

jackshitus · 10/12/2022 21:18

KimberleyClark · 10/12/2022 21:13

Why are you still married to him?

MY DH is 5ft 7 to my 5ft 1. He’s wonderful, could not ask for a better husband.

He’s great the vast majority of the time.

We all get angry/have arguments. We just don’t all jump on sofas when we are angrily/frustratedly trying to get out points across. It’s not big enough not to want to be married to him anymore over despite how ducking daft he looks doing it.

Thankulfully, he’s not like his arse of a dad.

Lasttraintolondon · 10/12/2022 21:20

Any other physical characteristics where we're going to judge the personality of an entire group? Penis size? Breast shape? Hair colour? Some great peer reviewed science here worthy of a red top 'newspaper'.

NewToWoo · 10/12/2022 21:20

Fleurdecerisier · 10/12/2022 14:40

If it is indeed true then I'd be inclined to think they'd be less aggressive if people were less rude and cruel about their height and stopped telling them they have short man syndrome. Toxic feedback loop innit?

Exactly this. Telling short men who show anger or pushiness that they have 'short man syndrome' is like assuming women are mensutruating if they behave in any way other than sweetness and light. It's confirmation bias with zero basis in fact.

How do we explain poor behaviour in otherly-heighted men? Medium mean man syndrome? Average arsehole syndrome? Tall tosser syndrome?

Baconsprouts · 10/12/2022 21:25

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 20:33

But she works in a prison and noted that not all the prisoners were short! If short man syndrome is a real thing, if short men are really more aggressive (kind of doubt this) then it is interesting to hear from somebody who works in a prison that the prisoners are all shapes and sizes. Not sure why somebody posting their observation was dismissed so quickly.

Because it has nothing to do with short man syndrome

Short men are more angry, not more aggressive.

Do you not understand the difference between the two?

RaRaRaspoutine · 10/12/2022 21:33

I’ve known two lovely short men (shorter than 5’4”) and multiple nasty ones. My current neighbour is shorter than me and compensates by being aggressive, racist and driving like a nutter. Me laughingly telling him he had a small willy after he racially abused me nearly made him explode on the spot. Wasn’t big or clever of me, but whatever.

GarlandsinGreece · 10/12/2022 21:43

My husband is 5’7. And he has a shaved head because he’s balding. 😁 He is far from being an arse. He’s an absolute gem of a man.

Thatiswild · 10/12/2022 22:03

I had a boss who was a very small man and an extremely unpleasant human. He was a bully, aggressive, nasty, I was really very ill in the end because of his behaviour and I am a very tall woman but that didn’t mean I wasn’t intimidated. I have a boss now who is a very small man and says that about himself and totally owns it and he is the kindest, loveliest boss I’ve had. People are different whatever their stature but social generalisation really doesn’t help - if you can stand against it that’s great but it’s hard - and I say that as someone who has hated dealing with the rude, hurtful and inappropriate comments being tall has brought me my whole life.

Patronus · 10/12/2022 22:08

As someone with a v tall partner, my experience is this is true. Short men and dogs (sorry to put in the same category) are often overtly and unnecessarily aggressive to him. Seen it with several tall male friends who discuss they feel like a ‘target’.

Theunamedcat · 10/12/2022 22:10

My ex isn't short but he is shorter than his brother and he has an even shorter fuse around his brother than his usual one (virtually non existing)

FuckNuggets · 10/12/2022 22:18

Nah, i don't think so. My DH is 5"6 and very passive. My dad is 5"7, again passive. My BIL is 5"4, passive. My stepdad 5"7, passive.

On the other hand, myself, my mum, my sister and my 2 teen DD's are all between 4"10 and 5"3 and we've all been known to be aggressive from time to time. 😁

Fairislefandango · 11/12/2022 08:03

Nah, i don't think so. My DH is 5"6 and very passive. My dad is 5"7, again passive. My BIL is 5"4, passive. My stepdad 5"7, passive.

That doesn't mean it's not a real thing. Nobody's suggesting that all short men have short man syndrome are they?

susan12345678 · 11/12/2022 08:08

The two most aggressive & arrogant men in my immediate circle are both well over 6 foot.

LuciferRising · 11/12/2022 08:10

If this stereotype is true, I guess the one about overweight people being lazy and greedy is too. Can't argue with stereotypes can we? Especially if you have first hand experience of nasty short FILs.

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